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Old 09-26-2006, 11:32 PM   #1
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I was really looking into getting a nice DSLR camera. I was gonna go on a trip in the future and want to take some quality photo's. I'm really into taking pictures of basically everything, and right now only have a regular (nice quality) point and click camera.

So i was wondering where to get a DSLR Camera from? Any good sites to check out? Good places to go looking for one? In Canada or down in the USA, in bellingham or seattle.

What kinda features should i be looking at? I know that i want something in the 8MP range or so. Something that i can grow into. I don't want a "basic" camera that i'm gonna out grow in a bit. Something that i can work with, and grow into. My price range is about $1,000 or so. Is there anything coming out soon thats a big jump in technology that i should wait for? I can of course wait a few months to get this, doesn't have to be right away.

Maybe this could be a good FAQ for people that have questions about these kinda camera's, or start a better thread that would be more suitable. I know there is the photo-thread, but i think a place where people can ask questions and people with knowledge that can tell me in normal useful language would be great.

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Old 09-26-2006, 11:46 PM   #2
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dpreview.com - lots of camera reviews here

If I would be buying a camera right now for 1000 or so, I'd seriously look at this one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

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Old 09-27-2006, 12:14 AM   #3
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skier, is that site US pricing? When I got my camera, I found it on cameracanada.com, and got a local camera shop to do a price match... that way I got the camera immediately, and wouldn't have to go far for warranty stuff (plus they gave me a bunch of free prints with a free store membership)

here's the Rebel XTi with the lens kit and a 1GB card http://cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/pr...p?pid=1236B004
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:16 AM   #4
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by the way, I kinda regret not waiting a bit longer and getting that 10MP version instead of my 8MP one, but then again, I paid about 200 less... and I barely afforded mine (after getting a tripod + case + UV filter)

whatever, I'm happy

by the way, you're already looking into getting a SLR, so there really is no 'basic' camera
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:17 AM   #5
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Try this site, they are located in Alberta so you pay only one tax, free shipping on orders over $500.

http://www.camera-warehouse.ca
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:55 AM   #6
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I heard that the Nikon D80 is the latest hot item.

I've said it many times before, but I'm going to say it again: there's no duty on cameras and lenses when you bring it across the border--only sales tax. So if you do your research and decide on the one you want, you can just shop for the best price and service.

I bought my D50 from Kits Camera at Bellis Fair because I didn't want a grey market camera. So I have a full NIKON USA warranty and a shop I can go to if I have any problems. With the exchange rate so good, I saved quite a bit of money.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:15 AM   #7
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+1 for cameracanada.com! I got my Digital Rebel + 17-40/4L there, great deal, you should email them for a quote, I got quite a bit of discount that way.
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Broadway Camera will match any Cdn online stores. I've only dealt with the Richmond store. But I think the Vancouver branch is the same too.
Nikon D80, Canon Rebel XTi, Pentax K100 or the Sony A100 are all new entry level dSLRs which will work well beyond a beginner's skillset.
Remember, going into the world of SLR means access to various lenses, flash systems, etc. So don't just base the purchase on the camera body only. Think about the total package that each brand offers.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:22 AM   #9
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Broadway Camera will match any Cdn online stores. I've only dealt with the Richmond store.
Ack!
I went to Aberdeen Mall for the first time on Saturday and I must have spent an hour trying to get in and out of that parking garage!
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:47 AM   #10
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sony store in the bellingham outlet before seattle... very much cheaper!!! But limited selections...
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:57 AM   #11
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i was looking into a SLR too.. the rebel xti looks pretty sweet..

so the nikon d80 is the hot item lately? i should check that out too..

does anyone lease their camera btw? i mean $40/month for 3 years is pretty affordable..

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Old 09-28-2006, 04:43 AM   #12
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yeah thats a good question about leasing
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:52 AM   #13
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You won't be spending about $1000 on a DSLR.

Most DSLR requires you to have purchase different lenses especially if you're going on a trip. You have to ask yourself

- What kind of photos am I going to be taking mostly? [Landscape][Architecture][People][Wildlife][Sports][macro]
- Where am I going to be mostly? [indoor][outdoor]

Also, there aren't really features that matter in terms of a DSLR, other than specific to your needs, such as frames per second or how many focus points (Although this is mostly for fast moving objects, ie. sports or birds). All those "portrait" modes or "landscape" stuff don't do much once you know what you're doing. I'm mostly in aperature priority or manual mode.

In terms of MP, this only determines the size of the pictures you want to take. At 8MP, you're looking at poster size prints - Are you going to be printing out poster size prints? Megapixel may aid the quality of photos a tad more on consumer level point and shoot cameras but once you move onto DSLRs, it's all about the lens, sensor and you.

I'm just an occassional hobbyist and I've spent over $2000 in just equipment for more or less bare minimum equipment for "everything" (Body, 28-75 f2.8, 12-24 f.4, sigma 500 flash, 50 f1.8)

Again, these are guidelines, some people can get by with just a kit lens but will always wonder why the shots still look like they came from a point and shoot.

Remember, DSLRs are much less forgiving, unless you shoot RAW and know your way around photoshop to sharpen things up a bit. I can almost say that consumer level point and shoot cameras can match a DSLR in quality in terms of JPG at a beginner level.

