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Old 04-11-2014, 08:27 PM   #1
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Default Extra S quart now available at the dealer?

I'll start out by saying that I've tried searching for the past half hour, so either I'm terrible at searching these forums or it hasn't been asked yet (hard to believe). And no I haven't seen a bottle of what passes as the standard Subaru 75W-90 so maybe I've been duped.

I recently stopped into the dealer and asked if I could buy any Extra S 75W-90 gear oil and to my surprise the service person said that they just recently started selling it by the quart. This caught me by surprise but I picked up a quart to check it out.

It doesn't say anything on the bottle about being "Extra S" so that's the first thing making me suspicious. The part number on the bottle is SOA427V1700, I'm attaching a photo of the back of the bottle. Looking at the fluid is does have that light gold color I've seen in other people's photos of Extra S. It does say it is manufactured in the US and I was under the impression (perhaps falsely) that Extra S was manufactured outside the US.

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Old 04-11-2014, 08:37 PM   #2
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:42 PM   #3
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That's what I was thinking, too good to be true.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:56 PM   #4
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AFAIK, the Extra-S is normally sold in 40lb (5-gallon) containers.

Vendors, whether a dealer or independent, selling Extra-S in quart-sized containers, have bought the 40lb container and decided to fill and sell quarts of it instead.

It's much easier of course to sell a quart than a 40lb container.

Otherwise, buy Motul Gear300, which is sold in 1-litre containers.
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Old 04-12-2014, 07:39 AM   #5
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S stands synthetic, label says nothing about type of oil (dino or synthetic) in the bottle.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:09 PM   #6
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Bump for an answer i'm in the same boat.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:13 PM   #7
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It was answered. Extra-S is not sold by Subaru in quarts/liters, but 5+ gallon drums. Some vendors buy the larger quantities from Subaru and re-sell it in quarts/liters, but it is not a Subaru part, and it's very few.

There is a vendor in SoCal who sells quarts, maybe get in touch with them.
http://www.infamousperformance.net/s...-S-Gear/Detail
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:04 PM   #8
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Not the same, got this from the parts department at work. Don't stock the Extra S, never did and they say they never will. Might get some of this stuff, so they say.


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Old 04-25-2014, 01:58 PM   #9
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Wish I had found this thread earlier. I called the dealership last week looking for Extra-S as well. Didn't know it was only sold in the 5 gallon containers. Parts guy told me the exact same thing that they stocked it in quarts so I ran down and bought a bottle to do my rear differential. Good thing I googled the part number.
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Old 06-20-2014, 04:58 PM   #10
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Ugh I have tried 5 different dealerships to buy the Extra S 5 Gallon pail and all of them say they no longer carry and try to sell me the SOA427V1700 instead. I'm not sure of anyone who will sell the Extra S anymore, and those places that re-bottle it in quarts will run out soon too.
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Old 06-20-2014, 09:53 PM   #11
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Ugh I have tried 5 different dealerships to buy the Extra S 5 Gallon pail and all of them say they no longer carry and try to sell me the SOA427V1700 instead. I'm not sure of anyone who will sell the Extra S anymore, and those places that re-bottle it in quarts will run out soon too.
Jscspeed has them in stock
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:27 PM   #12
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Jscspeed has them in stock
Hey thanks for that, they do indeed have it. It's about $40 more than I'm used to paying but they might be one of the only shows in town now.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:32 AM   #13
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I have a 2015 WRX and just called the dealer to see if they had any Extra S in bottles. I plan to change after my 1000 mile break-in period. The parts department did some checking with Service and called back and said for the 2015 6MT they do not recommend Extra S, which is 75W-90, but recommend going with Extra MT, which is 75W-80. Extra MT is in fact what the service manual calls for, although it says you can use GL-5 75W-90 as an alternative, but expect different performance. The dealer said they do not have this oil yet since this is new for 2015's and they would have to order it. They are selling it at $19.95 per quart.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:13 PM   #14
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Hey ztlm did they tell you the part number of this fluid they are recommending for the 6MT?
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:21 PM   #15
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No, but they said it should be in in about a week. When they call I will go and check out the details and let you know.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #16
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So I just called them, and they said the parts number was SOA635300. I found at least one on-line site that lists it for $17.38

http://www.subaruoeparts.com/oe-subaru/soa635300
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:05 PM   #17
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Thanks for the part number. Must be pretty new, hard to find anywhere. If someone gets a quart of it lets try to get some photos up.
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Old 07-11-2014, 09:44 PM   #18
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So I ordered "extra S" from Fred beans and it is the same part number as this ****. Who is wrong here? Is Fred beans lying to us??
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Old 07-12-2014, 11:15 AM   #19
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Yeah I noticed Fred Beans still calls it Extra S on their Amazon listing but the photos are of this new non-Extra S gear oil. Seems a little deceiving to me, I would contact them and see what is going on.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:12 AM   #20
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I did, I already did the trans change too, I'm gonna dispute it most likely. They even still advertise it in their forsale section as extra s. Seems f'd up to me.
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Old 07-14-2014, 02:00 PM   #21
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Beans response to my email:Hi David,

The forums have their uses. They can be great for personal experience and setting people in the right direction or they can spread misinformation like wild fire. People in the forums are real quick to grab their pitch forks and torches. There is also tons of biases involved as well.

As far as the Extra-S. The bulletin stats this is an alternative to the 5 gallon drum of extra S. Not an alternative to extra S. Subaru decided to use the quart size since it was being resold so much. Very few dealerships were willing to pump the bottles out. So they were losing sales.
Furthermore I doubt Subaru is going to go through the trouble of acquiring another trans fluid to put in their vehicles. The dealerships alone would have a fit with this. They would have to stock multiple trans fluids and try and decide which one now goes in what year and model. If anything it would be an upgrade from the previous fluid, similar to what they did with the LSD fluid. This is the same fluid they have used previously and still continue to use.
They make it the easiest of all the manufactures. Open gear/open differential use Extra S. LSD differential use LSD fluid. Automatic Use ATF. That’s 3 fluids for the whole car line. Oops I forgot they have a CVT transmission now too.


He emailed me right back saying I made him second guess himself and he called Subaru to confirm that it was actually extra s in the bottles. I'm good with it. Shifts feel smooth too.

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Old 07-15-2014, 09:37 PM   #22
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I bought the 5 gallon drum last year and have only used 4 quarts. So I should save the rest i stead of selling it?
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:27 PM   #23
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I talked to Fred beans parts and they said it is extra s in quart bottles... I ordered 4 qts off their e bay store... Even if it isn't its not likely to destroy my trans either way lol


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Old 07-16-2014, 02:31 PM   #24
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I just wish they would stop calling it Extra S. It isn't Extra S, it might be just as good or better but it is not Extra S.
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Old 07-16-2014, 03:02 PM   #25
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FWIW, not all dealerships put Extra-S in these cars when they service them. When I ordered my 5 gallon drum over the phone the counter guy said I was all set, he would have them pick me up a 5 gallon drum when they went to get there 55 gallon drum from the supplier.

I stopped by the dealership on my way home. The parts manger saw me walk in a said he was sorry I was given the wrong info on the phone. When he saw my name on the order, he knew what I wanted, he ordered me the Extra-S, they normally use Mobil 75w-90.
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