EJ22 Q's NEED HELP N/A GURU'S

Guerice · 08-12-2006, 01:36 PM

Well i blew my 99 2.2L (phase 2 i think), so i bought an 97 EJ22 from a wrecked impreza. I tought they would have been the same motor, but when i received the motor, it didnt have the same valve cover on it.

So my 99 one is pulled out and i'm stuck there. Will the intake and wiring from my 99 fit on the 97 one?

I know i'm losing like 10 hp by going from phase 2 to phase 1, but i need my car to run....

Any help is appreciated.
I'm taking a rain break since i'm doing this in the street in front of my house

Thanks

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Guerice · 08-12-2006, 02:31 PM

k well it stoped raining for a little bit and i went to try to exchange the intakes from both engines and........... they dont fit. Just my luck

The 97 intake has alot of stuff that i dont have on my 99, so only changing the wiring from the other doesnt work.

illegal2.2 · 08-12-2006, 05:30 PM

i thought phaseII started 97+
but another route is swaping blocks

lookitsawagon · 08-12-2006, 06:06 PM

Phase II started in '99-- if they look different as you say, then you probably had a Phase II block in your Impreza (there was some overlap that year).

Bummer that it won't directly swap... what blew on your 2.2? Can you cannibalize parts from the '97 to fix your motor?

Rally_wgn · 08-12-2006, 09:39 PM

Hmm...

Storm · 08-12-2006, 10:44 PM

Different valve covers and the intake manifold won't fit?

Check to make sure they didn't give you an EJ25....

Or maybe someone put Ej25 SOHC heads on an EJ22 block and they shipped it out not looking further.....

Jay

Guerice · 08-12-2006, 11:43 PM

The engine was out of a 97 impreza hit in the rear, so it's an EJ22 for sure. I toasted the bearings in one of the idler puleys of the timing belt at 140km/h, one head is good and the other probly has a few bent valves. It runned after i timed it back but REALLY ruff and had a clapping noise in the same head.

All Wheel Driven · 08-13-2006, 12:17 AM

Your problem is deeper than that. I also have a 99 EJ22 Phase II (some came out in 1998, mostly in legacy's) and the problem is: the wiring is incompatable without canabalizing both harnesses, and getting an aftermarket computer to sort out all the remaining conflicts (of which there are a lot). It can be further complicated by the fact that some early phase II engines are OBD I and others are OBD II. If they are different OBD generations, you relly have a problem (this is all from personal experiance by the way.) I ended up just canabilizing what I could (restrict this to hard ware only, not electrics, and make SURE they are identical before commiting.) and sourcing out for what I couldn't (this may mean some new and fun experiance with japanese import parts is headed your way. I got lucky and didn't have to do that.) Tell me more specifics on your problem and I might be able to steer you away from cost and frustration.

Guerice · 08-13-2006, 08:01 AM

Well an idler pulley for the timing belt came out of the front of the engine. The right head read 225psi on both pistons, but the other one read around 100. I redid the timing twice and it still runs like a sewing machine.

I'm going out now to pull the bad head out to see whats wrong with it.

Guerice · 08-13-2006, 10:57 AM

Took the bad head out this morning to find 2 bent valves. Why is there notches on the pistons if the valves can still hit the piston. Or is it normal of having 2 notches on the piston for each valves or did i f*^&up my pistons too?

Thanks to every1 whos is helping me in my moment of despair

Storm · 08-13-2006, 11:20 PM

PMd you about the pistons.

Jay Storm

08-12-2006, 01:36 PM	#1
Guerice Scooby Newbie Member#: 51519 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Moncton, NB Vehicle: 2000 SRP GF AKA Lilwgn	EJ22 Q's NEED HELP N/A GURU'S Well i blew my 99 2.2L (phase 2 i think), so i bought an 97 EJ22 from a wrecked impreza. I tought they would have been the same motor, but when i received the motor, it didnt have the same valve cover on it. So my 99 one is pulled out and i'm stuck there. Will the intake and wiring from my 99 fit on the 97 one? I know i'm losing like 10 hp by going from phase 2 to phase 1, but i need my car to run.... Any help is appreciated. I'm taking a rain break since i'm doing this in the street in front of my house Thanks * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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08-12-2006, 02:31 PM	#2
Guerice Scooby Newbie Member#: 51519 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Moncton, NB Vehicle: 2000 SRP GF AKA Lilwgn	k well it stoped raining for a little bit and i went to try to exchange the intakes from both engines and........... they dont fit. Just my luck The 97 intake has alot of stuff that i dont have on my 99, so only changing the wiring from the other doesnt work.