Finally, you have to account for all your accessories too, such as a fast reading memory card, if you are shooting at max resolution or in RAW format, this will really help. You won't have to wait for your memory card to write and keep shooting. Believe me, if you are going to be getting a 8MP camera, in RAW mode, each picture will be around 7-8MBs. Make sure your memory card is big enough. Get a 2-4GB Lexar and something to store your photos if you are going for a long time. I've easily ran through 2GBs of shots within a day. Sure you can look at your photos while you're out and erase the bad ones but then you're losing time to take pictures Other things like tripods, UV filters, carrying cases (backpack maybe?) account for the cost too. When you're getting a tripod, please, please, PLEASE don't get a cheap flimsy one, for one, they're really unstable for a heavier body such as a DSLR. I would not feel safe putting my camera on there. Make sure if you are getting one, get one that has some weight but not too heavy, remember you'll be lugging this around all day if you're out shooting pictures. I learned this the hard way with an even an aluminum Gitzo tripod, added with my other stuff, it got pretty heavy by the end of the day).

I suggest you go to http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ and look around there and ask.

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Old 09-28-2006, 06:50 PM   #14
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I got my D200 at www.lensandshutter.com, just because they're right up the street from me.
But www.kerrisdalecameras.com is pretty competitive, too.

and, definitely read http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech.htm, and, if you're leaning towards Nikon, www.nikonians.org
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disagreed. You dont need 3 lenses for "bare minimum", especially 50mm prime. Bare minimum is an XTi with a kit lens, that will do the trick no problem.

kit lens != point and shoot
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disagreed. You dont need 3 lenses for "bare minimum", especially 50mm prime. Bare minimum is an XTi with a kit lens, that will do the trick no problem.

kit lens != point and shoot
Kit lens I assume for the Rebel is still the 18-55mm F3.5-4.5?

Bleh, I can't stand that lens. Maybe it's just my copy of the lens, it had CA out the roof, soft at corners.

Again, it may work as "bare minimum" but for a DSLR, it's quite lacking. I've seen results from higher end point and shoot which can achieve kit lens quality shots.

In this case for the OP, he wanted better pictures, that's why he opted for a DSLR over a PS. I'm just trying to say he won't be completely wowed with the results.

Oh yeah, the 50mm prime is just my learning lens, you don't need that I know or the 12-24 F4.

I would recommend the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 though or if you got the serious cash Canon 24-70L
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Great advice Lantec! Thanx for the insight! I'm most likely gonna buy a camera in early 2007 so i'm not in any rush. I'm sure prices on some stuff might come down a bit maybe.
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it's 3.5-5.6... It's far from perfect but is also dirt cheap and therefore good bang for a buck

I'd go with 24-105 f4L anyday though
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Great advice Lantec! Thanx for the insight! I'm most likely gonna buy a camera in early 2007 so i'm not in any rush. I'm sure prices on some stuff might come down a bit maybe.
Np. While I do agree with skier that you can get by with just the kit lens, it's always nice to have better range and having a wide open aperature gives you some nice bokeh effects.

Go to a place and just try out some cameras first, see how you like the ergonomics. Remember, you won't like shooting pictures with it if you don't want to hold it.

Just remember, like AWD doesn't make you a king on the road, using a DSLR won't turn you into Ansel Adams
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it's 3.5-5.6... It's far from perfect but is also dirt cheap and therefore good bang for a buck

I'd go with 24-105 f4L anyday though

I'm kinda saving up (along with a lot of other things to save up for) for a 70-200 f4L....maybe if I have the patience, a f2.8...

I just want a telephoto and I should be alright for a while until I get into the 300+ range
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f4 70-200 is pretty cheap for L lens...
http://cameracanada.com/eNet-cart/pr...p?pid=2578A002

I wouldnt be able to justify more than 2x price difference between f4 and f2.8

and dont forget about poor man's telephoto - 75-300 which is below 300 bucks
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In the winter, the air tickets are only a few hundred bucks, and there's a bundle of savings in the exchange rate and tax relative to Canada...
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So i was wondering where to get a DSLR Camera from? Any good sites to check out? Good places to go looking for one? In Canada or down in the USA, in bellingham or seattle.

Thanx, Ernie T.
This is one one the "better bang for your buck" DSLR I could find.
Olympus E500, 2-lens kit, $899 at London Drugs.
http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/...ode%5EUSDen-US
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In the winter, the air tickets are only a few hundred bucks, and there's a bundle of savings in the exchange rate and tax relative to Canada...
That is if you are already planning to go to Japan. Otherwise, adding a few hundred bucks to the cost of your camera to buy it in Tokyo won't save you much money over all--especially if you have to take time off work to do it.

Back when my wife worked for the air lines it only cost us $50 to fly to Japan . That is, before they started having all the financial problems. .
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That is if you are already planning to go to Japan. Otherwise, adding a few hundred bucks to the cost of your camera to buy it in Tokyo won't save you much money over all--especially if you have to take time off work to do it.

Back when my wife worked for the air lines it only cost us $50 to fly to Japan . That is, before they started having all the financial problems. .

Not to mention that you'd be screwed on warranty, AFAIK.
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