Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Friday December 19, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Normally Aspirated Powertrain

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-03-2001, 03:18 PM   #1
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Exclamation I need timing alignment help quick!

OK, I'm about to put my rocker assembly together and I can;t figure out how to allign anything because of all the marks. On my crank timing belt pulley there is a blue dot, a triangle, and a line. all in different areas.

On my two cam sprockets there are a big arrow, a blue painted on dot, and a little line like on the crank timing pulley.

What lines up with what??? Please help here.
Thanks

Eric
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 04:37 PM   #2
HndaTch627
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 6551
Join Date: May 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Carol Stream, IL
Vehicle:
'01 GC8 Dinged STM
'09 Concours 14 ABS Black

Default

the aarow's point up on the cam pulleys....you will see white dots painted on the CAM and CRANK pulley. There will 3 white lines on your T-Belt...line that all up and you'll be set to go but MAKE sure all those white marks line up otherwise you just thru your valve timing all to hell.

jeremy
HndaTch627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 04:59 PM   #3
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Default

I don't have any white marks on my timing belt at all. it is all black

Eric
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 05:20 PM   #4
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Default

Here is the first cam sprocket. Notice the arrows and dots and lines:



Here is the second cam sprocket. same stuff :



Here is the crank sprocket Notice it has an arrow, a line, and even another blue dot!:



What lines up with what. like I said, there are no marks on the belt

Eric
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 07:28 PM   #5
SubyTechMaster
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 4423
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Placerville, CA USA
Vehicle:
'04 08 Tribeca, SVX
Gold, Maroon

Default

Don't listen to someone who works on Hondas!

The arrows at 12:00 mean #1 TDC. To install the Cam Belt, arrange the Cam gears and the Crank gear with the "Line" at 12:00. This will put them in APPROXIMATE position to install the belt. The left Cam will be loaded and the right Cam will not.

To install the belt, either go buy a new Cam Belt from Subaru or find a Subaru Service Manual so you can get the tooth-count between cam marks and crank mark. You should have marked these on the belt as well as the direction of rotation before you took it off. The position of the gears is only approximate because it doesn't really matter, the number of teeth between the marks is what is important.

What are you sealing your Cam Cases with? Don't use RTV Silicone.
SubyTechMaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 07:42 PM   #6
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Default

Why shouldn;t I use RTV? That's what the Shop manual suggests and what was on it from the factory. Do you know how many teeth should be on the belt between gears?

Eric
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 09:59 PM   #7
SubyTechMaster
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 4423
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Placerville, CA USA
Vehicle:
'04 08 Tribeca, SVX
Gold, Maroon

Default

Here is the tooth count instructions from the SM. It is from the Forester book but is the same for Impreza.

Nevermind. It is too much work to post a pic here. I have the SM on CD and was going to copy the page.
Between the Crank mark and the R. Cam mark is 46.8 teeth
Between the Crank mark and the L. Cam mark is 43.7 teeth

After you set-up the belt and release the tensioner, turn the crank back and forth and check to make sure the marks still line up. Turn the crank over 2 revolutions and make sure the Crank and Cam marks still line up. Once you turn over the engine the belt marks will no longer match up to the gears.

I don't know what Service Manual you are reading, but Subaru does not say to use Silicone RTV. The solvent in the RTV is destructive to O2 sensors, and it doesn't work well. For the Cam Case Subaru recommends Threebond 1280B, part #K0877YA018. This is also what came on the engine "from the factory".
SubyTechMaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 10:27 PM   #8
FormerSubTech
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 11913
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: SF Bay Area
Vehicle:
2000 Forester
White

Default

Hey tech master.... did you ever work at the dealer in walnut creek?
FormerSubTech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 10:56 PM   #9
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Default

When you say right and left, you mean Left is Driver and right is Passenger correct?

Eric
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 11:09 PM   #10
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Default

OK, I must be doing somethign wrong.. No matter how hard I try, I can't get the timing belt on and the Tnetioner is fully compressed! Wht's the secret

Eric
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 11:09 PM   #11
SubyTechMaster
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 4423
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Placerville, CA USA
Vehicle:
'04 08 Tribeca, SVX
Gold, Maroon

Default

That is the universally accepted referance. As though you are seated in the Drivers Seat.
SubyTechMaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2001, 11:20 PM   #12
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Default

Just wanted to make sure we were on the same track. so waht the secret to getting the belt on? it is Sooooo close.

Eric
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2001, 03:02 AM   #13
Midwayman
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1997
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Des Plaines, IL
Vehicle:
2006 Acura TL 6spd
STMGM6 alumni

Default

SubyTechMaster, Hondatech actually has torn down ej25's quite a few times now. Dont discount it. He has practical experience inside of subary motors. Just cause he mainly works on hondas doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's talking about.
Midwayman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2001, 07:00 AM   #14
HndaTch627
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 6551
Join Date: May 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Carol Stream, IL
Vehicle:
'01 GC8 Dinged STM
'09 Concours 14 ABS Black

Default

yeah that was a rather rude comment. But thanks anyways. Just trying to help someone out...oh yeah if you went and bought a new belt you'd have 3 white lines on it....cam crank cam....but thanks.

jeremy

subaru Idiot

Last edited by HndaTch627; 11-04-2001 at 07:08 AM.
HndaTch627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2001, 01:15 PM   #15
Eric SS
Sooby Guru
 
Member#: 1914
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: 2013 335i, 2011 G37 coupe
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS w/ EJ22T
swap and N20. gone. : (

Default

Thanks for all the help guys. I ended up going to Cobb Tunning's site adn saw something on it that said something about takign the red pulley off and bingo! the belt went right on. I counted the number of teeth and marked it there everything lined up perfectly. Now I am goign ot be putting the engine back in the car today

Eric
Eric SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2001, 01:55 PM   #16
SubyTechMaster
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 4423
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Placerville, CA USA
Vehicle:
'04 08 Tribeca, SVX
Gold, Maroon

Default

While my comment may have been snide, it does not discount the fact that WRONG info was posted.

My apologies if I impinged on anyones honor.
SubyTechMaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2001, 03:02 PM   #17
HndaTch627
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 6551
Join Date: May 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Carol Stream, IL
Vehicle:
'01 GC8 Dinged STM
'09 Concours 14 ABS Black

Default

well that's how i was told to do it by 3 subaru techs and it's worked on 3 cars so far.
HndaTch627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
need timing belt help in milwaukee! n2oiroc Mid West Subaru Owners Club Forum -- MWSOC 2 05-24-2008 03:35 AM
i need timing degre help?? happy69 Built Motor Discussion 0 05-06-2007 12:25 AM
Need Alignment Help Quick Like.....Hook a brother up!!!! YourMother'sLover Texas Impreza Club Forum -- TXIC 13 06-02-2006 05:16 PM
I need some photoshop help quick Disgruntled Off-Topic 13 10-22-2004 01:33 PM
Need lat minute help quick! JDMSubaru Tire & Wheel 7 10-17-2003 11:48 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.