Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Wednesday December 24, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > News & Rumors

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-12-2010, 09:36 PM   #1076
Mike Wevrick
RIP 1/19/64 - 7/23/11
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 24654
Join Date: Sep 2002
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: saraseager.com
Vehicle:
1957 Taggart Comet
atlasshruggedpart1.com

Default

Quote:
Rain sensing and speed sensitive windshield wipers.
Our Mercedes has this and I hate it. It often wipes faster than I would prefer and sometimes jumps to high speed unexpectedly.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Mike Wevrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2010, 09:56 AM   #1077
GodWhomIsMike
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 102287
Join Date: Dec 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Hawley, PA
Vehicle:
2014 Crosstrek Ltd.
Tangerine Orange

Default

I got the best fuel mileage I ever got out of the 2009 Forester XT this weekend. I got a guzzliclous 21.9 mpg, and I tried hard to get the best fuel mileage out of it. 80% highway, 20% country backroads with no traffic lights or stops signs.

Subaru - you really need to something far more efficient. With the technology out there today, there is no reason why the Forester XT can't be making a little MORE power and getting over 30 mpg on the highway.
GodWhomIsMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2010, 10:05 AM   #1078
carrera
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 18578
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Vehicle:
2002 Legacy GT Wagon
Silverthorn

Default

Maybe it's been said before but, how about headlight washers? Several European cars have them. With all of the slop and salt on the roads around here now, it's hard to see where you are going when the lights get all powdercoated with salt spray from the roads and the cars ahead of you. Anyone here try to make their own?
carrera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 02:00 PM   #1079
lark6
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2715
Join Date: Oct 2000
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: where GW crossed the Delaware
Vehicle:
70 911T

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodWhomIsMike View Post
I got the best fuel mileage I ever got out of the 2009 Forester XT this weekend. I got a guzzliclous 21.9 mpg, and I tried hard to get the best fuel mileage out of it. 80% highway, 20% country backroads with no traffic lights or stops signs.

Subaru - you really need to something far more efficient. With the technology out there today, there is no reason why the Forester XT can't be making a little MORE power and getting over 30 mpg on the highway.
I won't link to my post in the now-closed '12 FXT N&R thread, but I think you and I are on the same page with this. FXT with better gearing - an additional speed or two in the AT and restore the MT for those who want - pretty please on pump regular but if not, maybe offer direct injection.

Also pretty please for the Forester:

- Restore the temperature gauge, replace the idiot light
- Make all the instrument lighting the same color, red needles preferred
- Make the interior "mood lighting" defeatable
- Restore the depth to the rear side compartments in the cargo bay; currently they are flush with the rest of the cargo floor thus defeating their purpose as separate storage areas
- Restore lights off when car is turned off - a nice idiotproof feature for us idiots
lark6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 04:52 PM   #1080
GodWhomIsMike
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 102287
Join Date: Dec 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Hawley, PA
Vehicle:
2014 Crosstrek Ltd.
Tangerine Orange

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lark6 View Post
I won't link to my post in the now-closed '12 FXT N&R thread, but I think you and I are on the same page with this. FXT with better gearing - an additional speed or two in the AT and restore the MT for those who want - pretty please on pump regular but if not, maybe offer direct injection.

Also pretty please for the Forester:

- Restore the temperature gauge, replace the idiot light
- Make all the instrument lighting the same color, red needles preferred
- Make the interior "mood lighting" defeatable
- Restore the depth to the rear side compartments in the cargo bay; currently they are flush with the rest of the cargo floor thus defeating their purpose as separate storage areas
- Restore lights off when car is turned off - a nice idiotproof feature for us idiots

My complaints about the four speed auto have nothing to do with performance or city mileage. Both are fine. Where the four speed falls short is at delivering good highway fuel economy. Again the 4 speed is great at day to day driving in all conditions, it is a lot of fun and has great performance, and has been very reliable for me. It's shortcoming is having an extra gear or two just to improve highway fuel mileage. Nothing else.

