Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Tuesday October 21, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo)

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-16-2012, 07:01 PM   #4626
25rsti
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 166324
Join Date: Dec 2007
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Haverhill, MA
Vehicle:
3 turbos &n NA
@DBlockSTi

Default

IT has had bad luck since I bought the shell. I've been able to get over numerous hurdles to this point, this one has really gotten me though.
Thanks guys for the help. I will keep posted, sorry to side step the 207 thread.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
25rsti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 07:14 PM   #4627
WhiteBgeye02
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 224785
Join Date: Sep 2009
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: neenah
Vehicle:
2005 wrx-jdm207
i went black...

Default

is the car up to temp when you log the advance? those small values are just cam float i guess you could call it or slightly off readings on the cam sensor itself. what version ecu?
WhiteBgeye02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 07:14 PM   #4628
todeswalzer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 191495
Join Date: Oct 2008
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Lowell MA
Vehicle:
'05 WRB GTX3071R
JDM V8 EJ207 USDM 6MT

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 25rsti
IT has had bad luck since I bought the shell. I've been able to get over numerous hurdles to this point, this one has really gotten me though.
Thanks guys for the help. I will keep posted, sorry to side step the 207 thread.
My car was having the same issue yours has now but it was due to the crank shaft position sensor throwing a code. I'd try to start it maybe 50 times and it would finally turn on, with the code now active. Sometimes it would start first try and throw no code. Sometimes I had to rock the car back and forth and then it'd go


Never got it fixed before she blew. Replacing the sensor didn't fix it.


Try rapidly turning the ignition on for a minute straight see if it does anything
todeswalzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 07:25 PM   #4629
25rsti
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 166324
Join Date: Dec 2007
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Haverhill, MA
Vehicle:
3 turbos &n NA
@DBlockSTi

Default

Tried. lol
I've tried many variations. Side note: Did you feel that earthquake over in Lowell? I'm in Haverhill and felt it, it just happened in ME 4.6 crazy. Never felt one before.
25rsti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 07:39 PM   #4630
todeswalzer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 191495
Join Date: Oct 2008
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Lowell MA
Vehicle:
'05 WRB GTX3071R
JDM V8 EJ207 USDM 6MT

Default

I was driving and no. My gf said she did.
todeswalzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 07:57 PM   #4631
simon021
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 157532
Join Date: Aug 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Iowa
Vehicle:
2002 MY03 EJ207 E85
Dom 1.5XTR Twinscroll!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteBgeye02
is the car up to temp when you log the advance? those small values are just cam float i guess you could call it or slightly off readings on the cam sensor itself. what version ecu?
It started working. IAM climbed up to 16 as I accelerated and suddenly I see advance. The car really came alive after the IAM climbed
simon021 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 09:34 PM   #4632
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteBgeye02 View Post
what kinda of spark plug uses plasma lol. way too much for anyone in the USA to buy after money conversion and shipping. might as well buy a jdm engine and spend another 1500 on upgrading parts on it and a nice tune.

http://www.okadaprojects.com/usa/products_direct.htm

ive seen these pop up a couple times on motors for sale.

ive been searching for a spec c and this have been the first one to pop up ive seen in the past month or so. totally agree thats a pretty penny
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 09:48 PM   #4633
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

trying to join the crew.

this auction is listed as:

"Auction is for:

Used Imported JDM Subaru WRX STI 2005 Version 9 Spec C EJ20 Turbo Engine Package!"


Listed as V9 spec C

Tranny code lists as ty856wb6ka whichs lists here as a 2005 sti with DCCD. not a spec c

what do you guys think?
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 10:10 PM   #4634
kpluiten
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 120273
Join Date: Jul 2006
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: AZ
Vehicle:
06 WRBWRXWGN
Now with 100% more Spec-C

Default

That thing will probably go for 8500 or more. And that's just too much in my opinion. A NICE Spec-C motor should run 4000-4500 shipped. A 6MT should be another 2000-2500 on top of that.
kpluiten is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 11:55 PM   #4635
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kpluiten View Post
That thing will probably go for 8500 or more. And that's just too much in my opinion. A NICE Spec-C motor should run 4000-4500 shipped. A 6MT should be another 2000-2500 on top of that.

thanks for a good reply.

i myself would prefer to find a motor first then do a transmission swap down the road as my current motor and transmission are still in working order.

anyone seen a ej207 for sale they recommend?

i would prefer a spec c but seems pretty hard to find. its only going in a daily driver so any v7/v8/v9 would probably work just fine. like most i do like the fact that v7 is forged, but, it seems the v9 puts down more torque with its updated AVCS and i also like the sounds of being twin scroll as well.
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 12:28 AM   #4636
lukeskywrx
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 59837
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Arizona
Vehicle:
2004 Spec-C Type RA
What MAF? -Speed Density!

