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Old 09-25-2001, 05:53 PM   #1
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My JCSports intake just came in today. I have been fighting to get it to fit and it seems to have gone in well.



My only problem is the MAF adapter that I have for my 2.2ltr OBS is too big for the XT6.


I dont' actually need the Maf adapter itself but the filter has a plate inside it that's the same size as the MAF adapter you see me holding. The MAF sensor on the XT6 is surprisingly smaller. I thought it would be the same size.

Here is how the intake would look if it was done.


Excuse the poor picture quality. Can anyone give me suggestions on how I can get the filter plate to reduce in size to attach to the MAF of the XT6? Once that is figured out, it's all done. Thanks for any and all help.
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Old 09-25-2001, 05:55 PM   #2
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Old 09-25-2001, 08:55 PM   #3
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Question K&N Filters

Anyone!?! Does some K&N filters that you buy for a distributor come with a Maf plate to attach the MAF sensor too? I'm thinking of looking around town tomorrow to see if any K&N distributors have a K&N filter with an adapter that may fit this MAF. It's worth a try but if some K&N filters don't come with a MAF plate to attach to, then it would be a waste of time.

With 9000+ members here, put your great minds together. I need your help. Hehe! I'm just going to throw a panty hose over the MAF for now, cut some rubber hose from a hardware store for the vacuum lines and drive around. Panty-hose is truly a 'Ghetto-intake'. I'm sure it's not the best idea though.....
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Old 09-25-2001, 10:13 PM   #4
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maybe go to home depot and look to see if they have a pvc pipe with reducers for the size thta you need . just an idea, good luck.
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Old 09-25-2001, 11:34 PM   #5
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I could probably make you an adapter. Just e-mail me a drawing of what you need w/ exact dimensions.

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Old 09-26-2001, 09:50 AM   #6
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My buddy chad's XT-6 has a cone filter on it.. I'm not sure if it is a full on intake or just a filter stuck on the end.... I rarely see under his hood, too busy noticing the rally lights and push bar. I'll check with him or check it out this week and see what happens.
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Old 09-26-2001, 11:59 AM   #7
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Kevin if I were you I would use JB weld to fill the existing mount holes in the MAF adapter, then drill new ones that match the XT6 MAF. I have had good luck doing similar operatins with JB weld. Just give it plenty of time to set before you drill it and don't use JB qwik.

good luck!
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Old 09-26-2001, 01:02 PM   #8
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Or you could just elongate the holes with a Dremel and bolt it together tight, so that they don't shift around and let outside air in.

So you did get to keep that XT6, Kevin?
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Old 09-26-2001, 02:21 PM   #9
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I haven't gone through Motor Vehicle yet because of my bad oil leak but everything looks legit on the title. I actually bought it from a dealership this time with the dealerships name on the title. Once I get my oil leak problems fixed today, it'll be ready for Motor Vehicle.

jerome02rs,
Thanks for the offer for making an adapter. I think I may be alright now.

Thanks for all ideas everyone. I think I know the course of action I'll take in tackling this problem I was out all day calling machine shops and figuring out who can make a Maf Adapter or any piece of some sort where I can fit my filter to the MAF sensor. As I was driving on the highway, I was thinking exactly what skidplatez said below.

The filter would go on the MAF sensor similar to this.



Here's a picture of the MAF adapter that comes with the JC Sports intake for those that aren't familiar with how it looks.


I noticed, like skidplatez said, that you have plenty of room to drill more holes into the adapter. So I drove to a machine shop and asked them if they could do it and they said sure. I didn't have my MAF sensor with me because it's on my car while the oil leaks are being repaired. So I'll take off the MAF sensor tomorrow and take it to the machine shop, with the MAF adapter, to be measured, drilled and tapped to be screwed. It seems so simple now. I hope it goes together well. Here's a pic of where I would have the holes drilled (Not exact locations but close. Note where pieces of paper are).


I won't have the other holes filled in because they won't interfere with the function of the adapter. They'll just be extra holes so when I sell the adapter, it'll be able to not only fit a 2.5RS or 2.2ltr Impreza but also an XT6 depending on how you rotate it. Pretty cool huh?

Once I finish this intake, I'll take a pic of it completed. A bracket of sorts came with the intake so I'll use that to stabilize the intake on one of the screws inside the engine bay.

Here's how I drove the car to the shop today:





Just remember to use Sheer Energy pantyhose because they don't run. Makes for a poor mans air filter...temporarily.

