The rear deck speakers worked fine mounted one way, but not another..?!?!?! help!

ChosenWon · 10-25-2001, 05:13 AM

I bought some cheapy's off ebay, (I have actually been really happy with them) for the rear deck. I have them hooked up through the factory wires. I dropped them down through the holes and screwed 'em down. hooked 'em up. They sounded great. I was actually impressed with the sound quality.

But the diameter on the covers that came with them don't cover up the factory mounting holes from the OEM deck grills. So.... I disconnect the the speakers, and remount them to where I put them inside the trunk and screwed upwards to screw them/mount them in place. I re-attached the wires exactly like they were before. but no sound.

what the heck did I do wrong? Any guess's, speculation, or help would be greatly appreciated.

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Mike

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tcs007 · 10-25-2001, 04:36 PM

I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps in an overzealous moment you accidently ripped one or both of the tinsel leads off of the wiring tabs.
(Tinsel leads are the wires that go from the wiring tabs to the voicecoil.)
Other than that, I don't know.
Did you adjust the fader all the way to the front by chance?
TTFN

ChosenWon · 10-25-2001, 07:17 PM

Thanks for responding tcs007,

I checked those wires as you suggested and they seem to be ok.

fader? actually I have the fader heavily favored to the rear as it is, as that is where the subs are hooked up, and they work pretty good.

The weird part is that when I power on the system I hear a very slight pop out of them. It is so light that I hesitate to use the word "pop" in fact.

Sunrise City Rider · 10-25-2001, 08:08 PM

Not enough room for the speaker to move... A speaker is a piston and needs to expand and contract to create sound. And those speakers are really inferior to Walmart Pioneers...

Zee

tcs007 · 10-25-2001, 09:52 PM

I thought of that too, SCR, but the "mid" and "tweeter" would still produce sound.
Maybe the wires are touching some metal and grounding out. It's hard to tell without seeing the car.
CW- Take the speakers back out (PITA, I know) and see if they make any noise when they are just sitting in your hand. They will sound like crap, but if they aren't working, you know that it may be a more serious problem, like maybe they somehow got torched. (but that still wouldn't explain why the mid and tweet don't work.The mid and the tweet will have seperate voice coils)
I don't know what else to tell you.

ChosenWon · 10-25-2001, 10:17 PM

That is what I thought too, but the wires are protected and are awar from the body as far as grounding it out. I have a spare polk audio speaker, and I touched the wires up to the leads on the speakers and i got no sound out of it either.....

Is it possible to fry the regualr speaker outputs but not the RCA jacks?

janikphoto · 10-26-2001, 12:54 AM

Yes, because a long time ago I fried the amp in my head unit and not the rca outs. By the way, I am not a fan of anything pyramid, but if you like them, well as long as you're happy. It has to be a wiring or head unit prob if you have tried other spkrs on those leads. If several different spkrs don't play on those wires then it's not the spkrs prob. One final test is to hook up the wires from your home stereo for a moment to the pyramids and see if they play. I'm sure they will. Next, chech the connections at the back of the radio and double check your fade and balance. By the way, if you need a bass boost by fading to the rear, you should switch your front spkrs to the rear output of your radio and the rear spkrs to the front output. This way you can still have bass boost and your sound will still be coming from infront of you. I HATE when I get in a car and it sounds like N'SYNC is in the back seat. They need to be up front where we have a better chance of running them over!!!

CosmoTheCat · 10-26-2001, 12:50 PM

Quote:

I HATE when I get in a car and it sounds like N'SYNC is in the back seat.

AAHAHAHAHA. Too funny.

still chuckling

Anyway... Chosenwon, it's entirely possible to fry the inboard amp. I (in my stupid youth) hooked two different home stereos to the same speakers and cranked one up. Well..... a stinky cloud of smoke later the weaker of the two no longer worked. Fortunately I'm fearless with electronics so I went to a repair shop and bought the replacement chip and soldiered it in and all was well. Saved me $100 repair or $150 replacement. I think the chip was all of $15.