Subaru addressed the temperature gauge in the 2011 Forester Touring models:



They also added digital dual-zone climate control:




The only things I'd like to see on the 2012 Forester XT is:
-> Turbo engine based off of the new generation boxer
-> Same or better performance
-> An extra gear or two for improved HIGHWAY fuel economy
GodWhomIsMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2010, 06:53 PM   #1081
lark6
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2715
Join Date: Oct 2000
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: where GW crossed the Delaware
Vehicle:
70 911T

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodWhomIsMike View Post
Subaru addressed the temperature gauge in the 2011 Forester Touring models:



They also added digital dual-zone climate control:

extremely embarrassed forehead slap. That gauge cluster is eons ahead of what I saw in the '10, downright livable.

I don't get out much these days, really.
lark6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 07:34 PM   #1082
Paisan
Tri-State Track Instructor
Moderator
 
Member#: 197
Join Date: Aug 1999
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY
Vehicle:
'14 Touareg TDI '14
BRZ http://48hrs.info

Default

Having owned my STi for exactly a week now. A 2011 that is. Here is what I'd like to see on the "premium" priced STi to help differentiate it from the WRX lineup and these aren't stretches here...

Horns- Please make a deal with Hella to come standard with Supertones, they cost about $50 retail which means that FHI could get them for pennies.
Auto Off Headlights- I know they go off when the key is removed, however it's fairly standard to have a time-delayed headlights on even the cheapest of cars these days. Also they should turn off after the delay with or without the key in. I park my car in a garage and leave the keys in the ignition, so if I forget to remove the keys the battery goes dead due to the headlights staying on. All my other cars have this feature back to 2005! Also auto-on headlights would also be a nice premium feature that would cost almost nothing to integrate. I also like that digital HVAC controller from the forester, throw that in the STi too.
Gauge Cluster- On my 05 CTSv there is a niftly little digital section on the dash, it has included in it: Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Coolant Temp, Oil Pressure, and TPMS for each wheel. There is a steering wheel button to scroll through them and there is also a feature where if they move outside the normal range, it will automatically switch to that gauge and flash. This is a great feature especially on a high performance car like the STi, you could add in there a boost gauge on that panel.
Auto-up/down windows- All 4 could be auto-up/down
HID High beams- Again, not a stretch but would help justify the premium price on the STi and further differentiate it from the "lower" WRX model

That's about it for now! I'd also like to say the 2011 Hatch is great and out of the box it handles and stops on par with my 2005 Legacy GT that I put a significant amount of time, effort and money into the suspension (bushings, bearings, braces, sways, shocks, struts, brakes, etc) to get to that point. This is a great accomplishment for an out of the box car carrying a full warranty.

-mike
Paisan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2010, 07:36 PM   #1083
Paisan
Tri-State Track Instructor
Moderator
 
Member#: 197
Join Date: Aug 1999
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY
Vehicle:
'14 Touareg TDI '14
BRZ http://48hrs.info

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodWhomIsMike View Post
My complaints about the four speed auto have nothing to do with performance or city mileage. Both are fine. Where the four speed falls short is at delivering good highway fuel economy. Again the 4 speed is great at day to day driving in all conditions, it is a lot of fun and has great performance, and has been very reliable for me. It's shortcoming is having an extra gear or two just to improve highway fuel mileage. Nothing else.

Subaru addressed the temperature gauge in the 2011 Forester Touring models:



They also added digital dual-zone climate control:




The only things I'd like to see on the 2012 Forester XT is:
-> Turbo engine based off of the new generation boxer
-> Same or better performance
-> An extra gear or two for improved HIGHWAY fuel economy
You don't need more gears to accomplish this. 4th gear could be pushed out further if they bumped the engine to say the engine in the '10+ LGT. My 1992 SVX with 4 gears only used to turn 30+mpg at 80mph on the highway with 100,000 miles on the ticker.

