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Old 09-17-2006, 06:58 PM   #1
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Default car just lowered, do i really need an alignment?

i have a 06 wrx with just over 6000 miles. this weekend i lowered it on cobb springs. how important is it that i get an alignment? what settings should i ask for? i will be only doing sprited street driving.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:03 PM   #2
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i just wanna see some pics of your car on cobb's..
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:15 PM   #3
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yes you absolutely need an alignment

I've got a alignment sticky here:

www.clubwrx.net

There are also lots of alignment threads floating around
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:44 PM   #4
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.....lesse how long yer struts last
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:27 PM   #5
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I would recommend that you get an alignment. Your toe is probably a bit wacky right now. I would also recommend that you replace the OEM dampers with something that can take those springs.
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Old 09-17-2006, 11:10 PM   #6
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+1 for alignment.

+1 for new struts.



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Old 09-17-2006, 11:34 PM   #7
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you guys saying that if I drop my car with any aftermarket springs I would need to change my Strut cause the OEM one wont be able to handle it?

geeez more money for my pocket
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Old 09-17-2006, 11:36 PM   #8
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you guys saying that if I slam my car with too low junk aftermarket springs I would need to change my Strut cause the OEM one wont be able to handle it?

geeez more money for my pocket
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:19 AM   #9
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i read thru the alingment thread and am still confused about what settings i want. can anyone give me there settings?
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:49 AM   #10
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"spirited" street driving- front camber have them bump the neg camber up to -1.0ish- a little more won't hurt if they can get it. Cross camber as close to 0 as they can get. Rear camber is non adj- unless something is really wrong in the rear, leave it as is.

Caster is non adj. Toe have them set toe 0 front/rear- again emphasising the importance of a near 0 cross.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:38 PM   #11
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I would recommend that you get an alignment. Your toe is probably a bit wacky right now. I would also recommend that you replace the OEM dampers with something that can take those springs.
If I'm not mistaken, cobb springs are designed to work with your oem struts.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:42 PM   #12
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If I'm not mistaken, cobb springs are designed to work with your oem struts.
I know they'll work fine with STi struts, but I thought it was recommended that you upgrade base WRX struts?
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:52 PM   #13
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"spirited" street driving- front camber have them bump the neg camber up to -1.0ish- a little more won't hurt if they can get it. Cross camber as close to 0 as they can get. Rear camber is non adj- unless something is really wrong in the rear, leave it as is.

Caster is non adj. Toe have them set toe 0 front/rear- again emphasising the importance of a near 0 cross.
Most shops that actually agree to do alignments outside the factory specs are also able to slot your struts to give you a little more camber adjustment. I had that done in the rear to pull camber back out from the -2 deg it was at when I initially installed a set of springs.

I was rather happy with -1.5 front, -1.0 rear, zero toe on a daily driver.

And to emphasize the importance of an alignment...adding negative camber in the front creates toe-out. My friend lowered his car and corded the inside of a brand new set of Azenis RT-615's in 5000 miles. Get an alignment or you may be buying tires before you want to.
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:23 PM   #14
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My friend lowered his car and corded the inside of a brand new set of Azenis RT-615's in 5000 miles.
How much longer are they supposed to last?




If that's only street driving I suppose that is pretty bad. I got about 7000 miles out of my last set of RT-615's, but that's with four autocrosses and four hours of open track driving.
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:23 PM   #15
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A good alignment really isn't that expensive.
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:43 PM   #16
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+ 1 on the alignment. My stock struts lasted for 10k - 12k and were still working fine when I replaced them with coilovers 5 weeks ago or so.
Another member is now running my stock struts with the same springs. He's having no problems.
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Old 09-19-2006, 02:19 AM   #17
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iv heard a lot of people with cobbs and even teins for 40+ with no problems, i think it has a lot to do with the roads.

i will be going tomorow and will ask for -1.0, cross camber and toe at 0. i will be getting bigger wheels and tires eventually, probly gonna be 255's. will i need to get realigned do add more camber?
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:17 PM   #18
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bump, anyone know the answer to the previous question?
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:26 PM   #19
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Everyone freaks out about this, and I'm not trying to be a smartbutt here, but it's common sense. Just keep an eye out on the treadwear IMO. If it looks like there is abnormal wear, then schedule for an alignment. If you drive easy on the corners, then there is a good chance that a slight change in ride height will affect your treadwear. Drive aggressive around the turns, good chance you can get away with it. If your daily commute is a 20 mile long highway straight, then your done . A good alignment tech is key here. If he's on the same page as you are, and understands your driving style, then good things happen. I'm lucky, and spoiled with having a good tech who can set it up correctly, and just charge me a measly price of $70 out the door.
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:09 PM   #20
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Everyone freaks out about this, and I'm not trying to be a smartbutt here, but it's common sense. Just keep an eye out on the treadwear IMO. If it looks like there is abnormal wear, then schedule for an alignment.
Wrong. By the time you see noticeable wear patterns, it's too late and you've severely compromised your tires.

Get the alignment NOW. Yes, you definitely need it.
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Old 09-19-2006, 10:21 PM   #21
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after i get this alinment, will i need another one to add more rear camber to fit bigger tires, 245s or 255?
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