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Old 10-29-2001, 08:57 PM   #1
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Hi, I am new to this site and i wanted to get some advice.
well, right now i own an rsx type s. i dont realy like it, i mean i do, but i realy realy wnat the sti to come over.
Anyway, my situation is, my dad sais i can probably get an sti for highschool graduation in june 2004, and i sell my rsx. i realy want to do that! but if im gonna do that, idont want to put mods on my rsx. if the sti is not out by then i will wait but if it is not coming out i want a all wheel drive turbo car. ahhh!!! what should i do? should i continue to mod my rsx? if the sti will come will it most likely be out by june 2004 or around there? what other options do i have to get. and that will be out then.
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Old 10-29-2001, 10:01 PM   #2
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anyone??
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Old 10-29-2001, 10:15 PM   #3
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Go ahead to mod your teg.

You should've bought a WRX with those money.
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Old 10-29-2001, 11:44 PM   #4
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How bout finding a better reason to post other than to brag about what your daddy buys you, and get all the i-club geizers stirred up.

Seriously man, you couldn't have made it more intensional if you tried. You're new here so you haven't seen what happens when young blokes with wealth parents mention "daddy bought me"

My suggestion, mod the RSX, then get the STI, and while you're at it get your dad to pick up an M3 for your sister. (now I'm just having fun )

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Old 10-29-2001, 11:51 PM   #5
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hey, im sorry i made it sound like that. I am new here so i dont know much about it. i was just kinda angryat myself for getting an rsx. i didnt mean to make it sound like that and I respect your feelings.
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Old 10-30-2001, 02:05 AM   #6
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Don't be angry. You can give me your Rsx. Appreciate what you got Kid.
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Old 10-30-2001, 03:25 AM   #7
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the new Integra (RSX, but I hate the name) is a nice car, I like it. If it's just between the car it'd be hard for me to to choose too. But since I am a big rally car, awd car, turbo car fan, and live in a place with unpredictable rain and snow, I'd choose WRX easily.

If you really want WRX, how about take the teg and trade it in now? the difference you need to pay is pretty marginal.

you'll know whether you need an sti or not after owning the wrx for a while.
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Old 10-30-2001, 08:20 AM   #8
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OK ,here we go... 1st bash.

You're only a Sophomore right now? (You said graduate in '04) and you have a $19K car? Let me take a guess... 16th b-day present. Then in 2 years, beacause you really want one, an STi...

Do you relize that some people cannot afford a new car every 5 or 10 years in this country? Yet, because you want daddy will provide???

Ok, on a more serious note... Please read this as it's not me picking on you. k?

Who will pay the insurance when you're 17 driving an estimated $30K sports car that does 0-60 in under 5 seconds? Look up how much insurance would be on Porsche 911, Corvette, or new BMW M3, and look how much it will cost you, or your daddy. My guess is $3K to $4k additional for insurance.

Mod your RSX.

I know I don't know you and you're probably a decent kid. But time and time again I see the same stuff popping up in the news. "Local teenagers die in car accident. 3 young lives were ended today as a car travelling down Main Street hit a utility pole. The two teenage passengers, one the high school yearbook president and the other captain of the football team were thrown clear of the car and suffered severe trauma to the head. The Driver was crushed on impact with the pole when his driver side door impacted the pole. He was killed instantly. Speed was a factor". What they leave out in these articles is that speed does not kill. Ignorace in controlling speed kills. (This is an age long debate in itself).

It's accidents like these that 1) Raise rates for teeagers everywhere, making it very difficult for the most cautious teenager to get insurance and 2) raise the rates for drivers of that vehicle because it's a fast car.

I'm not saying you'd be the driver of that car. But some statistics show those people that get cars as gifts, never really appreciate what they have and abuse it, never learning from it. Because usually if something happens, daddy steps up to the plate and makes everything go away, or makes things better in the very least.

Stick with the RSX or Base WRX. Learn how to drive. Take courses like Bondaurant or Evolution driving school, or even do some Auto-xing and LEARN from it. Save the speed, even if you do get the car, for a track and keep it off the road. Try not to impress your friends with your car, no matter which one you have. I know it's hard not to flaunt what you have, but you'll end up, down the road, being better for it.

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Old 10-30-2001, 08:46 AM   #9
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I got a beanie baby and $1000.00 for a graduation gift...I thought that was generous...you want an STi. Jeeze, be happy with what you have, even though it is a Honduh.

PS-you said you wanted an AWD turbo car...WRX...
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Old 10-30-2001, 09:09 AM   #10
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damn, I got a refrigerator (small one for a dorm), and I can't even remember what my mom got me (parent's are diveroced).

Must be nice.