-mike
Paisan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2010, 01:50 PM   #1084
Doobie Scoo
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 116123
Join Date: May 2006
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Seattle
Vehicle:
93 MR2 T
Blue metallic

Default

I'd like to see a 2 liter (JDM) engine in the STI stateside, That way we can enjoy the extra 10k in transmission costs for the STI as it was meant to be, behind a 9k redline, 2 liter engine. Hell the tranny was made to be mated with a 2.0 with a 9k redline, not a 2.5, with 6700 redline. Having driven both a USDM and a JDM STI, the JDM is hands down waaaaaaaay more fun to drive.
Doobie Scoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2011, 12:01 PM   #1085
madmax_087
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 197077
Join Date: Dec 2008
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: AZIC Mesa
Vehicle:
1992 Dodge Ram W150
BAN CORINATOR

Default

Dear SOA,

Please make the Impreza smaller. Why is it getting bigger and bigger? I dont want a Subaru DeVille, I want a Subaru Impreza WRX. Smaller = lighter = better economy/more speed = more fun. The newer cars are getting larger, heavier, and crammed with more techno bs, and all that does is make me want an 05 STi more and more.

Also, give us back a coupe! The GC coupes are definitely more sought after.
madmax_087 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2011, 01:34 AM   #1086
HipToBeSquare
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:
1992 SVX LS-L

Default

This just hit at NAIAS today:


The Land Rover Evoque has also been shown.

Here's an idea for Subaru to really shine, as a niche manufacturer.

A Forester Coupe Utility Vehicle.

Take the Forester, and chop the roof down a bit, and rake the windscreen further back a bit.

Give it two side doors like a coupe. Not a fully fastback roofline, but with more rake to the rear glass than the regular Forester, and shorter rear overhang. Make it more angular than the Impreza 5-door body, not hunchbacked, but of similar interior volume.

Use the WRX STI drivetrain, with taller Forester-height bilstein suspension. Use STI brakes, and STI 5x114.3 hubs, and STI's DCCD 6MT gearbox, and 300hp engine, or a 300hp+ tuned flat 6 in front of the same drivetrain. Full skid-plate protection, and frotn and rear LSD differentials, in addition to the driver-controlled center differential. Maybe a cross-terrain version of of the SI-Drive setup for vehicle dynamics control tied into the DCCD control profiles.

Perhaps include some of Impreza Design Concept's design details into the bodywork and general details, but still keep the general purposeful look of the Forester's front end and stature.

That would be an interesting all-around AWD bruiser. Maybe not the rock-crawler that a Wrangler is, or the Baja runner that the Raptor is... but something interesting and sporty that suits an AWD niche.

And it would have better drivetrain than the Land-Rover or Mini vehicles, which are both FWD-transverse based drivetrains.
HipToBeSquare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2011, 01:57 PM   #1087
HipToBeSquare
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:
1992 SVX LS-L

Default

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Very few coupes sell as well as their sedan counterparts... but they do sell to some people.

By that reasoning, Subaru should just build one CUV, and tell everyone who wants something else to 'sod off.'

But after some additional consideration... I think I want to revise my suggestion.

Instead of a Forester Coupe Utility Vehicle...

A true Outback Sport Coupe. Similar to my above description, except a body that it is a little less slab-sided as the current Forester is. Forester is fine for what it is.

But an Impreza with STI hardware, on slightly taller suspension, (make the fender flares mean something), and a 3-door bodystyle, with coupe side doors, and a rear hatch somewhere halfway between a hot-hatch (vertical hatchback), and a fastback (sleek roof liftback).

Then it could really be much closer to a low-ride-height Impreza Sport Coupe, which could have smoother fenders, and a bit sleeker liftback roofline. That stuff is the easy stuff to change, for an OE manufacturer.

Impreza Sport Coupe + Outback Sport Coupe. That would be a nice combo.

