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Old 07-02-2007, 01:52 AM   #301
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congrats ten80 and beckaski!
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:58 AM   #302
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Does that make you the tenaski's or the ten80-beckaski's.
Many happy years to the both of you.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:49 AM   #303
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Congrats to you both!
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:43 PM   #304
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I called the wrx owner and he said he doesn't want to swap his car any more, so he proposed that I buy his wrx sti jdm engine which is a '99 with about 100,000 kilo. (about 280 hp 245 lbs torque he have the ecu ...

So he tell me that i can keep my transmission but i will need to be very smooth with it the only thing i have to change is the
turbo charged engine mounting cross member of a legacy turbo
and i found one in a specialised Japanese car shop.

So, what do you think about that ?
You have all the basics you need then. The JDM motor runs in Japan with much higher octane fuel than we get in the United States. You can get by with something like "Sunoco Ultra 94", with the stock JDM motor and ECU.

"Mumbles" managed to do a Version 7 WRX STi JDM swap in to his not turbo 2.5 litre Impreza RS. Unfortunately do to emmissions testing here in Massachusetts, he eventually sold the car to someone out on the West Coast and bought a Mitsubishi EVO instead. His swap took literally several years (he did basically all the work himself the hard way), about five times more work on his part than he anticipated, and eventually involved using the entire JDM gauge cluster (Instrument pannel) as well as the wiring.

I am concerened that you may be delving in to a rather difficult project, but I wish you the best of luck.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:51 PM   #305
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Here is a link for some information about what doing one of these swaps involves:

http://www.powerlabs.org/jdmsubaru.htm

Hopefully this helps.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:55 PM   #306
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On another note, we just got married yesterday . Doesn't mean that she'll let me drive the turbo-charged Legacy all the time, but I'm willing to live with that
Congratulations ten80. I wish you and Beckaski a very happy life together.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:44 PM   #307
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I am indeed happy, I got to drive the turbo couch last weekend on twisty roads going to Mt. Rainier. The more I drive the car, the better it feels. The only remaining issue is the fluctuating boost when it gets above 10psi under hard throttle. The boost bounces between 6-16 psi and won't settle unless throttle is reduced. I'm no boost junkie, but I suspect that the problem is due to the boost control solenoid and/or the arrangement of hoses leading to/from it.

here's a picture snapped in the twisties:

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Old 07-27-2007, 04:59 PM   #308
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Picture no workie.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:06 PM   #309
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mannnn I wish I could do that swap on my wagon
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:33 PM   #310
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mannnn I wish I could do that swap on my wagon
Yes, me too. Of course, I know DLC probably doesn't want it done, and I totally understand his reason.

ten80, keep the pics coming. I love your car and I plan on stealing it one day when I am in Colorado!
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:52 AM   #311
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fixed the picture and FYI, the car's no longer in colorado
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:59 AM   #312
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^^well hey, I am close to Washington also.

That picture is sweet.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:52 AM   #313
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heh this thread is pretty much exactly what I want to do to my manual BE once the warranty is out and I get some extra money :P Little OT but driving around I found a really nice twisty road starting in Randle going all the way south through St Helens to Hwy 14, its HWY 131/NF-25 directly east of Randle on Hwy 12, you should check it out if you havent already.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:10 AM   #314
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This was the first time I saw this thread. I love how your car turned out!! Much props I have never seen anyone do a BE Legacy swap before. I used to have a 2000 BE Legacy but I got in a wreck before I ever had the chance to turbo it or swap it. Currently have a 99RS w/ the 2.0L WRX motor which is a blast but sometimes I wish I had my old BE back with a full STI swap or something of the sort. Do you happen to have any good sized pics of the engine bay? Curious how that motor looks in the BE bay. Imo the 00-04 Legacies look the best once set up right with rims, suspension, tint and jdm lights front and rear, just ends up being too gaddam sexy!!
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:01 AM   #315
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thanks for the compliments! I have no pictures of the engine bay, but other than my custom bracket for the boost contol solenoid and cruise control, t looks exactly like the engine bay that the motor originally came from. Speaking of JDM bits, we're going to Japan in a few weeks and I might have to track down some JDM fog lights. The stock ones that came on 00-02 BE are rather worthless. I wonder if there are any other goodies I should look for

We've had almost no issues with the car in more than 12k miles since the swap. It still has a mystery problem with boost spikes at WOT, but I think it is due to my creative hose configurations to the boost control solenoid and wastegate actuator. I'll have to work on it next time I'm in Washington.

