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Old 08-11-2006, 10:42 AM   #1
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it was cruise night at e-town, one free run on the 1/4 mile. it was my first time where my car acutally ran properly, they seem low to me, im not familar with the breakdowns, whatd i do wrong here? i lauhnced at like 3500, and i thoyght my shifting was good, no slipping or anything.

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im not highly modded. 04 wrx, cobb stage 2. fmic. i thounhgt id be in the 13s.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:48 AM   #2
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Chop 7 tenths off the 60' time and you would be.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:59 AM   #3
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was it just a bad launch/reaction time then?
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:49 AM   #4
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reaction time has nothing to do w/ it. a 2.5 60ft on the other hand....
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:39 PM   #5
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needs a more agressive launching technique
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:44 PM   #6
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how hard do you guys launch at?
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:51 PM   #7
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i know when i first started launch is what i would do is get my revs up and hold it at like 3,500 and then i would slip out the clutch and hold the same throttle position and then when i felt the car bog down a bit i would then floor it. Then i started holding my revs up and then floor it and slip the clutch and it made a big difference in my launch
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:03 PM   #8
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Your revs need to be up over 5k. I hold there and then on the last yellow mash the throttle and lift foot off clutch (ie dont drop it, just a quick motion).
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:10 PM   #9
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I would say you should definately be close to low 13's all day, seeing as I went 14.3 bone stock. I skipped stage 2 so I don't have times for that but way back when my vf34, fmic, etc went 12.7's easily. I guess there are a couple things wrong with your run. Your launching the car way to low, tach it up to about 5 and let it rip. If you do that good then you should get your 60' to about 1.7-1.8ish and therefore your 1.4 times will be much better. But hey, don't sweat it, it takes practice and this 90 degree weather sure isn't helping you out so maybe next time.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:39 PM   #10
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yea, nowhere near 5k whilst launching
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:27 PM   #11
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yea, nowhere near 5k whilst launching
huh?

What you mean?
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:31 PM   #12
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i bet it was a real bad bog on the launch. i bet it has a mph or 2 out of it yet.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:48 PM   #13
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bounce rev off 4k-5k.... as the rpms are on the way up at like 4500 rpm, feather the clutch out fast...but don't dump it


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Old 08-11-2006, 05:00 PM   #14
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^I do the same thing, except i keep bouncing the throttle from 5K-5.5K, then let out the clutch REALLY fast, not side step, but almost as fast as you can take yuor foot off the clutch.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:07 AM   #15
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i meant, when i was lauhncing, it was nowhere near 5k..more like 3
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Old 08-12-2006, 01:09 AM   #16
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Thats the problem. I launch around 5k and have 1.7 60fts
Here is my time slip when my car was 2 weeks old, bone stock (right lane)
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Old 08-12-2006, 06:39 AM   #17
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it was cruise night at e-town, one free run on the 1/4 mile. it was my first time where my car acutally ran properly, they seem low to me, im not familar with the breakdowns, whatd i do wrong here? i lauhnced at like 3500, and i thoyght my shifting was good, no slipping or anything.

RT- .831
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1/8-9.726
mph-77.21
1000-12.455
1/4-14.773
mph-97.88

im not highly modded. 04 wrx, cobb stage 2. fmic. i thounhgt id be in the 13s.
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Thats the problem. I launch around 5k and have 1.7 60fts
Here is my time slip when my car was 2 weeks old, bone stock (right lane)
Are you serious? Your 60' is 2.04 on that timeslip! And your 1/8 mile time is barely better and your speed is slower and than this guys. And you have a 2.5L! Maybe you were just trying to say you have improved your driving since then, but why say you have 1.7 sec 60' and post a slip with over a 2.0?
Ted your FMIC may be a hinderance. I dont think the td04 is big enough to flow the proper air for a front mount. But none the less your 60' time is horrible, easily over 0.5 seconds slower than most times and up to 0.8-0.9 seconds slower than excellent times. up the rpm on your launch and blip the throttle to build boost, dont just hold the pedal down so your rpm are 5k. When you blip the throttle you will build a little boost and get to 0-5psi so you arent launching at -14.7psi. its all in the 0-60' time and 1-2 shift. you get those down, you are golden.