And they could have an H6 powered, well optioned Grand Touring version of the Impreza Sport Coupe, to compete against Genesis 3.8 coupe, and undercut A5 and G37, with the added advantage of having AWD. It would re-fill the role that SVX did.

All in one basic model framework along with the sedan and 5-door versions of the Impreza, and Outback Sport.

Three body-styles:
3-door Coupe
5-door Sedan (possibly just 4-passenger places, what people like to call a 4-door coupe)
5-door wagon-let

5 trim lines
Base 4-cyl Impreza (all three body-styles)

Base 4-cyl Outback Sport (5-door only to replace the old BP Outback, smaller than the current full Outback, which might as well merge with the Tribeca, since they are both pretty much the same size and same drivetrain.)

Turbo Impreza (drop the price of STI to effectively merge WRX and STI together, in All 3 bodystyles. STI equipment has been amortized for many years now, and STI-level performance is starting to be eclipsed by much more performance per dollar from the likes of Mustang GT. It is time to lower the price of STI-grade performance, and sell more of it.) Since Subaru is out of WRC... perhaps just call it Impreza STI.

Turbo Outback Sport XT 3-door and 5-door. (same specs as Impreza STI above, in a slightly raised, and more cross-terrain ready package, similar in concept, but better in execution to the Mini Paceman concept pictured above, and 5-door Mini Countryman it is based on.)

H6 Impreza-based GT Coupe with STI-level drivetrain, brake and suspension equipment, re-calibrated for touring, with Legacy/Outback/Tribeca levels of amenities, to make a huge Legacy-body based coupe unnecessary, and to succeed the SVX's H6-AWD Grand Touring Coupe role. Maybe even call the trim line SVX again, if it has a bit of unique styling on the front and back fascias. Maybe, just maybe, if there is enough demand for an H6 sport sedan... make the SVX trim both 3-door coupe and the 5-door 4-seat sleek sedan bodystyles, smaller than the current and likely future Legacy.

Forester would probably work well on an Outback-based chassis, with Impreza-based levels of amenities, half way in length between Impreza-Line and Outback/Legacy line, and keep it's bigger-than-impreza 5-door, 5-seat SUV looks... and add a 4-door SUT with a small open bed, to succeed and improve on the Baja. Especially necessary that it use turbo-diesel or H6 power, and have a bit of utility towing capability, like an actual small truck.

That would leave the remaining larger line. line with two models, and three bodystyles.
-Outback CUV 5 or 7 passenger choice, possibly including an extended wheelbase for the 7-passenger. Call the 7-passenger Tribeca, or a modifier after Outback.
** other option would be to further differentiate the 7-passenger vehicle as a sleek AWD minivan, instead of a CUV, and call that Tribeca, while leaving Outback as the 5-7 seat CUV above the Forester.**
-Legacy 5-passenger sedan. Might as well make it an AWD Avalon equivalent, and drop the pretense of a sport sedan. Let Impreza sedan be the sport sedan.)

All H6 or Turbo-diesel engines, all automatic or CVT gearboxes. The mainstream appliance people-mover lineup, while Impreza-line maintains the modest to sporty lineup.

I think that works out to be a pretty diverse lineup, on a modular chassis structure in pretty much two size classes of chassis. Impreza-based chassis for the smaller cars and coupes, Outback-based chassis for the bigger cars and CUVs. FB Non-turbo 4-cylinders, EJ-revised turbo 4-cylinders or FB-based turbo 4s, Boxer turbo-diesel, and EZ-based H6 engines. CVT, 5EAT, new 6EAT, and 6MT (until dual-clutch can be introduced, too).

Last edited by HipToBeSquare; 01-11-2011 at 03:01 PM.
HipToBeSquare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2011, 10:50 AM   #1088
rsholland
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5769
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Ellicott City, MD, USA
Vehicle:
'09 WRX Prem 5-dr
Dark Gray

Default Blind-spot mirrors

I think these should be standard on all models. It's an excellent safety feature.

