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Old 08-29-2006, 07:15 AM   #26
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Ha, nice story, your quite the writer.
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:33 AM   #27
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Most of the time is wasted trying to figure out what combination of sockets and extensions to use on each bolt. After you've done several, you kinda remember this stuff and it all flows. I don't do them in 1.5hrs, but it is not at all a difficlt task. You just kinda do it and it boom, done.

There are some other installs that people swear are 1, 2, even 3 hour projects, such as the steering rack bushings. This takes me 15 minutes. There just really isn't anything difficult about it if you know what you're doing.
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:41 AM   #28
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i say it's not worth it, since all that happens afterwards is the uppipe rusting and falling apart anyway. Why not spend the money and buying stainless steel in which will last a lifetime compared to the stock one.
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:07 AM   #29
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i say it's not worth it, since all that happens afterwards is the uppipe rusting and falling apart anyway. Why not spend the money and buying stainless steel in which will last a lifetime compared to the stock one.
mine is perfectly fine, 3 years and 45k later.

it IS an oem pipe you know. i think you'd better go back and check just how many oem up pipes have actually failed, and compare those #s to aftermarket.
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:57 AM   #30
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i have no doubts the OEM pipe will outlast nearly any aftermarket out there... There is ONE story about an uppipe cat failing, and zero about just the uppipe itself falling apart on here vs how many aftermarket flex uppipes that develop leaks...
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:10 AM   #31
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Very entertaining write-up. BTW this is Goro talking. I did this in under 4 hours...ALONE....and that includes gutting the pipe. It takes me roughly 30min to clear out the pipe.
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Old 08-29-2006, 09:20 AM   #32
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You'd be amazed how easily stainless hardwear will gall and F' up the threads. I wouldn't use stainless on anything close to, or upstream of the turbo. The heat will weaken stainless a lot.

A good cad plated fastener on the other hand...
Oh, didn't realize that stainless had that problem. How about titanium then j/k. I just think manufacturers need to be smarter about what kind of bolts they use, so the cars can be easily serviced (read: modded)
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Old 08-29-2006, 10:23 AM   #33
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NitroDon swapped my wrx uppipe for an STi one in about 45minutes.
Although the front o2 sensor needed to be replaced because, like you said, it was "welded" in place and nothing could move it!
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:56 AM   #34
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Very entertaining write-up. BTW this is Goro talking. I did this in under 4 hours...ALONE....and that includes gutting the pipe. It takes me roughly 30min to clear out the pipe.
Hahah my god your guy's responses are freakin classic. So now...a few days since, the incident....I have been driving pretty hard to see if I feel anything.
It IS worth it - while the process was absolutly insane there is a great feeling inside me driving to work. I am totally catless now which I can really feel. Hahaha you guys are crackin me up.

I did some research on what the cat is made out of. You guys will not believe this..its made of ANIMANTIUM! So good luck to any future up-pipe gutters
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:26 PM   #35
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I did some research on what the cat is made out of. You guys will not believe this..its made of ANIMANTIUM! So good luck to any future up-pipe gutters
do you mean 'adamantium' ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium
that's what Wolverine's skeleton & claws are made of,
not what Adam Ant was made of.
(goody-two, goody-two,goody-goody two shoes . . .)
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:00 PM   #36
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uppipe gets too much hype as being a hard install...spray ur bolts so u dont break ne thing and get to work...i pull the manifold and slide it out...not THAT hard..
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Old 08-29-2006, 03:06 PM   #37
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do you mean 'adamantium' ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium
that's what Wolverine's skeleton & claws are made of,
not what Adam Ant was made of.
(goody-two, goody-two,goody-goody two shoes . . .)
haha that is what i meant
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:31 PM   #38
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It took about 6 hours for me to do my up pipe. A majority of the time was spent dealing with nuts and bolts that were stuck. That is the nature of the beast with exhaust parts. All of the crap I read before hand had me terrified. I think I could do one in under 3 hours at a nice leisurely pace now that I have done it once already.
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Old 08-29-2006, 10:26 PM   #39
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HEY CHEF LOOKIN TO DUE A UPPIPE INSTALL: WILLING TO LEND A HAND HAD THOSE KIND OF DAYS
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:11 AM   #40
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it does not take very long to do.. i swapped my UR EWG up pipe for my old HKS up pipe in about 2 hours by myself. I've NEVER had to lift my motor, I just simply pull the pipe UP and then out.. and drop ni the new one from the top.. If the people who have to lift their motors are taking out from the bottom, you deserve the worlds stupidest mechanic award.. either that or you may be puertorican..