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Old 09-27-2001, 11:26 AM   #10
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Just giving an update to those that are interested. I got the holes drilled in the MAF adapter and it's finally done. I'll be taking my car up to the dealership and putting it on. The oil leaks are still being repaired and parts ordered so hopefully it'll be done either today or tomorrow. Just letting some of you old schoolers know that it can be done. I'll post a pic of it on the JC Sports intake but it probably will not look much different than it does on the pic above. I'm happy project #1 has been completed. Woohoo!

Note: All of my tools are in the XT6 so that's why no pic of the MAF adapter with the new holes are shown. I may get a pic of it later sometime.







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Old 09-27-2001, 04:23 PM   #11
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Hey Kevin, not too bad. so did you get that Blue Xt that you showed me. or are u working w/ a diff one?

anywho, you think that set up would work w/ the XT turbo? cuz its got the stupid @$$ MAF too. i did change it to cold air, by cutting out the air box on the bottom side...i was bored.

anywho, w/ only 118HP, this tiny turbo needs help makin HP.

Subysports didnt have much on their website that looked important to the XT turbo project.

oh well, good luck gettin that thing installed. keep me updated, and tell me how that bad boy runs w/ that new intake!

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Old 10-23-2001, 02:54 PM   #12
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anywho, you think that set up would work w/ the XT turbo? cuz its got the stupid @$$ MAF too. i did change it to cold air, by cutting out the air box on the bottom side...i was bored.
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Sorry Fluby, I never answered your question. I am not sure if it would work but I doubt it would. I don't believe the XT turbo has the same intake setup as the XT6.

Also, I never posted the finished pictures of the intake.




The yellow rubber coupling on the throttle body will be replaced with a blue one sometime later this week.




It's difficult to make out but a bracket is holding the intake steady so it doesn't shake itself to death (it didn't shake much to began with). Also, the bracket supports the intake on that end. Bracket is included with the intake I believe. It almost seems like the intake was made just for this car. Now someday I'll have to go into the kitchen and make a homemade heat shield.

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Old 10-24-2001, 05:19 PM   #13
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thats pretty good lookin.

hows it run? faster? louder?

im such a procrastinator, havent messed w/ the XT still. anywho, if i ever do, ill let u know what i discover.

good luck w/ the head sheild


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Old 10-24-2001, 10:18 PM   #14
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thats pretty good lookin.

hows it run? faster? louder?
It's a bit louder but that's due to the muffler. The car was running like crap but that was due to the SAFC I have on until earlier today. I don't know what the car runs stock because I never got to the dragstrip when it was stock.

Best I've run so far with the mods is 16.473@82.81mph. It's a start I guess.

I got the Apexi SAFC but can't tune it without an EGT gauge (which should get to my shop by tomorrow). That with the Redline Racing ATF and my timing advanced by 5 degrees (today), I'm hoping (More like praying) that I'll get in the low low 16's, high 15's with trap speeds nearing 85mph.

The trap speed is more important to me because it'll let me know I'm making more power. What would really be cool is if my trap speed reaches the 85-86mph range. That'll let me know I'm making approximately 165hp (estimated) on par with a 2.5RS. That's a 20hp increase!

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Old 10-24-2001, 10:26 PM   #15
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lol, modest hopes, enough to keep a man alive.

i know the pain all to well...i used to race my dads 86 TA, it had the LG4 305 4bbl. thats the low output version. only made 140 hp. it would run 16.60s all day. that was my dial in, and i never broke out...which is a good thing and a bad thing.

i wish it was faster, cuz it looks like it should be. oh well...*shrugs*

my RX7 is only good for mid 15s or so too. my "fastest" car was my 79 TA, w/ a 6.6L, that ran a best of 15.15@87 mph... it was capable of 14s, except, my fuel bowls would dry up @ about the 1000' mark, and the engine would die out.

say, do u think i should have a BOV for my XT? what sort of boost levels did it produce in stock trim?

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Old 10-25-2001, 11:06 AM   #16
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XTs are sexy. they look a little like a doorwedge, but I like them. I almost got a silver XT turbo with 4WD. I would've loved the thing. the guy's engine literally blew up though. piston holes in the fenders and all. dunno how he pulled it off. must've been a good show though. anyhow... I have nothing productive to add. just that I like XTs.

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Old 10-25-2001, 07:47 PM   #17
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hell, if u like them so much, ill sell you mine...for a few hundred bucks.

have you seen the interior? they are pretty cool. a weird steering wheel, but the seats are very nice and supportive. not to mention, mine has a digital dash. its pretty cool.

i just wish i had time to work on it. ive got 2 other projects, And college... *sigh*

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Old 10-25-2001, 09:47 PM   #18
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Damn Chris! I probably can scrounge up a few hundred bucks if it's like that. Your XT Turbo is AWD right? What problems do you have with it? Damn it man... Stop it!