Default

I got my v9 spec-C from JDM racing motors for ~4500$ shipped to my door in a week, prices fluctuate due to currency exchange rates. They had several spec-c's in stock when I ordered (last february) and receive regular shipments. I believe they had an S202 motor recently but I would give them a call for best prices and stock. If you are interested in a particular motor they will hold it for a week no money down so you can make your decision with no rush.

I got a complete set of pictures before I bought, again when they shipped showing its condition going on the pallet and received a tracking number the day it got picked up. About all you could want when buying something like that.
lukeskywrx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 01:08 AM   #4637
D-Rodman
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 110078
Join Date: Mar 2006
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Long Island N.Y.
Vehicle:
05 saabaru artc gr
02 wrx wag wrb ej207

Default

I purchased my v8 from japandomesticmotors, a vendor here. I was quoted $3900 for a v8 spec c motor swap kit. I got a non spec c v8 for $3500 shipped to my shop. Speak to Wais, they have a 60 day return policy, unlike the 30 days from the other vendors. It was a straight forward deal, did what they said they would do. I was missing the recirculating valve from the top mount, Wais put one in the mail in no time. I must say, could not get a definite answer on the mileage for any of the engines he had to offer, it was more of a guess answer. Judging from looking at the condition of hoses and parts that get brittle and old as the mileage piles on, my engine looked very fresh, not just from them cleaning it. I installed a new timing belt kit and as we unbolted parts and the hidden stuff was exposed it was all in very like new looking condition. Consistent with a fairly low miles engine. The spark plugs I removed from my 207 did look kind of orange in color where i expect to see a coffee with milk type color inside, not sure what to make of that. The oil was clean and there was no evidence of any type of contamination. It is impossible to know the quality of the engines until you get it and start to inspect it. Over all I'm pleased with how the transaction turned out and what I got for my money. In retrospect, I wish I had been able to get a video of the engine compression inspection, I was told compression was tested and it was around 120 125 on all cylinders. I don't have a compression testing tool but I should have tested it before installing the engine instead of just taking their word For it. I consider that my own mistakes but I guess I've gotten lucky to this point but I'm not driving my car yet. I'm still waiting on my dyno tuning appointment at EFI Logics on oct 24. Just today i got a Tomei expreme straight down pipe and and innovate wideband air fuel gauge setup, the last two parts I needed to complete my car before going for tuning. No regrets so far, hope my experience can help somebody looking into a ej207 project. I had a lot of help from people on this thread, I'm just contributing my experience for others to not repeat my mistakes and learn from my experience with the vendor.
D-Rodman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 06:51 AM   #4638
Ryan2002WRX
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 225439
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default

There are a few on JDM racing motors website right now. V7, V8 and also s202. A lot to choose from for anyone looking for one. Mine was was a v8 from jspec auto sports back in 2011 for 4500 bucks and amazing condition.
Ryan2002WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 08:53 AM   #4639
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan2002WRX View Post
There are a few on JDM racing motors website right now. V7, V8 and also s202. A lot to choose from for anyone looking for one. Mine was was a v8 from jspec auto sports back in 2011 for 4500 bucks and amazing condition.
without getting crazy here. in reality do any of the jdm motors actually handle more reliable hp than another.
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 08:23 PM   #4640
Ryan2002WRX
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 225439
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stlnation

without getting crazy here. in reality do any of the jdm motors actually handle more reliable hp than another.
You mean between the different versions and stuff like that?
Ryan2002WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 09:58 PM   #4641
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan2002WRX

You mean between the different versions and stuff like that?
yeah.

for example i know the internal diffrences between v7/8/9 and the spec c series and the S series. some got forged pistons, diffrent cams and turbos, updated block.

but, lets say i got a v7. on stock internals would i actually be able to upgrade it to say 550hp, where as if i got a v9 it would only be good for say 400hp?

i Found a used s202 (don't have a price yet) on the boards here and a s204 (7500 shipped).

is either engine worth thousands extra compared to say a std v7, v8 or v9.
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 07:50 AM   #4642
Ryan2002WRX
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 225439
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stlnation

yeah.

for example i know the internal diffrences between v7/8/9 and the spec c series and the S series. some got forged pistons, diffrent cams and turbos, updated block.

but, lets say i got a v7. on stock internals would i actually be able to upgrade it to say 550hp, where as if i got a v9 it would only be good for say 400hp?

i Found a used s202 (don't have a price yet) on the boards here and a s204 (7500 shipped).

is either engine worth thousands extra compared to say a std v7, v8 or v9.
Well that is a bit of a debatable question in my eyes. I mean in theory I say yes. I would say that forged motors should handle more power than cast. I think it is hard to lock a number to though. This has been covered though I have seen talks about this in this thread. I can't speak on if one is better than the other on personal experience because all I have owned is a version 8. I think it would be best to search this thread and also read people's experience with the different versions and see what they made for power.

