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Old 10-05-2006, 01:46 AM   #1
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Ok, so I am ordering some stuff up for the wagon and I need some opinions.

Not sure what to get yet, so many choices since I am still stock for the most part. Maybe some wagon guys can get in on this too, (SparkysJDMSpeedWagon).

I'm pretty sure I want to get a sway bar, but should I get rear only, or front and rear?

-Cusco Front/Rear 22mm Sway Bars $310 Shipped
-Cobb Front/Rear 25mm Sway Bars $350 Shipped (Optional Solid Mounts Available)
-Whiteline Front/Rear 24mm Sway Bars (Low Stock) $305 Shipped

What else would you guys recomend looking at? I am kinda looking at the Cobb AP but not sure on that yet, maybe some aux. lighting. I need to upgrade my speakers to compensate for the sub but I don't want to get into that yet, and wheels will be comming next spring.

All I have right now is audio and Evo2 catback.

I did order a black GrillCraft grill though
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:04 AM   #2
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if you need help installing the sway bars let me know. I'll help install. I'd go with both to be honest with you. And perhaps a strut bar to.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:07 AM   #3
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Really depends on what you plan to do with your car. I upgraded only the rear swaybar, and while it helped, it wasn't enough for me. I then installed springs, and this was a bigger upgrade, even with the stock struts.

But, in the spring I plan to upgrade the rear swaybar again, with a matching front. But, I do some autocrossing, and that's the reason for my upgrades. Tires are a good handling upgrade too, usually a good first upgrade.

Power upgrades can be covered by everyone else.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:12 AM   #4
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Thanks guys, I will probly get bolth front and back then. I want to try autocross out maybe next summer if its not to hard on the car. I dont realy ever plan on drag racing or anything, I would have got something else if I wanted to do that. I will hold off on tires until the stockers wear out I think.

I am all about making it more fun to drive though (as if I dont already have enough fun).
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:15 AM   #5
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Ok, so I am ordering some stuff up for the wagon and I need some opinions.

Not sure what to get yet, so many choices since I am still stock for the most part. Maybe some wagon guys can get in on this too, (SparkysJDMSpeedWagon).

I'm pretty sure I want to get a sway bar, but should I get rear only, or front and rear?

-Cusco Front/Rear 22mm Sway Bars $310 Shipped
-Cobb Front/Rear 25mm Sway Bars $350 Shipped (Optional Solid Mounts Available)
-Whiteline Front/Rear 24mm Sway Bars (Low Stock) $305 Shipped

What else would you guys recomend looking at? I am kinda looking at the Cobb AP but not sure on that yet, maybe some aux. lighting. I need to upgrade my speakers to compensate for the sub but I don't want to get into that yet, and wheels will be comming next spring.

All I have right now is audio and Evo2 catback.

I did order a black GrillCraft grill though
I (with a 04 wrx sedan)have front/rear cobb swaybars with rear endlinks, I really like the setup. My son (02 sedan) has a rear whiteline sway with endlinks, and that is a good setup, too. You'll notice the most change with the rear sway. Wagons might be different....?

You'll want a downpipe ASAP, very easy to install. Watch on here, one comes up for sale frequently. An uppipe(aftermarket or gutted stock) is great too, but the install is much tougher, except for a few guys on here who can do it in an hour or two. Once you have the downpipe+catback, an Accessport is hands-down the best bang for the buck. $600, 20 min install, 40hp, smoother power band. Good luck.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:19 AM   #6
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I (with a 04 wrx sedan)have front/rear cobb swaybars with rear endlinks, I really like the setup. My son (02 sedan) has a rear whiteline sway with endlinks, and that is a good setup, too. You'll notice the most change with the rear sway. Wagons might be different....?

You'll want a downpipe ASAP, very easy to install. Watch on here, one comes up for sale frequently. An uppipe(aftermarket or gutted stock) is great too, but the install is much tougher, except for a few guys on here who can do it in an hour or two. Once you have the downpipe+catback, an Accessport is hands-down the best bang for the buck. $600, 20 min install, 40hp, smoother power band. Good luck.