Bob
rsholland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2011, 06:55 PM   #1089
RobE
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 114550
Join Date: May 2006
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsholland View Post
I think these should be standard on all models. It's an excellent safety feature.

Bob
http://www.wikihow.com/Set-Rearview-...te-Blind-Spots


Blind spot mirrors are annoying.
RobE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 12:23 PM   #1090
HipToBeSquare
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:
1992 SVX LS-L

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HipToBeSquare View Post
Don't make the same under-delivered promises of the Baja.

A turbo engine is very nice and sporty. Not necessarily the best "workhorse."

Trucks that look a bit like trucks sell better.

If you can't put much in the bed, that is fine... but you'd better be able to put it on a trailer behind the vehicle.

So... I propose this.

Forester is now bigger than ever, and looks decent for a SUV, and with the architecture shared with the previous outback/legacy platform, it will fit the EZ flat 6 engines.

Here's the kicker.

SUT.

Cut the roof off the back of that, like hummer cut the H3 roof down for the H3T, or Honda cut the roof off the Pilot for the Ridgeline.

Forester is not that big, thankfully... but still looks "truckish", not like a car with a bed on the back, and would look good with a modest bed on the back.

Upgrade the chassis. Here's how.
1: 5x114.3 hubs from STI or Tribeca. Capability to fit normal wheels from all over the market, if the offset is compatible.
2: bigger brakes from Tribeca or WRX monobloc brakes. Something that will be enough to haul down a loaded Forester-type vehicle with 5000lbs of towed weight.
3: use Legacy spec.B's 6MT robust manual gearbox for the manual transmission option, geared for the purpose of the truck.
4: use the 5EAT automatic gearbox for the automatic... with a factory transmission cooler, and not just a cheap 2-pass in-radiator element.
5: re-inforce the rear unibody structure with more structural steel, to bear weight in the bed, and to bear weight from a trailer. Class III, 500 tongue, 5000lb. gross trailer weight. Standard receiver hitch and wiring pigtail.

ENGINES. very important.
BASE:
new DOHC Naturally Aspirated flat 4 as the base engine. CVT or 5-speed manual base gearbox option, just like forester, plus the new engine.

Upgrade 1:
EZ32 H6. De-stroke the 3.6 back down to EZ30R's stroke length, with EZ36 bore. It would have EZ36's upgrades, technically, but be smaller and differentiated from Outback/Legacy/Tribeca's engine, so not to "step on toes."

5EAT with cooling and other robust duty upgrades, which should be done anyway for automatic option. Spec.B/STI type robust 6MT for manual transmission option.

Both would have VTD AWD, and R180 robust and limited slip-equipped rear differential.

Upgrade 2, if it can be brought in to the US, due to federalization issues...
Turbo Diesel Boxer, same gearbox options as the H6 upgrade.

Upgrade 3, just for fun, and for the Subie enthusiasts.
WRX or STI power-level Turbo H4, and slightly lower stance, sporty wheels (maybe STI wheels directly) as XT-Sport. STI manual gearbox only, monochrome paint, like the previous XT-Sport or Forester STI. Both SUT and SUV body-style.

The H6 and Turbo Diesel should also be applied, with those transmission options, to the Forester SUV body, as well, to continue to compete with the likes of the V6 RAV4, and others.
Update: The above suggestion... that looks like a cross between this:


And THIS:




Maybe with a mid-gate folding bulkhead into the cabin, to further lengthen the bed. Maybe.

And Class 3 towing for 5000lbs gross trailer weight, 500lbs tongue weight, as a minimum... so that what it cannot haul in the bed, it can haul on a trailer.

and just to re-iterate...

NA FB-4cylinder base power, with 5MT or CVT.
Optional turbo diesel boxer power with 6MT or upgraded automatic.
Optional EZ-series flat 6 power, with standard unleaded fuel with 6MT or upgraded automatic
special sport edition package (maybe limited numbers) with WRX/STI 6MT drivetrain and rally equipment and graphics.

