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Old 09-10-2006, 01:52 PM   #1
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Just had the kit installed and the power is on cause the green light is blinking .Its installed by activating the boost and still the green light blinks.Do i have to download a program for this to work? Another question is where do i mount my clog detector.Thanks.
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Old 09-10-2006, 02:46 PM   #2
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If you have just the controller with the Green (low) gray and Red (high) knobs the green light flashes slow a few times on startup then it flashes fast until you turn the car off. This just indicates that the system is activated.
You may want to do a simple test to ensure you have water running through the system.
Disconnect your hose running to the injector and use a tie strip to tie it to the windshield washer. Now play with your commander and get a good feel how it works. You do not need to plug the injector nozzle when you do this test. You should see spray on your windshield. It may take a few minutes to get the system purged just keep that in mind.
There is no software ofor the commander controller alone, but if you have an IPAQ Pocket PC you can purchase different software and activate dif. features connecting it to your commander.
I do not have my directions here to tell you where the clog nozle detector goes, simply look at your install direction, it is fairly easy.
Do not run alky/meth 100% until you get a tune, you can run water though it will bring your internal temp down quite a bit.

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Just had the kit installed and the power is on cause the green light is blinking .Its installed by activating the boost and still the green light blinks.Do i have to download a program for this to work? Another question is where do i mount my clog detector.Thanks.
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:10 PM   #3
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Just had the kit installed and the power is on cause the green light is blinking .Its installed by activating the boost and still the green light blinks.Do i have to download a program for this to work? Another question is where do i mount my clog detector.Thanks.
On the version 1 flash for the controller the light will blink slow when power connects to the unit. It blinks slow for a few seconds, then it blinks fast. When you are in boost it blinks fast. It will never go solid. The slow blink means its checking the circuitry, the fast blink means the controller has done its self check.

On the version 2 controller the system will do the same thing, but when your boost hits the minimum setting on the controller the unit will go solid. The version 2 units just recently started shipping.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:30 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info i will have to check this out .When i get this purged and running correct what should i have my min and max set at with the water?Hopefully i'll have it tuned in a month or so.Thanks
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:25 AM   #5
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Try your minimum around 9-10 psi and your max you should play with along with the center switch. What you want to do is adjust the max until you get a hesitation or the car doesnt feel right.
With my mods I maxed out the stock injector and had to up it to the #16 injection size. With your mods I would say at 7-9 you should get some hesitation. Once you get the hesitation back it off one or two notches.
You can also control some of the hesitation with the little gray center switch.
Monitor your EGT's and give your engine a nice break of normal driving between your test pulls.

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Thanks for the info i will have to check this out .When i get this purged and running correct what should i have my min and max set at with the water?Hopefully i'll have it tuned in a month or so.Thanks
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Old 09-12-2006, 04:33 PM   #6
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I dont have an egt so maybe i'll just make sure it works and wait till i get tuned.Thanks guys
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Old 09-12-2006, 10:10 PM   #7
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I would not tune my car without an EGT gauge. If I were my next mod would be an EGTgauge. Thats my opinion and I know not everyone has one, but I would def. get one as soon as I can.
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I dont have an egt so maybe i'll just make sure it works and wait till i get tuned.Thanks guys
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Old 09-13-2006, 04:47 PM   #8
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I was thinking about that and a a/f guage as well.Thanks
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:22 PM   #9
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You do not need an AF gauge unless you are getting a wideband sensor. AF guages are just light shows. Save your $ for something else that will actually help you.

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I was thinking about that and a a/f guage as well.Thanks
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:59 PM   #10
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The Min Knob = boost level that water stayts spraying
the max knob = boost level that water stops spraying at
the grey knob in the center = lowers and raises pressure of spray from nozzle

Is this right?
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:12 PM   #11
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Incorrect. The min knob is indeed when the injection starts. The max knob is where the injection will be at 100% of the pumps selected duty cycle. The center knob selects the duty cycle percentage allowed. Tough to follow this at first. The default setting is with the tune knob on number one this will give a pump duty cycle of 25% and 10 will give 100% so from 1-10 tune knob setting covers from 25-100% pump duty cycle.
These figures can be changed with a laptop so you could make tune knob setting number one to be 50% instead so then 1-10 would cover from 50-100%. In addition the default feed in setting is linear. So if you have the min knob set at 10 PSI and the Max at 20PSI at 15PSI you will be using 50% of the selected duty cycle settings of the pump. But of course you can then change the feed in curve as well LOL. I think I have this all correct anybody care to add to this or make any corrections on me?
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Old 09-20-2006, 07:33 PM   #12
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Is there a way you can explaint he duty cycle better?
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:25 PM   #13
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BUMP for controller explanation!
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:31 AM   #14
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Uh I can try. The middle knob controls how much it is spraying when it first comes on at the min setting.
The duty cycle % is just how hard the pump is working compared to its max output.

If I understand correctly:
For example: Your min is 10psi and your max is 20psi.

Set on the default 1, when you get to 10psi the pump comes on at 25% of its max flow. Then as boost increases to 20psi the flow of the pump increases linearly to 100% of what it can put out.

So every 1psi increase above 10psi would increase the flow 7.5% of the pumps max.

11psi = 32.5% 12=40% 13psi=47.5% and so on.

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The middle knob makes it possible to change the duty% at the min psi.

1=25% 10=100%, so i'm guessing each number increases it by 8.33%

If you set it on 10 then when you hit the min 10psi the pump would come on and pump 100%
If you set it on 6 then when you hit the min 10psi the pump would come on and pump 66.66% of its max.
And increase 3.33% per psi above 10psi.
If you set it on 3 then when you hit the min 10psi the pump would come on and pump 41.66% of its max.
And increase 5.83% per psi above 10psi.
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ALSO It is possible to change how the duty% increases although I dont know how (WI is only a dream for me.<---discount for tech support please coolingmist?) Probably connect it to a computer. So instead of increasing at a steady rate, you could change it to increase quickly at first then gradually increase slower. Or whatever you want.

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