08-12-2006, 05:30 PM	#3
illegal2.2 Scooby Specialist Member#: 58329 Join Date: Mar 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: MN Vehicle: 97 Legacy GT Rio Red	i thought phaseII started 97+ but another route is swaping blocks

08-12-2006, 06:06 PM	#4
lookitsawagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 51450 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Issaquah, Wa Vehicle: 2004 FXT	Phase II started in '99-- if they look different as you say, then you probably had a Phase II block in your Impreza (there was some overlap that year). Bummer that it won't directly swap... what blew on your 2.2? Can you cannibalize parts from the '97 to fix your motor?

08-12-2006, 09:39 PM	#5
Rally_wgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 62629 Join Date: May 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Richmond,VA Vehicle: 1996 OBS in Green 2.5 N/A w/ full exhaust	Hmm...

08-12-2006, 10:44 PM	#6
Storm Scooby Guru Member#: 5218 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: SAUL'S Motorsports Vehicle: 96L Most Over- Developed Beater	Different valve covers and the intake manifold won't fit? Check to make sure they didn't give you an EJ25.... Or maybe someone put Ej25 SOHC heads on an EJ22 block and they shipped it out not looking further..... Jay

08-12-2006, 11:43 PM	#7
Guerice Scooby Newbie Member#: 51519 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Moncton, NB Vehicle: 2000 SRP GF AKA Lilwgn	The engine was out of a 97 impreza hit in the rear, so it's an EJ22 for sure. I toasted the bearings in one of the idler puleys of the timing belt at 140km/h, one head is good and the other probly has a few bent valves. It runned after i timed it back but REALLY ruff and had a clapping noise in the same head.

08-13-2006, 12:17 AM	#8
All Wheel Driven Scooby Newbie Member#: 122875 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Vehicle: 1999 Impreza L Wagon Silver	Your problem is deeper than that. I also have a 99 EJ22 Phase II (some came out in 1998, mostly in legacy's) and the problem is: the wiring is incompatable without canabalizing both harnesses, and getting an aftermarket computer to sort out all the remaining conflicts (of which there are a lot). It can be further complicated by the fact that some early phase II engines are OBD I and others are OBD II. If they are different OBD generations, you relly have a problem (this is all from personal experiance by the way.) I ended up just canabilizing what I could (restrict this to hard ware only, not electrics, and make SURE they are identical before commiting.) and sourcing out for what I couldn't (this may mean some new and fun experiance with japanese import parts is headed your way. I got lucky and didn't have to do that.) Tell me more specifics on your problem and I might be able to steer you away from cost and frustration.

08-13-2006, 08:01 AM	#9
Guerice Scooby Newbie Member#: 51519 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Moncton, NB Vehicle: 2000 SRP GF AKA Lilwgn	Well an idler pulley for the timing belt came out of the front of the engine. The right head read 225psi on both pistons, but the other one read around 100. I redid the timing twice and it still runs like a sewing machine. I'm going out now to pull the bad head out to see whats wrong with it.

08-13-2006, 10:57 AM	#10
Guerice Scooby Newbie Member#: 51519 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Moncton, NB Vehicle: 2000 SRP GF AKA Lilwgn	Took the bad head out this morning to find 2 bent valves. Why is there notches on the pistons if the valves can still hit the piston. Or is it normal of having 2 notches on the piston for each valves or did i f*^&up my pistons too? Thanks to every1 whos is helping me in my moment of despair

08-13-2006, 11:20 PM	#11
Storm Scooby Guru Member#: 5218 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: SAUL'S Motorsports Vehicle: 96L Most Over- Developed Beater	PMd you about the pistons. Jay Storm