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Old 02-22-2009, 02:24 PM   #351
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well i was going to buy this myself but I got a different set up.

I have pics in my email of the dash if anyone is interested and cluster is additional $300

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

its $4800 obo plus $950 freight to a nearest port.

That's not a bad deal at all. I got mine with all the "not included" stuff for about $3k more back in 2006. Mine wasn't a clip though, just a whole pallet of stuff (spec-c ra model though). But for someone wanting a nice easy swap this is just about as cheap as you can go. Heck, you could buy this, split it up and probably make money by reselling!!
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:01 AM   #352
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well I have been keeping up with this thread for a while, and always wanted a 207, and the other day i picked up a ver8 207 complete block and heads for 200, i will nee a new avcs sensor, and have to put in a set of pistons, but other than that i will need an intake. i have been concidering head work, and +1mm valves, but not sure yet. Hopefully i will have it finished and ready to go in the car this summer, and will be running a vf37 with a 20g wheel, hoping for around 350whp+
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:04 AM   #353
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If you need help with that motor you can contact Ron at Raw performance.

Its a great motor. My favorite in fact. The VF37 turbine section probably wont crack that much power. IT really starts to choke at 300whp. But, should have a broad power band!

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Old 03-03-2009, 12:35 AM   #354
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well i know the owner that had it before put down 330whp with it, and i will have an EWG, not sure how much that will help, and he was running stock IWG, so i didnt think 20WHP would be that big of a jump. i hear your a great tunner, and love your ability to tune avcs, i may be coming to you to tune it, or get a tune and have you perfect it, but i am going to have patience with this and do it right.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:40 AM   #355
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The compressor will do it.. THe Turbine is going to be the limit. The EX gate will help though!

Let me know if I can help with this conversion! I had my swap down in late 2003 so I have been around this kind of swap for years now.

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Old 03-03-2009, 12:48 AM   #356
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well i will have to use you for your knowledge lol. my biggest thing is going to be hooking up the avcs, i will be using a ver7 jdm ecu, so it should be easier. i tried to PM you, but you dont accept them
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:54 AM   #357
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Call Stephen at IAPerformance.com and order the AVCS harness. It comes new and complete with instructions. It will make your life really easy in hooking this up.. You want the AVCS to work for sure and you want the JDM ecu in the mix.

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Old 03-03-2009, 12:56 AM   #358
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yea thats what i looked up and found, will the ecu just plug and play, then i plug those wires in. and the biggest questiont that i cant find, is the jdm ecu 32bit? because i ahve been wondering will i be able to do a 6speed, and run factory dccd, instead of spiider, and be able to tune such stuff FFS
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:23 AM   #359
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no.. The JDM ecu is the 16bit ecu. The ecu does plug in.. With the AVCS harness you can get the car up and running with the cams working. You wont have FFS or Launch control with this ecu. Its something that I dont see a point in personaly.

The 6mt will go right in.. The DCCD will not work as you will have to wire in a ton of things to make this work as a factory V8 Car. The only thing to do is to get an aftermarket controller. I have never used the spider and i emailed him about testing/trying one out and he agreed. THen I got an invoice for MORE THEN RETAIL for the controller. So, I cannot personaly recomend one as I have not tested or installed one. Others can comment on that.

If you leave the DCCD unhooked, you will have a 65/35 split which is fine for the road, bad on the dyno.



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Old 03-03-2009, 01:27 AM   #360
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yea i herd it is bad on the tranny after a while, and its 500 for the full spiider controller. so wait you cant put launch control on it, like on the USDM wrx? i was kinda looking forward to that, and i will most likely be getting a street tune
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:53 AM   #361
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We might be out of the scope of the thread.. So maybe just email me. Clark@clarkturner.com

You cant run the Launch control on the 16bit ecu. You dont need it though...

Its not hard on the Center diff unless you are doing donuts. LOL..

You will just be rear biased....

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Old 03-03-2009, 07:33 AM   #362
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I have his deluxe controller on my V9 swapped car and it works well. It even interfaces with the cluster and shows where it's putting the power even on Auto mode.

Should be a few days before my rebuilt V9 gets back on the road (Diamond pistons, Eagle Rods, stock compression. Supertech valves (Nitrided intake + Inconel exhaust) and dual valve springs).
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:59 PM   #363
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just wondering how ?
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:14 PM   #364
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There are a bunch of Launch control patches for JDM STi's:
http://tinywrex.x10hosting.com/onlin...ewCat&catId=12
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:57 PM   #365
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have any of yall installed the engine yourselves? are there any problems i should look for? im really looking forward to the smoothness of the engine
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:23 PM   #366
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I did mine in my garage...just have a engine hoist and a friend to give a hand when dropping the engine in place. Its not a hard job, but can be frustrating if your unfamiliar with basic mechanics. An engine load leveler would have come in handy as well, so look into that as oppossed to just using a chain attached to the engine and hoist.