Possibly low-range and hill-hold functions on the up-optioned diesel and H6 gearboxes.

Ruggedized base interior with stain and water resistant seat upholstery and rubber floor, rather than carpet. (carpet floormats optional)

Limited interior option with leather and full-carpeted up-optioned interior, and big double-pane sunroof.

And PLEASE... 5x114.3 hubs, with either Tribeca or brembo/STI brakes on all models, so that it is easy to install terrain and seasonal appropriate wheels and tires. The bigger brakes will also help stopping distance when cargo-loaded.

These adaptations can be applied to the Forester SUV, as well to make it more competitive than it already is.
HipToBeSquare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 01:22 PM   #1091
rsholland
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5769
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Ellicott City, MD, USA
Vehicle:
'09 WRX Prem 5-dr
Dark Gray

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HipToBeSquare View Post
Update: The above suggestion... that looks like a cross between this:


And THIS:




Maybe with a mid-gate folding bulkhead into the cabin, to further lengthen the bed. Maybe.

And Class 3 towing for 5000lbs gross trailer weight, 500lbs tongue weight, as a minimum... so that what it cannot haul in the bed, it can haul on a trailer.

and just to re-iterate...

NA FB-4cylinder base power, with 5MT or CVT.
Optional turbo diesel boxer power with 6MT or upgraded automatic.
Optional EZ-series flat 6 power, with standard unleaded fuel with 6MT or upgraded automatic
special sport edition package (maybe limited numbers) with WRX/STI 6MT drivetrain and rally equipment and graphics.

Possibly low-range and hill-hold functions on the up-optioned diesel and H6 gearboxes.

Ruggedized base interior with stain and water resistant seat upholstery and rubber floor, rather than carpet. (carpet floormats optional)

Limited interior option with leather and full-carpeted up-optioned interior, and big double-pane sunroof.

And PLEASE... 5x114.3 hubs, with either Tribeca or brembo/STI brakes on all models, so that it is easy to install terrain and seasonal appropriate wheels and tires. The bigger brakes will also help stopping distance when cargo-loaded.

These adaptations can be applied to the Forester SUV, as well to make it more competitive than it already is.
Now you're talkin'!

Bob
rsholland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 01:25 PM   #1092
keepclam
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 120244
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Everett, WA
Vehicle:
2006 Legacy SE Sedan
2006 Pilot EX-L 4WD

Thumbs up

A Tribeca-based truck with Forester styling would get a thumbs up from me.
keepclam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 01:55 PM   #1093
HipToBeSquare
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 119958
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: (IA) flyover cornfield country
Vehicle:
1992 SVX LS-L

Default

I think Forester is big enough as it currently is. Much bigger, and it gets too close to full-size, and gets hammered like the Ridgeline.

Forester with Tribeca hardware and H6 or boxer diesel would still be distant enough from an F150/Ram/Silverado/Tundra, to be a different segment, and not considered to be in any sort of competition.

And nobody else seems interested in building an ACTUALLY GOOD vehicle in the small truck class... Ranger is on the way out, Colorado is a joke, and Dakota and Ridgeline are too close to full-size, without the perception of full-size advantage, and too big to be space efficient.

Baja was too under-developed to pull it's weight, or even it's public perception. It didn't get Outback's H6, and looked too much like a chopped up station wagon, rather than an SUT, and it couldn't tow the modest cargo or lifestyle toys (boat, jet-skis, motorcycles, snowmobiles, etc) that wouldn't fit in the bed.

Forester is a much better base for this than the 2000-2004 Outback was.