Anyway, I say stick with the car you have, then go out, get a job, and pay for a car that you want. Don't have your daddy buy you another car...noone respects that.

No, I'm not a geezer, I'm 22. I've worked for, and paid for all 4 cars I've ever owned, thanks for asking.
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Old 10-30-2001, 09:24 AM   #11
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No, I'm not a geezer, I'm 22. I've worked for, and paid for all 4 cars I've ever owned, thanks for asking.
Me too. Exactly the same info as you...22, 4 cars, and paid my own way...maybe you're my clone.
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Old 10-30-2001, 10:35 AM   #12
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Seriously man! An STi will be WAY too much of a car for you to handle! Even the RSX or stock WRX is too much for an unexperienced driver.

Sure you know how to drive, but you dont really know how to drive. When I was 18, my first car was a 98 Saturn Sedan. Sure, my pops helped me a little with the payments and stuff, but I learned how to drive with that car. Gained experience from it and stuff, learned my limits, learned how to drive stick etc....with an ECONOMY CAR.

When I felt "ready" for more power, better handling, I sold and and bought myself a 2000 RS. Not a super powerful sports car, but a BIG step up from that Saturn. And you know what? I almost killed myself a few times in this car because I thought I had the experience to handle this car. I thought the AWD and everything made me invincible. WRONG!

An STi is a VERY powerful car....it should only be in the hands of EXPERIENCED drivers. I'd be a little scared to drive one myself! Until I learn more.

Think of it this way.....if your dad bought you a 450hp Viper as soon as you got your liscense, you'd prolly smash it the first time you took it out!

I say keep the RSX, do some Auto Xing, some drivers courses, and mod it slowly to the best of your abilities. Dont throw on a HUGE rear swaybar, stiff suspension and a turbo before you can drive the car. Just keep it safe dude......
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Old 10-30-2001, 12:41 PM   #13
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Me too. Exactly the same info as you...22, 4 cars, and paid my own way...maybe you're my clone.
Wanna hear spooky? I'm also 22, paying for my AWD affliction solely, and on my third car.... almost there.

What do you guys do? I'm an engineering intern.

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Old 10-30-2001, 01:05 PM   #14
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I'm 32... one of the older members.

My WRX is my 10th car. All I've had to work for.

I develop interactive training for a large not-for-profit organization.

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Old 10-30-2001, 01:33 PM   #15
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ehh, right now I'm a helpdesk bum who dropped out of college

waiting for my opportunity, though!

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Old 10-30-2001, 02:12 PM   #16
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I am 22 too. Still going to school. My high school graduation present is probably my university tuition. Still looking for a part time job to buy a used car. (A $2000 AE86 would be nice).

Hey kido (i really want the sti), you should feel lucky for what you have.
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Old 10-30-2001, 04:09 PM   #17
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Thumbs up yeah no kidding!

I got a card and "I can't believe you actually graduated," when I was graduating a year early mind you so I wasn't slacking off... oh yeah and a breakup from my girlfriend and all of this on my birthday night! the best thing I got was self satisfaction on my graduation night/Birthday! And it was well worth it!!The car I have now I bust my a$$ for and know what it is like to go hungry to make a car payment!

So right now the least of your worries is when the WRX STI is coming out! Look forward bro and I mean Directly forward Like maybe evn closer to your toes! not so far ahead of yourself. You should be more concerned on what you are going to be doing in life than wheather or not the sti is comming in time for your graduation!

This is not a BASH just a helpfull hint thats all.
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Old 10-30-2001, 05:49 PM   #18
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Mod your car, but don't do what you think that means. Don't go for increased horsepower right away. Buy the best brakes you can find. Look for cross-cut or cross-drilled rotors, bigger calipers, and stainless steel brakelines. It was a long time ago that I was sixteen, but I remember needing better brakes more often than I needed more power.
Then, before moving on to suspension mods, modify the driver. Take the advice these guys have given you and attend some driving schools. These are great fun and great for learning; and something tells me you won't balk at the price.
You don't really need more power until you have learned to harness what is already available.

Since we are all sharing, I'm a 27 year old accountant/accounting student and this is my last semester. Hooray! I've had a bunch of cars, but all of them (WRX included) have been purchased used. Many of them were wrecked and I rebuilt them or had them rebuilt(WRX included).

Finally, some constructive criticism: you used the words I, my, or myself a total of 29 times in the equivalent of 11 lines of text. I told you I'm an accountant, right? I'm sure it's unintentional, but it makes you sound self-absorbed. I'm not trying to bash you, but you'll find old codgers on every board who'll notice that kind of thing and make snap judgements about you.

Good grief, change your screen name!
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Old 10-30-2001, 06:52 PM   #19
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Not to sound harsh - but an STi is WAY too much car for someone of your age. Even the RSX in a capable drivers hands is one hell of a fast car.