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Old 10-26-2001, 11:03 AM   #19
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hell, if u like them so much, ill sell you mine...for a few hundred bucks.

have you seen the interior? they are pretty cool. a weird steering wheel, but the seats are very nice and supportive. not to mention, mine has a digital dash. its pretty cool.

i just wish i had time to work on it. ive got 2 other projects, And college... *sigh*

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(feeling just a little tempted)... umm... turbo and AWD right? any issues? color? dead hookers in the trunk?

I'd be more than happy to trade straight up for my 88 Saab 900 turbo. everything's perfect. just needs a CV joint. turbo's smooth as butter. a little rust over one of the fender wells. a few dead hookers. you know how it goes. I need to get rid of it before it snows. no time or $$ for the CV joint.

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I want your XT (bump )

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mmm...i dont think its AWD. im pretty sure its just FWD.

i Thought that XT Turbos were FWD, and XT6s were AWD. but u couldnt have a combo of both? im not sure.

the car is rough, its got rust. the interior is way better than the outside though, and most, if not all of the gadgets work inside.

my only problem with it is the coolant leak. its either a blown head gasket, or cracked head. from what i hear around the scooby sites is, its more likely a cracked head than head gasket. i havent torn it down to verfiy yet.

...i should stop being so lazy.

ive got pictures of it, in all its glory. i gota find them first. if u guys wanna see how pitiful it is. ill show u.

if anything, it might be worth the turbo upgrade. but, i dont know.

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FLUBYUx2, there is ALOT of things you can do to make the XT turbo faster. I don't recall any of the XT's having the 5spd FT-4wd tranny like the XT6 5spd is, but I think both the XT and XT6 were avalible in 2wd Auto, and 4wd auto. I don't think there was ever a 2wd 5spd XT, but the 4wd will only be a part time pushbutton system on the 5spd.

The first thing to do if you get it to stop eating coolant, is to up the boost to 13.5psi. Any more boost than that and you start to loose power. An intercooler is a good idea, but a 2.5" downpipe makes a huge differance. I also make a much improved crossover pipe if you are interested. I have enough intrest just recently that I might do a group buy on them.
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Come on FLUBYUx2. Fix that coolant leak and make that car scream. It'll always be cheaper than making huge car payments on a new car and breaking parts modding that. I kicked out a crap load of money fixing the oil leaks on my XT6 and I'm still not done.

Tranny is bad between 2nd-3rd gear, still another oil leak, suspension is bad, brake rotors are horrible, you get the picture. I ain't giving up. This car will probably be paid off by the end of the year and I bought it in Septemeber. Way better than paying $400.00 a month for 5yrs...like my OBS. That's what a $500.00 downpayment will do. It would be worse now. If I had that blue XT turbo that I showed you in that pic and XT6 wagon said this to me, I'd be all over it. It's way easier to make turbos fast. And old school turbo should be cheap. Go for it man. Good luck!

BTW: I believe an XT turbo with FWD weighs just over 2400lbs. Just think if you made around ONLY 200hp. That's a power to weight ratio of 12lbs per hp. That would be awesome man! Go, Go, Go.

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Damn it, You are making me want to do a EJ-20T swap in my $500 brat. It runs around fine on less than 75 hp, so I can't imagine what it would do with over 200.
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God, cmon guys. i have -$30 to my name, and ur still makin me wanna spend money on the XT.

the body is really rough around the front and rears of the fenders.

also, i got a Tbird intercooler. *wink wink* that i picked up for free. nice condition too, no dents, dings or missing fins.


XT6wagon, the car is a 5speed for sure, cuz the clutch was just replaced. so were the brakes. we bled the hydraulics, and its got new rotors (not resurfaced) and new pads.

but, as far as i can tell, its only FWD... i didnt see any halfshafts or a rear diff in the back. its the crazy little 1.8L, and a 5 speed. and its definitly turbo. so, does all this mean that it MUST be AWD? cuz if so, im gonna say Nuts to the search for a Celica alltrac, or 323 GTX.

man, id be thrilled if the XT was AWD. u guys, im really worried that it has a cracked head. i mean, what if it is? where the heck am i gonna get a replacement????

but, check this out:
plans after coolant leak is fixed->

1. Turbo XS MBC
2. Topmount T-bird IC
3. Spectre cone filter (From AutoZone)
4. Custom DP (2.5" is right size i assume?)
5. Gutted/No cat, straight pipe, Big fart tip from AutoZone.

i just gota figure out how to route the cooling for the IC, and how to mount it. if i put an IC on it, how much boost can the stock internals take?

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