Tribeca might work... but it edges toward big enough to get static interference from the full-size truck market, and you'd have to re-style the whole thing just to make it look like the Forester already does.
HipToBeSquare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 02:39 PM   #1094
rsholland
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5769
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Ellicott City, MD, USA
Vehicle:
'09 WRX Prem 5-dr
Dark Gray

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HipToBeSquare View Post
I think Forester is big enough as it currently is. Much bigger, and it gets too close to full-size, and gets hammered like the Ridgeline.

Forester with Tribeca hardware and H6 or boxer diesel would still be distant enough from an F150/Ram/Silverado/Tundra, to be a different segment, and not considered to be in any sort of competition.

And nobody else seems interested in building an ACTUALLY GOOD vehicle in the small truck class... Ranger is on the way out, Colorado is a joke, and Dakota and Ridgeline are too close to full-size, without the perception of full-size advantage, and too big to be space efficient.

Baja was too under-developed to pull it's weight, or even it's public perception. It didn't get Outback's H6, and looked too much like a chopped up station wagon, rather than an SUT, and it couldn't tow the modest cargo or lifestyle toys (boat, jet-skis, motorcycles, snowmobiles, etc) that wouldn't fit in the bed.

Forester is a much better base for this than the 2000-2004 Outback was.

Tribeca might work... but it edges toward big enough to get static interference from the full-size truck market, and you'd have to re-style the whole thing just to make it look like the Forester already does.
I'm convinced that there is indeed a market for a really good (as in work-ready) small truck. The new (roughly mid-size) VW Amarok has a payload of ~ 3,300 pounds; same with may other smaller trucks not imported here. That's more than many full-size 3/4-ton trucks!

None of the established truckmakers will build a heavy-duty small truck as it would step on the toes of their (very profitable) full-size trucks. So don't expect anything exceptional from Toyota, Nissan, GM, Ford or Ram. If any of those brands do offer something, there will always be a glass ceiling as to how capable it could be. So if you want something truly exceptional in a smaller truck, it will have to come from VW, Honda, Subaru, or some other brand that doesn't offer a traditional full-size pickup. I'm hoping Subaru is paying attention.

Bob
rsholland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2011, 08:06 AM   #1095
Vlad
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 46135
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NY
Vehicle:
02 WRX
Sti V9 Spec C

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paisan View Post
Gauge Cluster- On my 05 CTSv there is a niftly little digital section on the dash, it has included in it: Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Coolant Temp, Oil Pressure, and TPMS for each wheel. There is a steering wheel button to scroll through them and there is also a feature where if they move outside the normal range, it will automatically switch to that gauge and flash. This is a great feature especially on a high performance car like the STi, you could add in there a boost gauge on that panel.

-mike
My wife's 1998 BMW 328i has a feature where the on board message display can be made to show all OBDII data.

I suggest that the current Sti Navi unit that already is starting to show some mechanical-oriented options/settings (oil change reminder, interior lights delay), should have the range extended to include full OBDII data.
If code resetting is viewed as a legal liabillity, then don't include that, but give it some kind of cool g-meter, like some of the top end GM products have.
Maybe the unit already has this, but its capabillity is locked away. If it is, leak out the unlock procedure already...
Vlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2011, 08:09 AM   #1096
Vlad
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 46135
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NY
Vehicle:
02 WRX
Sti V9 Spec C

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doobie Scoo View Post
I'd like to see a 2 liter (JDM) engine in the STI stateside, That way we can enjoy the extra 10k in transmission costs for the STI as it was meant to be, behind a 9k redline, 2 liter engine. Hell the tranny was made to be mated with a 2.0 with a 9k redline, not a 2.5, with 6700 redline. Having driven both a USDM and a JDM STI, the JDM is hands down waaaaaaaay more fun to drive.
I think the only 2.0 JDM Sti left is the Spec C. The Japanese also have the 2.5 now.
Vlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2011, 08:51 AM   #1097
Lukulele
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 189855
Join Date: Sep 2008
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: North Carolina
Vehicle:
2008 Imp.Outback Sp.
Silver

Default

[quote=rsholland;33242176]I'm convinced that there is indeed a market for a really good (as in work-ready) small truck. The new (roughly mid-size) VW Amarok has a payload of ~ 3,300 pounds; same with may other smaller trucks not imported here. That's more than many full-size 3/4-ton trucks!

