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Old 04-17-2007, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default help with my V-mount

im doing a v mount sometime soon. and i can use all the help i can find. if anyones done one before and has any advice thatd be great

my plans so far:

alchemy SR radiator
dual electric fans
small intercooler 21x6x2.5
URAS hood vent

measure
-intercooler/rad dimensions
-bracket dimensions
-clearence issues?

welding
-brackets
-endtanks
-pipes
-BOV flange
-boost solinoid nipple
-intake pipe (BPV hose inlet)
-DUCTING* must be flush. bolt on. thin sheet metal/aluminum

misc
-rad hoses
-coolant
-BPV hose
-misc vacuum hose (5')

heres my awesome MS paint drawing of the ducting path



this is what im wanting to have as a final project, but i wont cut into the rad support at all




ducting will split the air in half then small ducting to split each half into half again.
do i need to pay attention to ducting into the hood vent? or will it be fine?
can anyone recommend a good welder? possibly someone whos done these before.

it doesnt seem to difficult, but i might be wrong... hopefully not tho


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Greg
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:57 PM   #2
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Repost from a local forums where I am from.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:59 PM   #3
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First a bit about me.
My name is Ryan and I love drifting!

I guess thats all you need to know.

Here is what is in the works:
-VMOUNT setup
-Redo oil cooler setup
-redo under-dash portion of custom chassis harness
-new PS setup including cooler all stainless lines
-pull out damage from hitting K-Rail at Pro/Am
-repaint

the car, the machine, THE PRESIDENT

NASCAR baby!

Well it no longer look like that. Bumper destroyed by jumping repeatedly, rear end is missing 6" thanks to said wall, fenders are junk thanks to Steven and my hood is ****ed thanks to Lance! hahaa all this happened out in Laughlin, Nevada for the first ever Formula D National Amatuer Drifting comp!

So first on my list is building a proper VMOUNT setup.
I purchased a C&R VISTEON Radiator from a NASCAR team on ebay, and a cheap intercooler that fit my specs. They were $215 shipped, each.

I started by hacking out the upper and lower core supports, and sectioning a small part of the frame rail to fit the massive radiator. Then I built this


Its 1" square tubing. I bent it at school and then started building in my garage. It connects as so:


The front of the bar sits right under the front lip of my bumper and will act as a basher for hay bails, lower mount for radiator, TC brackets mount, and will hold the skid plate and ducting.








The top portion will be the mount for the intercooler.

I just started welding, both MIG and TIG about two months ago (so I don't care if you can weld better than me or if some of my welds look like ****!) ... I took a couple welding classes at a local tech school and its been badass... they have a bender with all the dies, 6 foot box and pan brake, bridgeport mill and on and on.

Next I modified my intercooler. I had my boy machine me some mounts for the IC and Rad. I also bent up some mounts at school.


My aluminum welding is oming along - at first it was hard as ****, now I can do it just fine, it just isn't pretty!



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Old 04-17-2007, 09:59 PM   #4
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So the intercooler actually acts the mount for the top of the radiator via the three tabs.

Here is the radiators top mount.

after this pic I tweaked the middle tab to line up better.


IC mount is finished and in this pic I am fitting up the lower rad mount, which mounts to the bash bar. I just bent up some 10awg sheet metal for the lower mounts, just like the top mount it will be 'grommeted'







Then I welded the bash bar in





Skid plate is made out of 12awg sheet metal. Its sooo nice to have plasma cutters, sheet metal shears and all that **** around!


Fully protects the radiator and mounts to the TC bracket where the Tension Rod bolts to it. Its going to be removable.



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Old 04-17-2007, 10:00 PM   #5
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nice close fit to hood. leaves enough room for IC pipings, which will be made on Monday. I will be using a URAS vent.




it will be fully ducted using this radical chromed stainless thin sheet metal.... I made my electronics mount of it


so when you look in my opening (naughty) you will see a very large radiator surrounded by chrome ducting!

Surge tank. Radiator is a closed type. Bleeds from fill and radiator and gets suction from back of thermostat housing.


Overflow tank. stock


Pimped



I hacked the stock water neck off and welded in this nifty fill. It has a ThermoCap on it so I can tell my inlet versus outlet temps. Its also a dummy cap so it constantly bleeds air and such out to the surge tank via the -4an line.


The stock bleeder bolt has since been drilled and tapped for 1/8" NPT so it will act as the coolant source for the turbo.

Surge tank and overflow mounted. Partway through redoing the oil cooler setup.