I`m 28 - and I drove FWD 1.3 ltr sub-100 BHP cars for years. I had huge amounts of fun learning in them and the big point is - it was safer. Maybe not the same street cred as an M3 or an STi - but hell i`m alive to reminisce about it now ;-)


Front wheel drive cars are a good place to start to learn car control - if you turn in too hot and you start to understeer backing off and dabbing the brake will not normally result in a spin - it just stops the understeer.

In RWD and AWD cars - it can and quite often has unfortunately resulted in a fatal spin - by fatal I mean people die.

It wasn`t until I was 25 that I could afford my own car.

After a few years learning my 300 bhp RWD `67 camaro I got an RS scoobie - I took it easy in my scoobie and probed it`s limits gently and safely - and learned alot about car control in the process - I`ve several taken racing and rally schools.

If you want a graduation present you will never forget - scratch the idea of a scoobie and get yourself some track time with an experienced instructor.

If rally is your bug like alot of people here - Tim ONeil rally school has a great reputaion.

If you are serious about learning to drive high performance cars safely - this is the best present you could get.

An STi without the nessecary experience is like a loaded gun when you have no idea about guns. They could both easily kill you and your friends.

Just remember - whatever you friends tell you - a driver is someone who understands car dynamics and can control a car - a moron is someone who can put his right foot on the floor and has the stupidity to keep it there until they are beyond their ability to control the car.
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Old 10-30-2001, 07:01 PM   #20
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Just noticed the San Diego CA - you are in La Jolla right ?

I work down on Fay Avenue opposite Vons ;-)
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Old 10-30-2001, 10:23 PM   #21
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I realy want an STi:

I am going to have to agree with alot of the people here about this. Your parents have the means to buy a car like the RSX or STi for you, great, that's between you and them. What I really want to tell you is that the STi really is WAY TOO MUCH car for you at this EXACT point. Even the RSX is alot of car for someone your age.

Saying that, it wasn't too long ago when I was 16 and got my first car, a 1985 Subaru Station Wagon. I still have that car, in fact it is my rally beater.. Back then, I did things with it that had I tried with even my RS I would have been dead. You see, the 85 was way to slow to get in to real trouble.. If I had my RS when I was 16, I can pretty much ALMOST guarantee I would have wrecked it in that important first year of driving- I was inexperienced and tried things I shouldn't have. Maybe you are different, but I think the majority of 16-17 year olds get a little stupid behind the wheel.

I agree with Uncle Git, the best graduation present you can possibly recieve is professional advanced drivers instruction- I offer up that if you recieve that now and start going to autocrosses and such- you MIGHT be ready and experienced enough for an STi when you graduate.

As for if you should mod your RSX? If I were in your situation, I would spend that money on the aformentioned items so that you can possibly be ready when the STi comes. In the meantime, have fun learning in your RSX. Only YOU can make sure if you are ready or not for a true high-performance car.


BTW, do not be surprised if the STi shows up next fall, you might have to wait a couple of model-years...


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Old 10-30-2001, 10:28 PM   #22
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does anyone have any opinions onhow nissans new fairlady Z that is coming out will compare to the sti? not an rally terms but on performence.
and, hey, thanks for all the advice, i am going to see about the driving school
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Old 10-30-2001, 10:32 PM   #23
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Default Old geezer here,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Let's just say im old enough to have a son ,17 yrs old, that drives.lol. The last thing I would buy him would be an STI version of anything.Unless i wanted him dead.As others have stated thats way to much car fr a kid.My son learned on and drove our old Legacy beater fr a yr and did well.1 yr latter he saved his dough and got an older stock(cherry lol) Celica gt .He's like me a motorhead,but he still drives without the exsperiance of seat time.Power is neat to have but you gotta respect it.
Around here all the well off kids get brand new Jeep Wranglers as 16th BD gifts .Id like a dollar fr evry one thats rolled one.
Enough said by Dad
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Old 10-30-2001, 11:46 PM   #24
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The true US spec. of Fairlady Z and STi are still unknown. Z is nice looking and should have 260+hp. US STi should have 260+ too.

What do you mean by performance?
Going fast in straight? Rally term is a kind of performance too you know.

Performance is just an assistance to a driver's skill. If you don't have the skill then you'd get beaten anyway no matter what performance you have, if not in straight then in corners.

Stop blindly chasing after car performance, unless you just want a car to show off.
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Old 10-30-2001, 11:53 PM   #25
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well, im thinkin the new z will have more potential, cause its got the same hp with no turbo, and if you put a turbo on it it will spool up soooo fast! plus i dont think street handeling will be too bad at all, seems to me like it wil be like the supra is now.
by the way, is it a big car?
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