None of the established truckmakers will build a heavy-duty small truck as it would step on the toes of their (very profitable) full-size trucks. So don't expect anything exceptional from Toyota, Nissan, GM, Ford or Ram. If any of those brands do offer something, there will always be a glass ceiling as to how capable it could be. So if you want something truly exceptional in a smaller truck, it will have to come from VW, Honda, Subaru, or some other brand that doesn't offer a traditional full-size pickup. I'm hoping Subaru is paying attention.

That's why we see so many old Rangers, S-10s, and especially long bed Toyotas kept up by their owners down here.
Lukulele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2011, 08:07 PM   #1098
John@TA
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 261585
Join Date: Oct 2010
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Atlanta, GA
Vehicle:
1997 95 Legacy EJ20R
Red

Default

What would I like to see in future Subaru vehicles?

1 - Subaru Legacy STI
I've personally always been a Legacy fan. I hate the Impreza with a passion. Yeah, there were a limited number of Legacy STIs released, but I would love to see an Legacy STI made into a production car.
2 - HID lights
I would love to see HID lighting come standard on all models
3 - Twin Turbo
Why does the Japan market get all the goodies? lol. I wish we had an option here for twin turbo models.
4 - More Turbo Models
Ford is coming out with their "EcoTech" engines. Twin turbo v6 engines that deliver v8 power but with much better fuel economy. Subaru should follow in Fords footsteps. The use of a turbo can do a great deal to help fuel economy.
5 - A better "sports car"
For just a little more then the cost of a new STI, I can go buy any number of domestic cars that blow the STI out of the water in terms of power. I think Subaru should merge the WRX and STI together, and make a new 2 door based Impreza that delivers 450+ horsepower. A flat 6 design may be needed to put this into production.
John@TA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2011, 01:28 AM   #1099
keepclam
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 120244
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Everett, WA
Vehicle:
2006 Legacy SE Sedan
2006 Pilot EX-L 4WD

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John@TA View Post
4 - More Turbo Models
Ford is coming out with their "EcoTech" engines. Twin turbo v6 engines that deliver v8 power but with much better fuel economy. Subaru should follow in Fords footsteps. The use of a turbo can do a great deal to help fuel economy.
In the Legacy, the only model to include both a turbo and the H6 in the lineup, the MPG ratings are identical. Turbo is with 6-spd manual, H6 is with 5-spd auto. HP & torque are somewhere around 4% greater in the turbo, but it also requires premium fuel to get those numbers (and must use more expensive Subaru synthetic oil as well). Unless improvements are made to the turbo, the simpler H6 makes more sense to me.
keepclam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2011, 05:05 PM   #1100
wayward167
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 253998
Join Date: Aug 2010
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Pocatello ID
Vehicle:
13 BRZ
SWP

Default

I would like the wrx to have:

Direct injection
One touch up down all windows
Strong brakes
6 speed manual
Shorter front lip(prevent hitting street)
Rear bias awd 60/40 or 70/30
Audio- sound deadening, quality head unit, factory amp* infinity system in Dodge as a benchmark
Integrated key fob
wayward167 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Subaru to fit all future models with seats with exclusive toilet functionality... HB_Dad News & Rumors 11 04-01-2010 12:38 PM
Acura's Future Models mhoward1 Non-Subaru News & Rumors 37 09-01-2006 12:23 AM
My Subaru Future model predictions Johnny5 News & Rumors 36 02-28-2006 10:25 PM
Your predictions of Subaru's future model line up only1agam News & Rumors 23 05-18-2004 01:17 PM
Will XT lose power in future models? max_stirling Forester Forum 8 10-29-2003 08:36 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.