Like Clark said, get the avcs harness, and make sure you have an entire jdm engine harness or you'll play hell trying to make one like I had to do. The difference is nite and day when the avcs is working. It makes the car so muchg easier to drive off boost. Clark is the man when it comes to these conversions, and tuning, so hang on to every word he says and take notes if need be!

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Old 03-03-2009, 07:46 PM   #367
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Trey or Clark - What plugs do you suggest/run with your setups? I just purchased a V7 and thinking of using a TD06 20g w/ 8cm on E85 in the future. Didn't know with the cooler burn on E85 if I should look for a different plug.

Either way......love this thread and look forward to some 207 fun!
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:57 PM   #368
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I also installed mine in a garage of my gf at the time's cousin. Rented the garage from him by giving him the stock motor out of my car. Took me about 3 months of driving 45 minutes one way after work to keep wrenching. I think prior to that the most indepth thing I had done was a suspension swap. But it's not really that hard, everything pretty much lines up and is easy peasy.

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Old 03-03-2009, 09:26 PM   #369
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sweet im hoping to do this in a few months, sometime this summer, now what is this you say about the jdm harness? i saw someone selling a jdm avcs harness, it was for a wrx with avcs, but said it would work with the sti, will it be direct plug and play? i dont know where that plugs too, and i will be getting the avcs harness that plugs into the stocker from IA. and i have worked on many a cars, and replaces a few engines
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:38 PM   #370
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DS1 has a helpful link for the pin outs if you want to wire the AVCS without buying the IAperformance kit.


EDIT: Here is the link
http://www.ds1motorsports.com/images...20document.pdf

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Old 03-03-2009, 09:59 PM   #371
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i actually found it just a few minutes ago, and i think i will be doing that instead of spending 200, but can i use my stock engine harness, or do i need a jdm one
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:31 AM   #372
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I'm running a set of colder HKS plugs in the motor at the moment, but intend to switch back to the one step colder NGK iridiums that I had been running. Not sure on the e85 fuel, I run straight 93 on mine on a 3076 .82 a/r rotated set up right over 23psi. I'm not sure what your after as far as performance goes, but I ran a Blouch 2.5r (basically a hybrid 20g) and found it lacked what I wanted for a motor with big port heads and an 8200 rpm rev limit. Switching from the 2.5r to the rotated 3076 was like making the car transform. Not only does it pull way more up top, but it spools quicker and feels better down low. Ask Clark what he thinks is the best all around turbo set up for one of these motors?! ;o)

Your going to need the engine harness that has the connectors for the avcs cam sensors and solenoids, your standard wrx engine harness will work for the engine, but will not work the avcs system. The correct harness will have the 4 other connectors you need. You can try and get the engine harness from one of the swap shop vendors, or look for someone who went with the ver 8 set up and aftermarket non avcs cams. I'd start looking now, just to have it ready to install under the intake manifold before the motor goes in.

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Old 03-04-2009, 07:58 AM   #373
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sound good, but are you just talking about the avcs wires? if so IA make a PNP kit, but i looked on ds1's website and i should be able to just run wires for it.
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:09 AM   #374
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yeah, if you are good with wiring it's pretty straight-forward
there are only 9 wires if I recall (one of which is shielding, other are for sensors and solenoids)
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I'm running a set of colder HKS plugs in the motor at the moment, but intend to switch back to the one step colder NGK iridiums that I had been running. Not sure on the e85 fuel, I run straight 93 on mine on a 3076 .82 a/r rotated set up right over 23psi. I'm not sure what your after as far as performance goes, but I ran a Blouch 2.5r (basically a hybrid 20g) and found it lacked what I wanted for a motor with big port heads and an 8200 rpm rev limit. Switching from the 2.5r to the rotated 3076 was like making the car transform. Not only does it pull way more up top, but it spools quicker and feels better down low. Ask Clark what he thinks is the best all around turbo set up for one of these motors?! ;o)

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The reason for E85 is simply this......there is tons of it available around me and why not run gas that is very similar to race gas for $1.85 a gallon? I'd love to go with a 3076 but fear that its too cost prohibitive at the moment. Additionally the reason for the 20g is that my heads are not the "big ports" like yours. I have plain vanilla JDM V7 heads which are small ports. The only V7 big ports were on the spec-c. My goal is a responsive circuit track car. I have Mid-Ohio about 1.5-2 hours away.

BTW - Love the reading up on your build and progress Trey. This thread and threads like this is the reason I went with the 207
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