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Old 09-29-2006, 12:45 PM   #1
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http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20060...ger/#more-1470

anyone know if this might work better than regular oil changes?


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Old 09-29-2006, 01:18 PM   #2
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Seems like it would be too easy to miss some of the old stuff. More than with a drain (leave pools or something if it cant reach the nooks). I don't actually know though. If it ain't broke, don't fix it?
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:18 PM   #3
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I would be concerned that you might leave some dirty oil in there. You have to get under the car to replace the oil filter anyway.

One thing that we use on aircraft, which I think would be nice on my subie, is a drain valve, in place of the drain plug. I know they are available. To drain the oil, you put a hose on the drain valve leading into a bucket, and open the valve. No need to remove the plug, replace the crush washer, get all oily, etc.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:26 PM   #4
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Thats pretty neat. But i dont think it would get any metal shavings, like the magnetic drain plug does. Of course its important to know if your engine is shaving metal.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:32 PM   #5
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I would be concerned that you might leave some dirty oil in there. You have to get under the car to replace the oil filter anyway.
Agreed. You still ned to get uner there and remove/replace the filter. I dont see you saving much time/effort/cleanliness. still coudl get dirty from removing the filter. Unless the plug is way back somewhere crappy, or one is a pooor mechanic, I dont forsee getting any more than a few drops on your fingers.

It is a good idea though, from watching Parks S4 get the coolant flushed, they used a pressurized system and it sucked the coolant mix back inot the whole system. I'd assume it works well going the other way.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:41 PM   #6
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I would see that being handy say on an engine with a top mounted oil filter and you having no way of getting under the car. Otherwise and call me old fashioned but I'd rather be under the car draining the oil.
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:26 PM   #7
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One thing that we use on aircraft, which I think would be nice on my subie, is a drain valve, in place of the drain plug. I know they are available. To drain the oil, you put a hose on the drain valve leading into a bucket, and open the valve. No need to remove the plug, replace the crush washer, get all oily, etc.
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...ghlight=fumoto

I had one on my old car, but not on my current car. It's nice, but it is bigger than the stock plug. If I get a skidplate, maybe I'll try a fumoto valve again. But I really don't get too messy doing it the old fashioned way.
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:03 PM   #8
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I would see that being handy say on an engine with a top mounted oil filter and you having no way of getting under the car. Otherwise and call me old fashioned but I'd rather be under the car draining the oil.
top mounted oil filter??

Also it says pump 50 times??? holy tiredarm batman...i could possibly be done with an oil change by 50 pumps...lol

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Old 09-29-2006, 03:19 PM   #9
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Apparently Mercedes-Benz dealers use oil extractors for their oil changes. Maybe they use a different type?
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:48 PM   #10
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Yeah, there are several engines out there in various manufactures that have the oil filter on top of the block. Cadi, cavalier, sunfire and a couple others come to mind.
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:08 PM   #11
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I think the new toyota v6 that is in the Tacoma has a top mounted oil filter also. I am realy looking at getting a fumoto valve so I dont have to re-create the exon valdez oil spill in my garage again.
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:50 PM   #12
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I think the new toyota v6 that is in the Tacoma has a top mounted oil filter also. I am realy looking at getting a fumoto valve so I dont have to re-create the exon valdez oil spill in my garage again.
i've got one i'm not using anymore....fumoto valves are awesome!
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:25 PM   #13
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Thats pretty neat. But i dont think it would get any metal shavings, like the magnetic drain plug does. Of course its important to know if your engine is shaving metal.
not going to catch much with an Al block and heads
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:54 PM   #14
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i've got one i'm not using anymore....fumoto valves are awesome!
I'll buy it off you
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:21 AM   #15
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Some of the Ferrari guys were saying good things about those. Regular oil changes aren't difficult enough for me to change my ways though.
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:44 AM   #16
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seem kinda kool but i like it the old fashion way and see how dirty my oil would...you're gonna have to change out the oil filter anyways, so might as well....
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