Well thats it for today. This has all taken about 15 hours so far.... seeing as how its my first time ever attempting something of this nature, and having no formal schooling in fabrication, I think its going great.

I am waiting on my IC pipings, (2) -20an weld fitting for lower rad hose, lower and upper rad hose parts.

This weekend I will finish cleanin up my under dash wiring (I have a full custom chassis harness but have since added an electronic boost controller, wideband and such, so I need to clean it all up!)

Hopefully the car will go out for paint three or for weekends from now.

Its going to be the same blue... but it will be a much much nicer paint job!! (My last paint job was the cheapest MAACO one, turned out good for what it was..)

any questions, comments, hate, etc don't hessitate
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:00 PM   #6
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Well I got home from work yesterday and decided to get some **** done since the pipings came in the mail.
Took me 20 minutes to mock up and about 20 minutes to weld 40 minutes TOTAL... not bad for my first time ever welding a round butt-joint, and first time with that thin of material. It worked out so there weren't any tricky angles or cuts, so that helped a ton. I decided to trust my mock up and head to school and just fully weld them and luckily they worked out great.



Super short baby! (Thats a oil cooler mount I made at school as well.) I don't have access to a bead roller so I had to compromise and do the spot weld thing thing. It will work fine. Everything will be T-Bolted so it won't be an issue.

Only thing left to do is weld on the elbow for the IACV tube thing. I was going to do a braided line, but for now I will just use a nice elbow that I stole from a friends ****ed up GReddy cold pipe... once I do the GReddy IM I will do up a proper line (since I will have to redo the cold pipe.) This setups piping length is only a 1/3 of a regular aftermarket kit!



they fit pretty much perfect.









I know what you are prolly thinking... that cold pipe is going to hit the hood. It does, but remember, large vents going on hood will allow for plenty of clearance... its only a 1/4" too tall anyways.

no you are prolly thinking why not just make it shorter... I could have... but I wanted the piping/bend to be a smooth as possible, if I cut it shorter it would have been a bit awkward without doing the 'pie slice' method that I wanted to stay the **** away from.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:00 PM   #7
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I also ****ed around with ducting templates... they are just pre-templates if you will... goin to go to school and shear up a bunch of **** and then I will have a final template.

start


trim


trim some more


and wallah


obviously I will take care of the where the coolers meet and get that ducted off. chrome. I can't stop thinking about it. I am also going to make chrome ducting for my oil and ps cooler.


oil cooler bracket thing sorta mocked up



you can also see where and how (sorta) the skid plate connects up to the TC brackets


Now if JEGS would get offa they ass and send me the -20an weld bungs so I can bring the car to Pirtek it would be close to being done! (well, the vmount anyways)


I also started redoing my under dash harness. Building the electronics mount tonight... waiting on a couple Deutsch connectors and misc parts.

If it stops snowing and freezing my balls I am going to get the damage pulled out this weekend and next week I will finish my K-STYLE style taillights... basically just cutting the bottom half (orange turn sig part) offa the tail lights (already done) and then sheering up and welding in a filler panel between the tail lights, rear bumper and rear quarter panels. Don't worry - it won't be ghetto.
and if you don't like it, I don't like you! haha

after that its paint and hopefully I can afford to go to FD Atlanta (I better be able to, already paid up on it!)
I'll be the only one there with no stickers on my car I suppose!!

also will need to get car Tech ready for said event
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:09 PM   #8
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HOLY ****!!!! Greg you need this guy^^^^
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:23 PM   #9
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is it just me or does that lower bash bar stick way far out?
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:25 AM   #10
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thats too hard..im confused even by looking at the pictures.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:34 AM   #11
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thats a nice setup! thanks for alll the pics
would you be willing to help? where are you located?

Joe at munao will most likely be the one doing the welding for my endtanks and the piping. the rest ill be doing myself.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:22 AM   #12
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Thats a cool settup.
Mad props on doing it all yourself!
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:31 PM   #13
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thats a nice setup! thanks for alll the pics
would you be willing to help? where are you located?

Joe at munao will most likely be the one doing the welding for my endtanks and the piping. the rest ill be doing myself.
hes located in south slc, really nice guy. if you need extra hands, let me know as i am willing to help, but my knowledge in the area is lacking.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:48 PM   #14
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so is that his car? or just a post he read somewhere?
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:50 PM   #15
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Tits his car mange! Wah? chew no how to read?
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:38 PM   #17
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the new intercooler is in the mail, should be here soon.

im going to rock my current cooler for the time being.

my plan is to built the bracket and have the rad tilted. then i can still drive my car to where ever in new ICs endtanks will be built, and the piping will be made
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