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Old 06-22-2006, 04:11 PM   #1
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Default Kumho Ecsta ASX or Pirelli P-Zero Nero M&S?

I've narrow an all-season tire purchase to one of these tires. I see lots of positive write ups for each. I'm sure people here have used either of these tires so I'm hoping you won't mind helping my purchase decision.

Are the Pirelli's worth the extra cost?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: I just found a thread on the big board that asked the same question so I think I'm good. Pirelli's it is! Now I'm broke!
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:16 PM   #2
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cant go wrong with the pirelli's... don't know much about the asx...
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:39 PM   #3
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Yeah. And the sale at tiretrends made it too hard to resist. $186 per tire compared to $320 per at Big-O.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:42 PM   #4
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tires it what moves ur subaru, technically
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:19 PM   #5
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tires it what moves ur subaru, technically
my subaru can move without tires... altho i wont try tho
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Old 06-22-2006, 10:06 PM   #6
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p zero...
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:29 AM   #7
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I just picked up pirelli's from tirerack. $138 USD shipped to point roberts. $96 duty charges.

Handling has improved a ton... have yet to break traction... I love em!
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:38 AM   #8
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I went with the Kuhmo ASX......225/45/17 on my 2002 RS....then switched them onto my '06 LegacyGT Sedan......great tires.
Lots of complaints about "Wandering" "Tramlining" with the Pirellis.....got to www.legacygt.com and do a search about that.
Go to OK Tire on Kingsway and talk to Steve....he sells them both and is really BIG on the ASX.
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Old 06-23-2006, 10:03 AM   #9
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Too late! Pirelli's on the way to TireTrends. $186. Not as good as the US deal but slightly less hassle.

I read about the wandering but it seems like it was all the California people who it was effecting because of their freeways. I guess I will know next week.
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Old 06-23-2006, 11:26 AM   #10
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I like my P-Neros. Don't find any wandering and am on the highway a lot. Not a lot of noise from them either.
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Old 06-23-2006, 11:34 AM   #11
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I've had ASXs (235/40/17) on my car for about 15K miles and love them so far! No problems whatsoever.
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Old 06-23-2006, 03:27 PM   #12
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I just picked up pirelli's from tirerack. $138 USD shipped to point roberts. $96 duty charges.

Handling has improved a ton... have yet to break traction... I love em!
How did you do the shipping to Pt. Roberts??? Do you have a PO Box there???
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Old 06-23-2006, 05:56 PM   #13
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i have ASX on my dad's Legacy wagon for almost 2 years, no complaint at all and i do drive hard on those tires

i have installed many sets on diff cars, quite a few sets on GC and i love them...better value than Dunlop SP5000 / P Zero Nero...and it works almost as good (it's not good to break the limit of those tires cuz most likely u have already over-driven the car)...

i can get decent deal, feel free to pm me for what u can get and i can see if my friend can work on that
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Old 06-23-2006, 06:07 PM   #14
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I've bought a few sets of Kumho's from tiretrends in the past and for the price, they are tough to beat. Great wear, and tons of grip.


ASX's will be my next purchase once the crappy stock potenza's wear down.
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Old 06-24-2006, 03:01 AM   #15
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I read in subiesport mag that the Kumho's are pretty good, not as good as Pirelli's but a fair bit cheaper, which is nice if you plan on autocrossing. My friend's got Pirelli's 235 on his RX8 and he's done 2 track days.. finds them really good, although wearing now!
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Old 06-24-2006, 03:09 AM   #16
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How are the noise levels on the ASXs?
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Old 06-24-2006, 10:39 AM   #17
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ASXs are probably the quietest of all the "Performance all season" tires out there. I ran Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for quite a while and they are a good deal louder than ASX's. Pirellis and Toyos are equally loud. My ASXs are even quieter than RE-92s.
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Old 06-24-2006, 01:26 PM   #18
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ASXs are probably the quietest of all the "Performance all season" tires out there. I ran Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for quite a while and they are a good deal louder than ASX's. Pirellis and Toyos are equally loud. My ASXs are even quieter than RE-92s.



Nice.. I should look into that for my next set...
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Old 09-06-2006, 12:37 PM   #19
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I just bought a set of P-Zero Nero's from Volco @ $185 each. (plus $7 mounting) So far, I'm quite pleased....but I haven't really broken them in yet.

AA traction rating...I've never seen that, I thought it was A B or C. Also the 400 Treadwear rating is also quite good IMO.
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Old 09-06-2006, 06:11 PM   #20
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I don't suppose anyone has tried or know someone using the Yokohama Advan S4 All season tires?
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I don't suppose anyone has tried or know someone using the Yokohama Advan S4 All season tires?
Good luck, these are very new tires, I tried searching for reviews of these with very little luck.
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Old 09-06-2006, 06:58 PM   #22
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I just bought a set of P-Zero Nero's from Volco @ $185 each. (plus $7 mounting) So far, I'm quite pleased....but I haven't really broken them in yet.

AA traction rating...I've never seen that, I thought it was A B or C. Also the 400 Treadwear rating is also quite good IMO.
Double A rating "AA" is the highest traction rating and refers to "Wet traction".....they are about the same as "A" in the dry, but are considerabley better in wet conditions and snow.

Any tire with Traction "AA" , Temperateure "A" and a wear rating around or over 400 is a great street tire and will last a relatively long time depending on how your treat them.

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S = AA - A - 400 and Kuhmo ASX = AA - A - 420
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Old 09-06-2006, 07:02 PM   #23
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well... my rims are too small for pirelli's...

so my next tires will be asx's.
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Old 09-06-2006, 07:41 PM   #24
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If you find that your car is tramlining after a wheel/tire (or simply a tire) change, then check your alignment. I found that when I changed to my 17" wheels on my stock alignment, the car tramlined quite a bit. Once I had an alignment done on my car, the tramlining all but disappeared! It made the car much more enjoyable to drive since the car went where I wanted it to go, and I didn't have to fight the road.

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I went with the Kuhmo ASX......225/45/17 on my 2002 RS....then switched them onto my '06 LegacyGT Sedan......great tires.
Lots of complaints about "Wandering" "Tramlining" with the Pirellis.....got to www.legacygt.com and do a search about that.
Go to OK Tire on Kingsway and talk to Steve....he sells them both and is really BIG on the ASX.


I got those Kuhmo's on my rs, there alright tires, but theres nothing to complain about compared to the price for it.
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