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Old 08-12-2006, 08:29 AM   #18
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with a 97 trap you should be running 13's.......i ran 14.4 at 95 stock, and that was only with a 1.9 sixt foot
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:26 AM   #19
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Are you serious? Your 60' is 2.04 on that timeslip! And your 1/8 mile time is barely better and your speed is slower and than this guys. And you have a 2.5L! Maybe you were just trying to say you have improved your driving since then, but why say you have 1.7 sec 60' and post a slip with over a 2.0?
Jeez relax. I was just showing that my 1/8 mile was better on my stock car 1st time at the track. Here is my 1.79 60ft time slip. I have some 1.76's also but I'm at work and I dont have the pics uploaded. Also a 2.5L and a 2.0L at Stage 2 are just about the same in the 1/8th.
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:05 AM   #20
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It's your launch definetly...i just ran the same setup minus the frontmount last night and pulled 1.9 60ft's and 5.7 330's.....my 1/4 mile times were 13.7-.8 ... work on the launch. I feathered the throttle around 4500-5000rpm and then slipped it out not to fast but fast enough. I still think i have a little more left in my runs to. I believe with my setup i can get 13.5 at 100mph... i was trapping 98 last night. Just practice
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:12 PM   #21
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i know you guys will hate me, but with a intake and short shifter (gfb bov 50/50) i ran a 1.89 sixty foot and a 14.0 1/4...i've only seen a few guys do 13.9 with very little mods(like me, just an intake or a catback exhaust run 14.0)

it just takes practice, i had a hell of an easier time being able to launch the wrx than the STi, you don't even have to worry about wheel spin.....
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i know you guys will hate me, but with a intake and short shifter (gfb bov 50/50) i ran a 1.89 sixty foot and a 14.0 1/4...i've only seen a few guys do 13.9 with very little mods(like me, just an intake or a catback exhaust run 14.0)

it just takes practice, i had a hell of an easier time being able to launch the wrx than the STi, you don't even have to worry about wheel spin.....
so since an intake does nothing at all for a WRX unless tuned with supporting mods...and a exhaust will barely do much. your saying you ran a 14.0 in a stock WRX or stock STI? i can see that in a stock STI...but not a stock WRX

wheel spin?..... you shouldn't have to worry much about that even in a STI if you know how to launch it right.
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so since an intake does nothing at all for a WRX unless tuned with supporting mods...and a exhaust will barely do much. your saying you ran a 14.0 in a stock WRX or stock STI? i can see that in a stock STI...but not a stock WRX

wheel spin?..... you shouldn't have to worry much about that even in a STI if you know how to launch it right.

haha, sorry buddy you are wrong on almost all aspects you have stated...


ofcoarse an intake will help you, don't believe everyones b/s, our adaptive ecu will learn that a different air intake system is being used and it will adjust for it. So those who think an intake won't help without a tune, or an exhuast won't help without a tune are sorely mistaken.


i ran a 14.0 1/4 mile in a 03 WRX WITH A COLD AIR INTAKE

then i bought an STi first time at the track in my STi i ran a crappy 13.7 but it was hot and humid and i didn't give the car time to cool down


do some more reading, people have run 13.9 in bone stock wrx's, it's all about the driving...as well, people have run 12.9 in a stock STi

as for talking about wheel spin...i am protuned with a tbe, i put down 255/279 on gruppe-s's heartbreaker dyno

i do have wheel spin to think about
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Old 08-12-2006, 06:47 PM   #24
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Where is v6 to tell his mbc and home made yada story..
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it was cruise night at e-town, one free run on the 1/4 mile. it was my first time where my car acutally ran properly, they seem low to me, im not familar with the breakdowns, whatd i do wrong here? i lauhnced at like 3500, and i thoyght my shifting was good, no slipping or anything.

RT- .831
60'-2.554
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1/8-9.726
mph-77.21
1000-12.455
1/4-14.773
mph-97.88

im not highly modded. 04 wrx, cobb stage 2. fmic. i thounhgt id be in the 13s.
the 60lft seems a bit bad...but just so u know with FMIC, u are probably making more power , but the throttle respones is alot slower(my own experience) , so maybe TGV port and Det.? btw, u should be able to launch at higher RPM no problem.. try 4500 -5500 next time
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