10-25-2001, 05:13 AM	#1
ChosenWon Scooby Specialist Member#: 2236 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Red Sox Nation w/ y2k4door Vehicle: 2000 Audi S4 silver/rally dirt brown	The rear deck speakers worked fine mounted one way, but not another..?!?!?! help! I bought some cheapy's off ebay, (I have actually been really happy with them) for the rear deck. I have them hooked up through the factory wires. I dropped them down through the holes and screwed 'em down. hooked 'em up. They sounded great. I was actually impressed with the sound quality. But the diameter on the covers that came with them don't cover up the factory mounting holes from the OEM deck grills. So.... I disconnect the the speakers, and remount them to where I put them inside the trunk and screwed upwards to screw them/mount them in place. I re-attached the wires exactly like they were before. but no sound. what the heck did I do wrong? Any guess's, speculation, or help would be greatly appreciated. The actual auction link so you can see stats and such: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...ndexURL=0&rd=1 Thanks, Mike * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

10-25-2001, 08:08 PM	#4
Sunrise City Rider Scooby Specialist Member#: 1503 Join Date: May 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Sunrise, FL, USA Vehicle: 2000 Impreza W"RS"X Blue Ridge Pearl	Maybe... Not enough room for the speaker to move... A speaker is a piston and needs to expand and contract to create sound. And those speakers are really inferior to Walmart Pioneers... Zee

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10-25-2001, 04:36 PM	#2
tcs007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 4103 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Madtown Vehicle: 2003 WRX Wagon Reddish	I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps in an overzealous moment you accidently ripped one or both of the tinsel leads off of the wiring tabs. (Tinsel leads are the wires that go from the wiring tabs to the voicecoil.) Other than that, I don't know. Did you adjust the fader all the way to the front by chance? TTFN

10-25-2001, 07:17 PM	#3
ChosenWon Scooby Specialist Member#: 2236 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Red Sox Nation w/ y2k4door Vehicle: 2000 Audi S4 silver/rally dirt brown	Thanks for responding tcs007, I checked those wires as you suggested and they seem to be ok. fader? actually I have the fader heavily favored to the rear as it is, as that is where the subs are hooked up, and they work pretty good. The weird part is that when I power on the system I hear a very slight pop out of them. It is so light that I hesitate to use the word "pop" in fact.

10-25-2001, 09:52 PM	#5
tcs007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 4103 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Madtown Vehicle: 2003 WRX Wagon Reddish	I thought of that too, SCR, but the "mid" and "tweeter" would still produce sound. Maybe the wires are touching some metal and grounding out. It's hard to tell without seeing the car. CW- Take the speakers back out (PITA, I know) and see if they make any noise when they are just sitting in your hand. They will sound like crap, but if they aren't working, you know that it may be a more serious problem, like maybe they somehow got torched. (but that still wouldn't explain why the mid and tweet don't work.The mid and the tweet will have seperate voice coils) I don't know what else to tell you.

10-25-2001, 10:17 PM	#6
ChosenWon Scooby Specialist Member#: 2236 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Red Sox Nation w/ y2k4door Vehicle: 2000 Audi S4 silver/rally dirt brown	That is what I thought too, but the wires are protected and are awar from the body as far as grounding it out. I have a spare polk audio speaker, and I touched the wires up to the leads on the speakers and i got no sound out of it either..... Is it possible to fry the regualr speaker outputs but not the RCA jacks?

10-26-2001, 12:54 AM	#7
janikphoto Scooby Specialist Member#: 10471 Join Date: Sep 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Dallas, TX Vehicle: 2000 BMW Z3 sold Outback & ForesterXT	Yes, because a long time ago I fried the amp in my head unit and not the rca outs. By the way, I am not a fan of anything pyramid, but if you like them, well as long as you're happy. It has to be a wiring or head unit prob if you have tried other spkrs on those leads. If several different spkrs don't play on those wires then it's not the spkrs prob. One final test is to hook up the wires from your home stereo for a moment to the pyramids and see if they play. I'm sure they will. Next, chech the connections at the back of the radio and double check your fade and balance. By the way, if you need a bass boost by fading to the rear, you should switch your front spkrs to the rear output of your radio and the rear spkrs to the front output. This way you can still have bass boost and your sound will still be coming from infront of you. I HATE when I get in a car and it sounds like N'SYNC is in the back seat. They need to be up front where we have a better chance of running them over!!!