Because to keep in mind at the end of the day these are still junk yard motors for the most part. So anything can happen with any single one of them. People are making great power with all versions tho so that is a huge plus I think no matter what you wind up with. But to give you exact power ranges all around I can't give ya that. Some with stock v8s are making upwards of 400 wheel plus and I am building mine at 320 wheel.

I would say any forged motor to start with would be great but then again it all depends on your goals and what you want. A guy from a local shop got a JDM motor shipped here planned on building it right off the bat and opened the motor up right after opening the crate and the inside looked like hell so things can happen. That being said tho I will never own a Subaru unless it has some sort of JDM STI motor in it. It is amazing. All I can say and I know it sucks but tons of searching will find your answers.
Ryan2002WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:38 PM   #4643
WhiteBgeye02
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 224785
Join Date: Sep 2009
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: neenah
Vehicle:
2005 wrx-jdm207
i went black...

Default

very tru^ they are almost all from junked cars so you never know what you will get. how long it sat. if it was taken care of for the first part of its life. how it is beign handles in transit. no one person or any of us really can tell you what it will hold. its always a rule that the more power you put thru it the shorter time it will last. most guys also upgrade the timing components and stuff like that to make external parts fresh. in my head i am on the same page as the ej257 which i know is wrong but i will be shooting for 400whp and feel like that is a max i should shoot for before i tear it down and upgrade parts rather than pushing it and throwing a rod through a cylinder wall and ruining the block completely
WhiteBgeye02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 01:44 PM   #4644
todeswalzer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 191495
Join Date: Oct 2008
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Lowell MA
Vehicle:
'05 WRB GTX3071R
JDM V8 EJ207 USDM 6MT

Default

+1 I'm stock internals on a gtx3071r. Should be about 400whp.

Give me another month or so and I'll let you know exactly how she is
todeswalzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 03:45 PM   #4645
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

thanks for the replys everyone. i swear everyone in this thread seems to act more friendly than in other forums ive posted in. its nice to find some friendly territory.

After listening to everyone i think im going to get a v9. im really wanting to find a v9 spec c but so far no luck. there is also the s204 for sale from jdm nagoya. But they want 11k with transmission and 7.5K motor only. Just to rich for my blood.
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 08:41 PM   #4646
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stlnation View Post
thanks for the replys everyone. i swear everyone in this thread seems to act more friendly than in other forums ive posted in. its nice to find some friendly territory.

After listening to everyone i think im going to get a v9. im really wanting to find a v9 spec c but so far no luck. there is also the s204 for sale from jdm nagoya. But they want 11k with transmission and 7.5K motor only. Just to rich for my blood.
as soon as i think i have my mind made up i find a S202 motor for $5500+shipping on the boards lol. i think it sounds a little high but hes willing to include transmission rear end axles and hubs for another $1500.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2420729
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 08:56 PM   #4647
25rsti
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 166324
Join Date: Dec 2007
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Haverhill, MA
Vehicle:
3 turbos &n NA
@DBlockSTi

Default

Little words of advice: Be patient. Keep searching, researching and find exactly what you want.
25rsti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 09:27 PM   #4648
Ryan2002WRX
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 225439
Join Date: Oct 2009
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 25rsti
Little words of advice: Be patient. Keep searching, researching and find exactly what you want.
That could not be more true! Great advice for all in this position!
Ryan2002WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2012, 09:56 PM   #4649
ImNOrobo
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 255716
Join Date: Aug 2010
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Where the simpsons live.
Vehicle:
A '04/'05/'01
RHD?!

Default

Check out jspecauto.com and jdmracingmotors.com, they both have good deals, they are vendors on here. It is the same company but two different locations.

I am def happy with my 05 jdm STI swap (V9). It was nice dealing with them and the swap went pretty smooth.

Last edited by ImNOrobo; 10-19-2012 at 01:02 AM.
ImNOrobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2012, 12:55 AM   #4650
stlnation
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321805
Join Date: May 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: St. Louis
Vehicle:
2002 Jdm v9 STI
Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImNOrobo View Post
Check out jspecauto.com and jdmracingmotors.com, they both have good deals, they are vendors on here. It is the same company but two different locations.

I am def happy with my 05 jdm STI swap (V9). It was no e dealing with them and the swap went pretty smooth.
im pretty certain they dont have any ecu's to go with their motors at the moment.
stlnation is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ej207 owner wants opinions adbramsay Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo) 2 02-26-2011 07:29 PM
Ej207 V6 AndrewFD3 Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo) 10 06-03-2010 04:53 PM
JDM Sti EJ207 V9 crank 75mm or billet crank (K1, Manley) VENDORS ??? L'frise Private 'Wanted' Classifieds 7 06-03-2010 09:24 AM
08 ej207 JDM dual AVCS heads on a built v7 ej207 icev7 Built Motor Discussion 17 02-21-2010 03:21 PM
Ver 8 EJ207 Owners Check In spoolinsuby Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo) 21 10-17-2005 01:56 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.