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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 125950
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Vehicle:2010 BMW 135i/05 Sti 7.3 F350/06 Audi A4 |
just wondering how good the vf22 works with utech, im installing the turbo tomorrow and wondering how well it works because i heard its very laggy. and also wondering if any has a good stage 4 map to share.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 48589
Join Date: Nov 2003
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Murrieta, CA + SAN DIEGO
Vehicle:2006 SGM STi VF39 EWG/EBCS/Phatron Tuned |
work well...
It all depends on the tune. AFAIK theres no specfic turbo that will work better with 1 EM or another. -Jeff |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 59837
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region:
SWIC
Location: Arizona
Vehicle:2004 Spec-C Type RA What MAF? -Speed Density! |
you have all the supporting mods for that turbo....right? and no map will work perfectly unless it is tweaked for your setup and to do that you need a wideband and egt at the very least. If this doesnt make too much sense stop now before you blow up your engine, or at least video tape it.
Luke |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 78703
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Ashburn
Vehicle:2004 WRB STi |
you sound like you know very little about subies and moding them. do some research and take your time before you do anything, or you may regret it.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 125950
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Vehicle:2010 BMW 135i/05 Sti 7.3 F350/06 Audi A4 |
no, its the vf22 i dont know much about, and that is why im asking about it. I wrote the thread to have someone anwser my question, not to have someone throw it in my face i dont know about subies. I have - HKS turbo back exhaust, hks uppipe, turboxs utech managment, pink sti injectors, and turboxs tmic.
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NASIOC Vendor
Member#: 12029
Join Date: Nov 2001
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Sterling, VA
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Now, as to whether the VF22 is a good turbo for a 2.0 car, my answer would be yes. We dyno-tuned a VF22 WRX here a couple of weeks ago, and it spooled perfectly nicely and made 285 awhp on pump gas. Respectable in my book. --Dan Mach V FastWRX.com |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 78074
Join Date: Dec 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: NoVA
Vehicle:2005 STi Aspen White |
dont mod ur car until u research some more dude. im being honest cause you'll pop ur motor if u dont know what ur doing
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 125950
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Vehicle:2010 BMW 135i/05 Sti 7.3 F350/06 Audi A4 |
im an ase certified mechanic. im not going to "pop" my motor. and as for mr fast wrx, amazing how you can insult someone that buys from your website.
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 23676
Join Date: Aug 2002
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: de_dust and Orgrimar
Vehicle:. |
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I am a mechanic as well. 17 years wrenching experience 4 of which include tuning UTECs, I have worked on over a hundred peoples subarus easily (not including the subby dealership I worked at) I assure you that you being a mechanic will not circumnavigate the issues of the reliability limits on the 2.0 motor. Bottom line, a VF22 at anything over 16PSI WILL kill the motor eventually. When you upgrade the turbo and go past about 250whp it is no longer a matter of if, but when. The VF22 is NOT laggy. Please find the person that told you this and slap the **** out of their dumb ass. 14PSI just before 3000rpm, 21before 3500rpm. Does that sound laggy to you? Yes the UTEC can handle it. If you knew as much as you claim to, you would already have known this and wouldnt be asking this to begin with. Its engine management that controls boost, timing and fueling. Did you miss that somehow?? What else are you thinking it needs to do? How about this, take 30 seconds to search VF22 and UTEC here on nasioc and you would have seen that thousands of us have run/do run that combo. But no, you want us to just spoon feed the info, then give us attitude when we try to help? I love when people ask REALLY basic questions, then claim to be way experienced ![]() BTW, all ASE means is that you can study from a book and remember the info. Yeah you have to have 2 years "experience" but that can be working at jiffy lube and trade school (which teaches you dick) counts as part of that time. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 125950
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Vehicle:2010 BMW 135i/05 Sti 7.3 F350/06 Audi A4 |
when did i claim to know so much? i asked a simple god damn question and i get tons of hostility for it. and there is more to being ase than just reading a book. The main thing i wanted to know is how good of a turbo is the 22. I hear mixed reviews about it and i wanted to hear more opinions on it. THE REASON I ASKED HOW THE 22 WILL WORK WITH UTEC is that I read on the website its base maps are for the vf30 and 35. Sorry everyone for a stupid question.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 50267
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region:
SWIC
Vehicle:02 built hybrid sr55/meth/sick speed |
Sharing custom maps is like addicts sharing needles, only bad can come form it. Load the stage 4 map and look for someone in your area with utec knowledge to help your tune it. My advice is a quick road tune to pull some timing then head to a qualified tuner for your real tune.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 78703
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Ashburn
Vehicle:2004 WRB STi |
sorry if i seemed rude in my first post but im just being honest. i dont doubt you are a mechanic or whatever but that doesnt matter, every car is different. upgrading to anf VFxx turbo is one of the most basic turbo upgrades for a WRX but you can still ruin your car very easily if done wrong. acept peoples advice to do more research on the VF22 or any turbo upgrade. All the questions have been asked and answered just seach for a bit and you will find them. People are giving you "hostility" beacuse its a very general question thats been asked plenty of time before. goodluck with your upgrade whatever you choose to do.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 78703
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Ashburn
Vehicle:2004 WRB STi |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 22290
Join Date: Aug 2002
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Vehicle:2002 WRB WRX Wagon |
I'm running a VF22 right now. It works fine with UTEC, and you can use the base stg 4 map as a starting point. I've had a VF30 and prefer the VF22. Sounds like you should know what you're doing with the car, so tune it and you'll be fine.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 28308
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Philly
Vehicle:03 td-06 wrx ra-c Platinum |
Same here running p&pvf22 with a utec+fmic. I have had it on for about 30k already. 20psi and 310awhp
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NASIOC Vendor
Member#: 12029
Join Date: Nov 2001
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Sterling, VA
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Obviously I didn't know you were a customer, but I thank you for your business! --Dan Mach V FastWRX.com |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 78074
Join Date: Dec 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: NoVA
Vehicle:2005 STi Aspen White |
just because ur a mechanic doesnt mean u know what ur doing. my bro is a benz mechanic and he doesnt know the first thing about highly modifying cars
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