Thanks for the info, to keep her legal wouldnt I have to get a catted dp? Also the 06's donít have a cat on the up-pipe so I donít think I'll ever change it out. The reason I am holding off on the dp&ap is because I want to get some more miles on her before I endanger the warranty.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:52 AM   #7
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I'd definately recommend the front and rear swaybars. It'd be worth it to also get upgraded endlinks, unless you want to deal with a "clunk" noise every time you corner. I have all whiteline suspension parts on mine (except the coilovers are Tein). I bought the 22mm front sway bar, and the 22-26mm rear swaybar (which also requires heavy-duty swaybar mounts, in addition to the upgraded endlinks), as well as their anti-lift kit, steering rack bushings, differential bushings, and lateral links. I think the lateral links are a waste of money (look at the price!) unless you are really hardcore. They offer a lot of adjustability (toe, camber), but otherwise, the difference isn't $500 better. The other parts all were definately a big plus, and probably the best money I've spent on my car so far. Just look at my for sale thread, all horsepower parts. Do you see any of my suspension for sale? Oh, and to repeat what AKOBS said, tires tires tires. The sooner you're off the RE92's the better.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:01 AM   #8
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I'd definately recommend the front and rear swaybars. It'd be worth it to also get upgraded endlinks, unless you want to deal with a "clunk" noise every time you corner. I have all whiteline suspension parts on mine (except the coilovers are Tein). I bought the 22mm front sway bar, and the 22-26mm rear swaybar (which also requires heavy-duty swaybar mounts, in addition to the upgraded endlinks), as well as their anti-lift kit, steering rack bushings, differential bushings, and lateral links. I think the lateral links are a waste of money (look at the price!) unless you are really hardcore. They offer a lot of adjustability (toe, camber), but otherwise, the difference isn't $500 better. The other parts all were definately a big plus, and probably the best money I've spent on my car so far. Just look at my for sale thread, all horsepower parts. Do you see any of my suspension for sale? Oh, and to repeat what AKOBS said, tires tires tires. The sooner you're off the RE92's the better.

Ok, so it looks like a sway bar kit and new endlinks. I should be able to get either a Whiteline, Cobb, or Cusco kit (endlinks and sway bars) and they would be a direct replacement correct? Thanks for the input guys.

Also speaking of your for sale thread, I shot you a PM about your snowboard racks.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:10 PM   #9
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Kartboy now sells front endlinks that are wagon-specific, and the rear endlinks are universal for non-STi Imprezas. I'll be picking up both pairs in the near future.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:32 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info, to keep her legal wouldnt I have to get a catted dp? Also the 06's donít have a cat on the up-pipe so I donít think I'll ever change it out. The reason I am holding off on the dp&ap is because I want to get some more miles on her before I endanger the warranty.
I didn't notice you were an 06. You're lucky you don't have to deal with the UP. With my mech skills, that was a looong install. On the DP, yes, you might want to go catted, although technically I believe you are illegal with *any* aftermarket DP. AK_2002_WRX had a catted helix DP for sale recently. I have no advice on the warranty issue.
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:43 PM   #11
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Ok, So I am about to order Kartboy front and rear endlinks, and Either Cusco front and rear sways, or Cobb front and rear sways, its $559 shipped either package what do you guys thing I should go with, the Cobb or Cusco bars?
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:48 PM   #12
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Well my wife has COBB on her LGT but one thing to keep in mind is they redesigned the COBB sway for the rear to compensate lowered vehicles. Do you plan on lowering yours? Its a great bar though but they sent her a new one to replace the old one that was not designed for lowered cars and clunked when hitting bumps.

Let me know if you want help installing. we can have an install meet at my house or something.
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:54 PM   #13
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I might hit you up on that install meet, thanks. I dont plan on lowering it (well, I didnt plan on modding it for a year either but boy did that idea change fast).

So if I am not going to lower it I should probably go with the Cusco?
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:55 PM   #14
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Well my wife has COBB on her LGT but one thing to keep in mind is they redesigned the COBB sway for the rear to compensate lowered vehicles. Do you plan on lowering yours? Its a great bar though but they sent her a new one to replace the old one that was not designed for lowered cars and clunked when hitting bumps.

Let me know if you want help installing. we can have an install meet at my house or something.
Mind if join you? I got my STi pinks yesterday and will need a sway. So cobb has bars for lowered and non lowered? I didnt see a different part number on their website.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:27 PM   #15
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Well it may be different for foresters and impreza but they sent her a new re-designed sway bar for the rear of her legacy.

sure we can have a big install meet when all the parts come in lol.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:31 PM   #16
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I might hit you up on that install meet, thanks. I dont plan on lowering it (well, I didnt plan on modding it for a year either but boy did that idea change fast).

So if I am not going to lower it I should probably go with the Cusco?
I think the Cobb sways are of exceptionally high quality. I recommend them. They are hollow and larger diameter than some of the others, to provide the same stiffness with less weight. I haven't researched Cusco much, but I think they are the older style, solid steel construction.

Another thing, I'm not sure on wagons, but on later model sedans, the front endlinks are steel. So, not a lot of advantage in spending an extra $120 to replace them. I replaced the plastic rear links on my car and reused the fronts.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:14 PM   #17
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Wagons are crappy plastic I think, havnt looked at them my self but I belive they are plastic all the way around.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:32 PM   #18
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And a front/rear combo of the Kartboy endlinks is $180.

I thought the wagons have plastic front links as well, but am not 100% on that at the moment.
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Old 10-05-2006, 07:00 PM   #19
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Ok I am about to order the Cobb bars and Kartboy endlinks, any final suggestions
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kartboy products are good from the shortshifters to the brakes for upgrading rear calipers and tom is good about returning emails and pm's....good cust service!
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