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Old 04-13-2015, 02:56 PM   #1
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Okay, so I recently started driving a Bugeye WRX (2002) and I am looking to do a few things to it.

I have Perrin Side Mount Fuel Rails with Denso 850cc Injectors that I have not put on yet

Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Bigger TMIC
Tomei Turboback Exhaust W/ Full Apexi N1 Cat Back Exhaust
Cobb V3 Tuner (Will be here tomorrow 4/14/15)
STi Turbo (Not sure what year would like to know which year STi turbo's fit on a 2002 WRX)
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So my main question here is would a TD06 20G bolt on to my WRX with no modifications. Also would this be an ideal turbo for my future goal of 400+ awhp when I eventually add Pistons, cams, lifters, & risers with a 20 psi tune?
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:42 PM   #2
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Stick to the newb section and read all the stickies at least twice. Stop buying parts your bros tell you to buy and research more, a lot more.

To answer your question yes it will bolt right up. Make 400whp on a 2.0, no way.
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:55 PM   #3
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Stick to the newb section and read all the stickies at least twice. Stop buying parts your bros tell you to buy and research more, a lot more.

To answer your question yes it will bolt right up. Make 400whp on a 2.0, no way.
400awhp is very possible I have disscussed a 400 awhp build with internals.
All he did was pistons, cams, lifters, risers, and header. Easily made 400 on 25 psi safely.
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:56 PM   #4
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Stick to the newb section and read all the stickies at least twice. Stop buying parts your bros tell you to buy and research more, a lot more.

To answer your question yes it will bolt right up. Make 400whp on a 2.0, no way.
And these are actually the parts I want which is a 20g which isn't uncommon in a Subaru...
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:00 PM   #5
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Okay, so I recently started driving a Bugeye WRX (2002) and I am looking to do a few things to it.

I have Perrin Side Mount Fuel Rails with Denso 850cc Injectors that I have not put on yet

Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Bigger TMIC
Tomei Turboback Exhaust W/ Full Apexi N1 Cat Back Exhaust
Cobb V3 Tuner (Will be here tomorrow 4/14/15)
STi Turbo (Not sure what year would like to know which year STi turbo's fit on a 2002 WRX)
Short Shifter
Unequal Headers

So my main question here is would a TD06 20G bolt on to my WRX with no modifications. Also would this be an ideal turbo for my future goal of 400+ awhp when I eventually add Pistons, cams, lifters, & risers with a 20 psi tune?

Sounds like a solid plan. Looks like you did all the appropriate research. But make sure you get those lifters and risers sorted out. That could make or break the motor for sure.

Good luck and Godspeed.

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Old 04-13-2015, 05:23 PM   #6
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Why are you changing to side feed injectors?

Lifters and risers? You do realize that an 02 has shim over buckets? Do you mean you want shimless buckets?
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:47 PM   #7
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So my main question here is would a TD06 20G bolt on to my WRX with no modifications.
Depends on what you mean by no modification. Obviously it will require injectors,pump, ECU retune ect. But you cannot just bolt in any old TD06-20G. It has to be specifically flangged for Subaru. An d depending on the compressor inlet size you might need a new turbo inlet pipe.
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:34 PM   #8
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And why are you putting on unequal length headers? It already has those....
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:54 AM   #9
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somebody knows NOTHING about anything

and is gonna build a short lived rice bomb that wont ever drive worth a ****
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:48 PM   #10
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And why are you putting on unequal length headers? It already has those....
I have aftermarket ones the previous owner installed
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:50 PM   #11
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somebody knows NOTHING about anything

and is gonna build a short lived rice bomb that wont ever drive worth a ****
You seem very fustrated, learn some manners won't you? I'm 17 and at the moment I am being more mature then you. Haha
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:51 PM   #12
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Someone with some postive vibes
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:53 PM   #13
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somebody knows NOTHING about anything

and is gonna build a short lived rice bomb that wont ever drive worth a ****
And I believe the rice bombs are the civics buddy, if you consider these vehicles a rice burn I really do not know how you are a "Scooby Guru".
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:05 PM   #14
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You seem very fustrated, learn some manners won't you? I'm 17 and at the moment I am being more mature then you. Haha
Ahhhhhh. That explains it.

And Uncle Scotty is not calling all Subarus rice bombs. Only those that are riced out. You seem to be heading in that direction.

