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Old 09-08-2006, 02:21 PM   #1
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Default Trial thread here before I head over to SpecialStage.com

My wife actually proposed this idea the other day, and I think it has potential. She suggested that RallyBC work the cost of purchasing carbon-offset credits into the entry fee for events. The cost is actually quite reasonable (go to http://www.cooldrivepass.com/) - it would cost ~$120 to offset the emissions for my car for one year (20,000km) of driving - so the average additional cost (to each car) for one event, of, say, 10 cars driving 400 km would be ~$2.

It would, of course, be largely symbolic, but I think it would be great PR for the club.

I realize that this is a rather politically sensitive issue (particularly among gearheads!), which is why I want to float the idea here before I get my ass flamed on SpecialStage for proposing it.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:42 PM   #2
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Honestly, I have no idea what the point of that pass is, I read through the site and I'm still confused..

the only thing I've figured out is that they think I take an "average of 9.86 liters of gas per 100km" which is pretty optimistic

I think my best tank of gas was about 450kms on about 55litres of fuel which turns out to be around 12litres per 100km

so you pay for roughly the amount of damage they think you cause the environment so you can get a sticker saying you support the environment? That's it?

it doesn't seem like they've really accomplished much or have much in terms of long term plans...
"Installing efficient lighting in households in South Africa
Biogass Digesters to save the tigers' habitat in India
Efficient cooking stoves in Bangladesh and Madagascar"

uhh..
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:47 PM   #3
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Honestly, I have no idea what the point of that pass is, I read through the site and I'm still confused..

the only thing I've figured out is that they think I take an "average of 9.86 liters of gas per 100km" which is pretty optimistic

I think my best tank of gas was about 450kms on about 55litres of fuel which turns out to be around 12litres per 100km

so you pay for roughly the amount of damage they think you cause the environment so you can get a sticker saying you support the environment? That's it?

From their FAQ:
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A “carbon offset” is an emission reduction credit from a project that results in less carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases emitted in the atmosphere than would otherwise occur. There are various kinds of offset projects such as tree planting or reforestation, building retrofits (i.e. installing more efficient heating/cooling systems) and renewable energy projects such as ground source heat pumps or wind power. The common goal of all such projects is to reduce fossil fuel usage, which in turn, eliminates harmful greenhouse gas emissions.
Basically, you pay them to invest in projects that offset (absorb) an amount of CO2 equivalent to whatever your car emits, thus (in theory) making your driving activities carbon-neutral.

It's partly a feel-good thing, but I think it would make for some interesting PR for a performance-oriented car club such as RallyBC.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:46 PM   #4
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I get it, so this way people won't look at Rally enthusiasts as a detriment to the environment, thus hopefully making it more appealing to the general public
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:48 PM   #5
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I get it, so this way people won't look at Rally enthusiasts as a detriment to the environment, thus hopefully making it more appealing to the general public
Exactly. And any publicity for the club is good publicity - especially when it's good publicity.
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:03 PM   #6
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looks like a scam to me.
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:11 PM   #7
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looks like a scam to me.
honestly, it looks like a scam to me too, especially looking at a list of their accomplishments which I put in my first post, and you'd have no idea where they were investing your money, or if it was in fact invested at all..

and the lightbulbs they got for S.Africa? they could light up all of South Africa if they were buying at warehouse prices for the price of 2 or 3 people's yearly pass

but then again, I perceive a lot of charities as scams

anyhow, in the end.... publicity is publicity...

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Old 09-09-2006, 02:45 PM   #8
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there is only one way to effectively offset the CO. Say you spend X$ a year on gas. Drive half as much and give the other half of the gas money to GHG mitigation projects. The rest is just feel good BS an not sustainable at all. Total f'd up BS.

If EVERYONE purchased full CO credits for ALL their developed world cosumption we'd still be going down the carbon dioxide tubes FASTER than your STI with a reflash.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:50 PM   #9
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If EVERYONE purchased full CO credits for ALL their developed world cosumption we'd still be going down the carbon dioxide tubes FASTER than your STI with a reflash.
can the STI have a nice tuboback exhaust too?
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:41 PM   #10
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No, from the sound of things (Queue Subaru rumble) we'd better leave the cats in! Well, maybe take out the one in the uppipe.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:44 PM   #11
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No, from the sound of things (Queue Subaru rumble) we'd better leave the cats in! Well, maybe take out the one in the uppipe.
STI's don't have cats in teh up-pipe, only dogs.
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