infox- thanks for the heads up. We've not yet explored southern Washington and will likely head that way this spring/summer to ski Mt.Hood
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:31 AM   #316
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This is an excellent swap. Bookmarked for later.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:51 PM   #317
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thanks for the compliments! I have no pictures of the engine bay, but other than my custom bracket for the boost contol solenoid and cruise control, t looks exactly like the engine bay that the motor originally came from. Speaking of JDM bits, we're going to Japan in a few weeks and I might have to track down some JDM fog lights. The stock ones that came on 00-02 BE are rather worthless. I wonder if there are any other goodies I should look for
Legacy B4 spec taillights. Oh, and I've got a Legacy B4 grille with your name on it if you're interested. You're the only guy I know of in the states with a turbo BE. Grille would be perfect.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:42 PM   #318
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thanks for the compliments! I have no pictures of the engine bay, but other than my custom bracket for the boost contol solenoid and cruise control, t looks exactly like the engine bay that the motor originally came from. Speaking of JDM bits, we're going to Japan in a few weeks and I might have to track down some JDM fog lights. The stock ones that came on 00-02 BE are rather worthless. I wonder if there are any other goodies I should look for

We've had almost no issues with the car in more than 12k miles since the swap. It still has a mystery problem with boost spikes at WOT, but I think it is due to my creative hose configurations to the boost control solenoid and wastegate actuator. I'll have to work on it next time I'm in Washington.

infox- thanks for the heads up. We've not yet explored southern Washington and will likely head that way this spring/summer to ski Mt.Hood

You already checked which side the boost pill restrictor is in correct on your vacuum hoses going to the turbo? You may have it plumbed backwards, isn't the car supposed to hit 13psi in stock form? I assume you already know all o this though since you did the swap.

congrats, looks awesome.

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Old 01-30-2008, 06:26 PM   #319
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Hey ben,

the car is "Cobb stage 2" and the boost should peak around 16-17psi. It does that, then goes a little further, up to 19 psi for occasional spikes. I checked where the pill was supposed to be and it looks correct. I may have a leak somewhere in that tubing. Becca doesn't flog the car much, so there's little risk of it blowing up, although a flashing CEL of doom happened the other day while at WOT, then disappeared when we tried to read the code with the Accessport!

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Old 03-17-2008, 07:51 PM   #320
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sorry to bump it up. but i am planning to do the EXACT same swap in a few years. what was the total cost?
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Old 03-18-2008, 12:49 AM   #321
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sorry to bump it up. but i am planning to do the EXACT same swap in a few years. what was the total cost?
The measurable total cost was likely rather low, as they already had the totaled WRX, and simply purchased a Legacy with a blown head gasket & bad struts, and did most of the swap (including the wiring) all by themselves... they only went to the dealer to have two or three small issues corrected.

If you were to include the total number of labour hours that went into this swap and were to calculate even a minimum wage of Ten80, Becka and Matts time then it was a rather expensive swap.

Purchasing a brand new Baja Turbo hood, and having a body shop colour match that hood to the front fenders had to have run more than $500, but in terms of the completed product, it appears to have been money well spent.
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Old 03-18-2008, 04:04 AM   #322
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^ well put. We spent received 18k in insurance payment, spent 7k on the wrx, 7k on the legacy, made about 3k in parts sold, spent about 2.5k on parts, and lost about 3k on time not spent at work. Net profit was likely $500-1500, but I really have no idea. If I had to do it again, I'd have bought a lightly used 05-06 LGT sedan.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:45 AM   #323
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Well from a project management perspective, the critical path was clearly the wiring. Could you imagine the frustration of someone who is color-deficient, trying to figure out all of the wires by pin location, then trying to trace it by color to the distant end. Nearly impossible I would think.

Just want to say that you put some pretty complex pieces together and it all worked. The two things that most impressed me, having read this whole post for the first time tonight, was the stick-to-it-ness (even with tough "other" schedules) and the excellent firnished product/outcome. You can't have one without the other and you've certainly earned some down time. You should be justifiably proud - excellent work and well done on this demanding project.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:00 PM   #324
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^^^ No Joke.

This thread seems to be exactly what people need to read on a how-to guide for this swap. A lot of people tend to under judge the demands of it and you stuck to it, congrats.


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Old 03-20-2008, 03:17 PM   #325
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yeah... it's a nice idea... like the OP said though... would have been easier and almost as cheap to get a newer (05+) legacy GT that will hold it's value better than the swapped legacy he did... although, being a BH owner myself, it's sexy to see it done.
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