Most of us have been in your situation- we are young and want a loud, fast, cool ride. But take it slow. Drive the stock car for a bit; I promise you it is probably more than you can handle right now. Get a feel for what is going on and focus on upgrading maintenance/wear parts. Then if you have some spare cash, slowly start to add some upgrades. Don't just jump in head first and try to build your engine to make 400whp.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:50 PM   #15
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You have read zero of the sticky threads at the top of this forum. Get off your phone, go to a real PC and perform REAL research. How I know you haven't:

1. You are posting from a phone.
2. You think 400 WHP is possible from a 20G turbo.

You have much to learn or if your pockets are deep, you will learn some expensive lessons. 400 is possible on a 2.0L car, but the price you won't like as you are talking $10,000 minimum.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:57 PM   #16
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You have read zero of the sticky threads at the top of this forum. Get off your phone, go to a real PC and perform REAL research. How I know you haven't:

1. You are posting from a phone.
2. You think 400 WHP is possible from a 20G turbo.

You have much to learn or if your pockets are deep, you will learn some expensive lessons. 400 is possible on a 2.0L car, but the price you won't like as you are talking $10,000 minimum.

You're acting like an idiot again... 400hp not possible in a 20g!? Lmao think again man! How old are you 80? Learn about modern turbo chargers man. You can easily make 400hp in. 2.0L with under $4,000... I on my 2.5 with less than $2,500.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:58 PM   #17
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Let me also disclose I did all the work myself, except the etune. And Iv been running for 25k miles strong, just hit 100k miles.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:47 PM   #18
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17 and gonna build a s000baru.......bad idea
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You're acting like an idiot again... 400hp not possible in a 20g!? Lmao think again man! How old are you 80? Learn about modern turbo chargers man. You can easily make 400hp in. 2.0L with under $4,000... I on my 2.5 with less than $2,500.
400whp, on an engine you don't have. But please, inform of us of what you have done to make that power on your 2.5.
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Okay, so I recently started driving a Bugeye WRX (2002) and I am looking to do a few things to it.

I have Perrin Side Mount Fuel Rails with Denso 850cc Injectors that I have not put on yet

Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Bigger TMIC
Tomei Turboback Exhaust W/ Full Apexi N1 Cat Back Exhaust
Cobb V3 Tuner (Will be here tomorrow 4/14/15)
STi Turbo (Not sure what year would like to know which year STi turbo's fit on a 2002 WRX)
Short Shifter
Unequal Headers

So my main question here is would a TD06 20G bolt on to my WRX with no modifications. Also would this be an ideal turbo for my future goal of 400+ awhp when I eventually add Pistons, cams, lifters, & risers with a 20 psi tune?
You don't want side feeds, keep your top feed injectors and rails. Buy 1000cc injectors at least for 400whp cause you will need E85. A bigger fuel pump or a dual pumper would be better, a swirl pot setup would be best. Go fmic, stop playing around with tmic. And I think you mean you have a Tomei dp and a Apexi cat back? Cobb may or may not support your 02 with what you need to make the ****ty ecu actually work for that much power. Way to blow 700 bucks for nothing. STI turbo won't come near your power goals, but the vf39 and vf34 will bolt directly up. And you want equal length headers to help spool the medium (I said it) sized turbo that you will need to make that power, get a gt3076 or larger.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:27 AM   #21
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You don't want side feeds, keep your top feed injectors and rails. Buy 1000cc injectors at least for 400whp cause you will need E85. A bigger fuel pump or a dual pumper would be better, a swirl pot setup would be best. Go fmic, stop playing around with tmic. And I think you mean you have a Tomei dp and a Apexi cat back? Cobb may or may not support your 02 with what you need to make the ****ty ecu actually work for that much power. Way to blow 700 bucks for nothing. STI turbo won't come near your power goals, but the vf39 and vf34 will bolt directly up. And you want equal length headers to help spool the medium (I said it) sized turbo that you will need to make that power, get a gt3076 or larger.
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You're acting like an idiot again... 400hp not possible in a 20g!? Lmao think again man! How old are you 80? Learn about modern turbo chargers man. You can easily make 400hp in. 2.0L with under $4,000... I on my 2.5 with less than $2,500.
Let me plain with you without any malice. Do a search in the Power Proven Bragging forum for "20G and WRX" and SEE what the dyno plots say. Many of the results will be littered with hybrid builds and later 2.5L cars, but here's a good general idea: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2315308

When you see that you are wrong, I'll be expecting an apology. This forum isn't personal....it's about helping and you have no fathomable idea what a 20G is or the capabilities of it.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:26 PM   #23
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not on a ej205 but a 207 with a 20G-xtr (still a 20G)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...8&postcount=63
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Old 04-16-2015, 12:00 AM   #24
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not on a ej205
then NOT relevant to this discussion
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:05 AM   #25
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not on a ej205 but a 207 with a 20G-xtr (still a 20G)

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...8&postcount=63
wow that dyno plot is very impressive and does indeed prove without a doubt that a 20g makes 400 hp on a 2.0l, what a great find.

look I found another definitive result of 400+hp with a 20g & 2.0l

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