Kumho Ecsta ASX or Pirelli P-Zero Nero M&S?

Ryeeno · 06-22-2006, 04:11 PM

I've narrow an all-season tire purchase to one of these tires. I see lots of positive write ups for each. I'm sure people here have used either of these tires so I'm hoping you won't mind helping my purchase decision.

Are the Pirelli's worth the extra cost?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: I just found a thread on the big board that asked the same question so I think I'm good. Pirelli's it is! Now I'm broke!

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GlobalWaste · 06-22-2006, 04:16 PM

cant go wrong with the pirelli's... don't know much about the asx...

Ryeeno · 06-22-2006, 04:39 PM

Yeah. And the sale at tiretrends made it too hard to resist. $186 per tire compared to $320 per at Big-O.

rekondyte · 06-22-2006, 04:42 PM

tires it what moves ur subaru, technically

Spy · 06-22-2006, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rekondyte

tires it what moves ur subaru, technically

my subaru can move without tires... altho i wont try tho

Azn-Jap STI · 06-22-2006, 10:06 PM

p zero...

ghostfoot7 · 06-23-2006, 02:29 AM

I just picked up pirelli's from tirerack. $138 USD shipped to point roberts. $96 duty charges.

Handling has improved a ton... have yet to break traction... I love em!

Scooby fan · 06-23-2006, 02:38 AM

I went with the Kuhmo ASX......225/45/17 on my 2002 RS....then switched them onto my '06 LegacyGT Sedan......great tires.
Lots of complaints about "Wandering" "Tramlining" with the Pirellis.....got to www.legacygt.com and do a search about that.
Go to OK Tire on Kingsway and talk to Steve....he sells them both and is really BIG on the ASX.

Ryeeno · 06-23-2006, 10:03 AM

Too late! Pirelli's on the way to TireTrends. $186. Not as good as the US deal but slightly less hassle.

I read about the wandering but it seems like it was all the California people who it was effecting because of their freeways. I guess I will know next week.

alan ling · 06-23-2006, 11:26 AM

I like my P-Neros. Don't find any wandering and am on the highway a lot. Not a lot of noise from them either.

Podman · 06-23-2006, 11:34 AM

I've had ASXs (235/40/17) on my car for about 15K miles and love them so far! No problems whatsoever.

semaj · 06-23-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostfoot7

I just picked up pirelli's from tirerack. $138 USD shipped to point roberts. $96 duty charges.

Handling has improved a ton... have yet to break traction... I love em!

How did you do the shipping to Pt. Roberts??? Do you have a PO Box there???

5 Zigen · 06-23-2006, 05:56 PM

i have ASX on my dad's Legacy wagon for almost 2 years, no complaint at all and i do drive hard on those tires

i have installed many sets on diff cars, quite a few sets on GC and i love them...better value than Dunlop SP5000 / P Zero Nero...and it works almost as good (it's not good to break the limit of those tires cuz most likely u have already over-driven the car)...

i can get decent deal, feel free to pm me for what u can get and i can see if my friend can work on that

gireland · 06-23-2006, 06:07 PM

I've bought a few sets of Kumho's from tiretrends in the past and for the price, they are tough to beat. Great wear, and tons of grip.

ASX's will be my next purchase once the crappy stock potenza's wear down.

ghostfoot7 · 06-24-2006, 03:01 AM

I read in subiesport mag that the Kumho's are pretty good, not as good as Pirelli's but a fair bit cheaper, which is nice if you plan on autocrossing. My friend's got Pirelli's 235 on his RX8 and he's done 2 track days.. finds them really good, although wearing now!

Lantec · 06-24-2006, 03:09 AM

How are the noise levels on the ASXs?

Scooby fan · 06-24-2006, 10:39 AM

ASXs are probably the quietest of all the "Performance all season" tires out there. I ran Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for quite a while and they are a good deal louder than ASX's. Pirellis and Toyos are equally loud. My ASXs are even quieter than RE-92s.

Lantec · 06-24-2006, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby fan

ASXs are probably the quietest of all the "Performance all season" tires out there. I ran Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for quite a while and they are a good deal louder than ASX's. Pirellis and Toyos are equally loud. My ASXs are even quieter than RE-92s.

Nice.. I should look into that for my next set...

wrx-rex · 09-06-2006, 12:37 PM

I just bought a set of P-Zero Nero's from Volco @ $185 each. (plus $7 mounting) So far, I'm quite pleased....but I haven't really broken them in yet.

AA traction rating...I've never seen that, I thought it was A B or C. Also the 400 Treadwear rating is also quite good IMO.

Bleevin · 09-06-2006, 06:11 PM

I don't suppose anyone has tried or know someone using the Yokohama Advan S4 All season tires?

wrx-rex · 09-06-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleevin

I don't suppose anyone has tried or know someone using the Yokohama Advan S4 All season tires?

Good luck, these are very new tires, I tried searching for reviews of these with very little luck.

Scooby fan · 09-06-2006, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrx-rex

I just bought a set of P-Zero Nero's from Volco @ $185 each. (plus $7 mounting) So far, I'm quite pleased....but I haven't really broken them in yet.

AA traction rating...I've never seen that, I thought it was A B or C. Also the 400 Treadwear rating is also quite good IMO.

Double A rating "AA" is the highest traction rating and refers to "Wet traction".....they are about the same as "A" in the dry, but are considerabley better in wet conditions and snow.

Any tire with Traction "AA" , Temperateure "A" and a wear rating around or over 400 is a great street tire and will last a relatively long time depending on how your treat them.

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S = AA - A - 400 and Kuhmo ASX = AA - A - 420

FunkMasta · 09-06-2006, 07:02 PM

well... my rims are too small for pirelli's...

so my next tires will be asx's.

Penphoe · 09-06-2006, 07:41 PM

If you find that your car is tramlining after a wheel/tire (or simply a tire) change, then check your alignment. I found that when I changed to my 17" wheels on my stock alignment, the car tramlined quite a bit. Once I had an alignment done on my car, the tramlining all but disappeared! It made the car much more enjoyable to drive since the car went where I wanted it to go, and I didn't have to fight the road.

LaterZ!
Darren!!

Eric M · 09-06-2006, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby fan

I went with the Kuhmo ASX......225/45/17 on my 2002 RS....then switched them onto my '06 LegacyGT Sedan......great tires.
Lots of complaints about "Wandering" "Tramlining" with the Pirellis.....got to www.legacygt.com and do a search about that.
Go to OK Tire on Kingsway and talk to Steve....he sells them both and is really BIG on the ASX.

I got those Kuhmo's on my rs, there alright tires, but theres nothing to complain about compared to the price for it.

06-22-2006, 04:11 PM	#1
Ryeeno Scooby Specialist Member#: 117161 Join Date: Jun 2006 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Burnaby Vehicle: '02 WRB WRX '10 Forester XT	Kumho Ecsta ASX or Pirelli P-Zero Nero M&S? I've narrow an all-season tire purchase to one of these tires. I see lots of positive write ups for each. I'm sure people here have used either of these tires so I'm hoping you won't mind helping my purchase decision. Are the Pirelli's worth the extra cost? Any input would be greatly appreciated. EDIT: I just found a thread on the big board that asked the same question so I think I'm good. Pirelli's it is! Now I'm broke! * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by Ryeeno; 06-22-2006 at 04:16 PM.

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