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Old 09-20-2006, 12:37 AM   #1
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Subaru Stars Does vf-22 work good with turboxs utech? and also looking for a good stage 4 map

just wondering how good the vf22 works with utech, im installing the turbo tomorrow and wondering how well it works because i heard its very laggy. and also wondering if any has a good stage 4 map to share.
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:55 AM   #2
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work well...

It all depends on the tune. AFAIK theres no specfic turbo that will work better with 1 EM or another.

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Old 09-20-2006, 09:40 AM   #3
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you have all the supporting mods for that turbo....right? and no map will work perfectly unless it is tweaked for your setup and to do that you need a wideband and egt at the very least. If this doesnt make too much sense stop now before you blow up your engine, or at least video tape it.

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Old 09-20-2006, 09:52 AM   #4
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just wondering how good the vf22 works with utech, im installing the turbo tomorrow and wondering how well it works because i heard its very laggy. and also wondering if any has a good stage 4 map to share.
you sound like you know very little about subies and moding them. do some research and take your time before you do anything, or you may regret it.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:07 PM   #5
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no, its the vf22 i dont know much about, and that is why im asking about it. I wrote the thread to have someone anwser my question, not to have someone throw it in my face i dont know about subies. I have - HKS turbo back exhaust, hks uppipe, turboxs utech managment, pink sti injectors, and turboxs tmic.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:12 PM   #6
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no, its the vf22 i dont know much about, and that is why im asking about it. I wrote the thread to have someone anwser my question, not to have someone throw it in my face i dont know about subies. I have - HKS turbo back exhaust, hks uppipe, turboxs utech managment, pink sti injectors, and turboxs tmic.
The fact that you're asking if a particular turbo works with a particular engine management (which is spelled UTEC, by the way) would indicate a certain amount of ignorance. As mentioned, no turbo goes better or worse than any specific engine management solution. It's like asking if a particular tire will work well with the UTEC; those parts don't really have any direct relation to each other.

Now, as to whether the VF22 is a good turbo for a 2.0 car, my answer would be yes. We dyno-tuned a VF22 WRX here a couple of weeks ago, and it spooled perfectly nicely and made 285 awhp on pump gas. Respectable in my book.

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Old 09-20-2006, 01:46 PM   #7
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dont mod ur car until u research some more dude. im being honest cause you'll pop ur motor if u dont know what ur doing
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:23 PM   #8
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im an ase certified mechanic. im not going to "pop" my motor. and as for mr fast wrx, amazing how you can insult someone that buys from your website.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:27 PM   #9
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im an ase certified mechanic. im not going to "pop" my motor. and as for mr fast wrx, amazing how you can insult someone that buys from your website.


I am a mechanic as well. 17 years wrenching experience 4 of which include tuning UTECs, I have worked on over a hundred peoples subarus easily (not including the subby dealership I worked at)

I assure you that you being a mechanic will not circumnavigate the issues of the reliability limits on the 2.0 motor.

Bottom line, a VF22 at anything over 16PSI WILL kill the motor eventually. When you upgrade the turbo and go past about 250whp it is no longer a matter of if, but when.


The VF22 is NOT laggy. Please find the person that told you this and slap the **** out of their dumb ass. 14PSI just before 3000rpm, 21before 3500rpm. Does that sound laggy to you?

Yes the UTEC can handle it. If you knew as much as you claim to, you would already have known this and wouldnt be asking this to begin with.
Its engine management that controls boost, timing and fueling. Did you miss that somehow?? What else are you thinking it needs to do?


How about this, take 30 seconds to search VF22 and UTEC here on nasioc and you would have seen that thousands of us have run/do run that combo. But no, you want us to just spoon feed the info, then give us attitude when we try to help?





I love when people ask REALLY basic questions, then claim to be way experienced


BTW, all ASE means is that you can study from a book and remember the info. Yeah you have to have 2 years "experience" but that can be working at jiffy lube and trade school (which teaches you dick) counts as part of that time.
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Old 09-20-2006, 03:55 PM   #10
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when did i claim to know so much? i asked a simple god damn question and i get tons of hostility for it. and there is more to being ase than just reading a book. The main thing i wanted to know is how good of a turbo is the 22. I hear mixed reviews about it and i wanted to hear more opinions on it. THE REASON I ASKED HOW THE 22 WILL WORK WITH UTEC is that I read on the website its base maps are for the vf30 and 35. Sorry everyone for a stupid question.
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:35 PM   #11
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Sharing custom maps is like addicts sharing needles, only bad can come form it. Load the stage 4 map and look for someone in your area with utec knowledge to help your tune it. My advice is a quick road tune to pull some timing then head to a qualified tuner for your real tune.
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Old 09-20-2006, 05:55 PM   #12
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sorry if i seemed rude in my first post but im just being honest. i dont doubt you are a mechanic or whatever but that doesnt matter, every car is different. upgrading to anf VFxx turbo is one of the most basic turbo upgrades for a WRX but you can still ruin your car very easily if done wrong. acept peoples advice to do more research on the VF22 or any turbo upgrade. All the questions have been asked and answered just seach for a bit and you will find them. People are giving you "hostility" beacuse its a very general question thats been asked plenty of time before. goodluck with your upgrade whatever you choose to do.
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Old 09-20-2006, 05:57 PM   #13
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im an ase certified mechanic. im not going to "pop" my motor. and as for mr fast wrx, amazing how you can insult someone that buys from your website.
and hes not insulting you, hes stating the truth.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:36 PM   #14
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I'm running a VF22 right now. It works fine with UTEC, and you can use the base stg 4 map as a starting point. I've had a VF30 and prefer the VF22. Sounds like you should know what you're doing with the car, so tune it and you'll be fine.
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Old 09-20-2006, 11:08 PM   #15
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Same here running p&pvf22 with a utec+fmic. I have had it on for about 30k already. 20psi and 310awhp
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...and as for mr fast wrx, amazing how you can insult someone that buys from your website.
I did not mean to insult anyone. Ignorance isn't a crime; it just means you haven't learned yet. I'm plenty ignorant on lots of subjects. Ask anyone.

Obviously I didn't know you were a customer, but I thank you for your business!

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Old 09-21-2006, 02:16 PM   #17
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im an ase certified mechanic. im not going to "pop" my motor. and as for mr fast wrx, amazing how you can insult someone that buys from your website.
just because ur a mechanic doesnt mean u know what ur doing. my bro is a benz mechanic and he doesnt know the first thing about highly modifying cars
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