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Old 08-30-2006, 08:44 AM   #41
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Did mine by myself in my garage on jack stands. Took no more than 5 hours with numerous smoke breaks. Its not hard, just time consuming.
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:53 AM   #42
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If the people who have to lift their motors are taking out from the bottom, you deserve the worlds stupidest mechanic award.. either that or you may be puertorican..

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I have to disagree ... When I had done my UP, my TBE was in already (Stage2 w/out the UP swapped because I was a noob and worried) ... I did mine through the bottom, jacked the engine and such ... It was quick and painless ... On top of which I didn't need to screw with the IC hoses which also worried me at the time ... Probably took me about 3 hrs to do the whole thing on jackstands ... I thought it was a bit of work, but honestly not very complicated ... Maybe it's all in the directions you get, and maybe it's when it first gets touched ... My car was an 04' w/10k miles or so, an 02' w/60k miles would likely be another story ...
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:24 AM   #43
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it does not take very long to do.. i swapped my UR EWG up pipe for my old HKS up pipe in about 2 hours by myself. I've NEVER had to lift my motor, I just simply pull the pipe UP and then out.. and drop ni the new one from the top.. If the people who have to lift their motors are taking out from the bottom, you deserve the worlds stupidest mechanic award.. either that or you may be puertorican..

-alan
That is because the HKS uppipe is much smaller than the stock uppipe. The stock uppipe has heast shield all over

Plus jack up the engine for 1 to 2 " is not hard. Unscrew 1 nut, unscrew the intake hose, jack up by the oil pan.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:48 PM   #44
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an 02' w/60k miles would likely be another story ...

Thats exactly what i have...not fun. And yeah, there is NO way you could pull the stock uppipe from the top of the motor. NO WAY - that thing is quite large with that heatshield. Jacking up the motor really was not a big deal - what WAS a big deal was the fact that if you jack it up a LITTLE too much the engine mount bolt will come out of the engine mount so you can no longer just lower the jack and have it settle right back in place. You will need one guy pushing hard against the bolt and one guy lowering the jack to make sure that it falls right in place.

Everything that COULD go wrong with an uppipe install happened to me trust me.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:59 PM   #45
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I'll add my unwanted $.02 to the chaos. I have had a perrin UP sitting in my garage since May. I finally pulled in off the shelf and said I can do this.

Start time Sat. 6pm and 6 1/2 hours later, she was running again. I spent an hour between BSing with the neighbor and eating then another hour trying to find the DP nut that fell into the abyss of the engine bay. Actual wrench time with jackstands (two) was about 4 1/2 hours with ahnd tools. Not too bad and it was well worth it.

Thanks to the brave souls that did it before me without all the forum help and directions!
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:33 AM   #46
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I did mine in 14 hours and 2 "6 packs of heineken."
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:29 AM   #47
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Think thats hard, wait til you do the injectors. Or making a 3in turbo fit with a 3in aps inlet pipe and leave the tgvs. Now thats fun!~ I think it took me 1hr to get the old pipe out and stick in the new one. But I gutted the old one later and that bish took forever, that where all the times spent, its a mother f-er
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:54 AM   #48
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Left loosey, righty tighty.

Next time maybe you wont round off your O2 sensor
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:46 PM   #49
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The first time, indeed, does suck. My first time doing this went something like the OP's (but without the broken bolts). My car was on jack stands for two days.

I've since done this probably more than a dozen times and can pull it off in 1.5 to 2 hrs flat. This is just for the install - not the gutting which I've never tried.

If you ever have to do it again, you'll find it goes smoother.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:13 PM   #50
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My exhaust took all night due to my stock WRX uppipe not wanting to come out.

We did not unbolt and motor/tranny mounts... F. That. Shiz.

Took a friend and I four hours of wrestling, individually, with the damn thing before my friend got it to 'magically' fall out.

This is was good read, and portrayed this install to be the bitch it truely is. WTS, it is very possible to be done by yourself in a reasonable amount of time with some patients and determination.
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