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Old 09-18-2006, 09:22 PM   #1
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Question Inside front tires worn out from springs.

hey guys, i have the eibach pro kit on the car. the front tires wear very badly on the inside, the backs seem to be just fine..
would a regular allignment work or shal i get bolts/correctors. if anyone knows what im talking about help me. please.

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Old 09-18-2006, 09:24 PM   #2
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Let me understand one thing.......

Did you align the car after you installed the Eibachs?
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:27 PM   #3
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get an alignment. the springs shouldn't be causing it.

0 toe front and back. -1.° to -2.5° camber up front, -.5° to -1.5° out back is what i try and run. some will agree, some won't. you could get 6gun racing's ball joint extender so you can run less static camber, and have the tires flatter on the ground for most of the time, evening wear. (btw- i have an sti, if that matters)

also- tire pressure should be checked.
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:28 PM   #4
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truthfully, i dont think so..
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:31 PM   #5
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btw it is an 03 wrx sedan, i dont really know anything about suspension.. mostly the camber, toe, and static are greek to me..
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:44 PM   #6
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Probably an alignment issue. You need to get the car aligned since changing the springs changed all your alighment specs from what they were BEFORE you changed the springs.

Could be this mistake also cost you a set of tires.
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:50 PM   #7
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Yeah, lowering the car on springs causes added camber and added toe out. Hence the inside of your tires are worn. Get an alignment. How long ago did you put on the springs?
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:51 PM   #8
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should i just have them put it back to the stock toe and camber? where would be the best place to have this done?

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Old 09-18-2006, 10:33 PM   #9
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Go to a reputable shop and give them numbers to align to - don't just tell them to get it in spec or you'll end up with a crappy alignment. Here's a basic primer on what alignment terms mean - http://www.familycar.com/alignment.htm . On our cars the caster is not adjustable, nor is the rear camber (both of those can become adjustable if you purchase aftermarket parts, but you shouldn't need to). So, that leaves front camber, and front and rear toe.

Go to the shop and tell them you want -1.25deg camber up front, equal on both sides, and you want 0 toe front and rear. If you do a lot of corner carving (back roads, on/off-ramps) then you could run more negative camber up front. For "normal" driving with occasional spirited romps the -1.25 should be fine.

When the shop is done they should give you a print-out showing the alignment specs. Usually there's a "Before" column and an "Actual" column (with "Actual" = "After"). Make sure the "Actual" column shows what you asked for, and if it doesn't, don't accept the work. It really is very easy to align these cars, so there's no reason a competent (or even incompetent ) worker shouldn't be able to do it.

As for where to have it done... Well, you can ask people in your regional forum, they may have shops they trust. I've had good luck with Sears - decent price, and they always have good, modern equipment from what I've seen. When I give them numbers to align to they say they won't warranty the work, but I don't really care about that. As long as they give me a print-out that shows the numbers are set where I told them to set 'em, I'm happy.

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Old 09-18-2006, 10:40 PM   #10
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should i just have them put it back to the stock toe and camber? where would be the best place to have this done?
Like Pat said....1-1.5 neg camber in the front, no toe all around. The toe is whats killing your rubber...
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firestone will give you lifetime aligbnments for something like $130.

well worth the price.
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Like Pat said, best to check your regional forum for alignment shop recommendations and get that printout after the job is done.

If the specs aren't what you requested, make them do it right.

If they screw up, the printout will be your proof.
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Just pray you get a tech that will take the time to do it right. They are rushed and most seem to want you to settle for "it's close enough". It takes time. I want my own rack. I have had good results using the home methods given elsewhere in this section. There is a real good thread here explaining the concept and the procedures very well. Some of the guys I race with have made use of some great tools and methods and I am grateful to them for the lesssons. It works IF you take your time and are careful.
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:44 AM   #14
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thank you all! once the new tires get here ill let ya know what happens
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