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Old 11-30-2012, 01:52 PM   #6301
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An air fork is a MUST. I stress that to my buddies when buying bikes. They never listen.
My wife thought spending $650 on a bike was beyond ridiculous, so I wasn't going to be allowed to swing something with a halfway decent fork. I'll see if I can find a leftover 2012 fork in the next couple of months.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:55 PM   #6302
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My wife thought spending $650 on a bike was beyond ridiculous, so I wasn't going to be allowed to swing something with a halfway decent fork. I'll see if I can find a leftover 2012 fork in the next couple of months.
Yeah, that's when you get bumped into the $1200 range. Craigslist.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:01 PM   #6303
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$4689.
Nice! I'm jealous. If I had the 5gs I'd come down to WV to try to find that bike.

Yeah DoinkMobb you really do need to get decent components. It makes all the difference.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:10 PM   #6304
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Yeah, that's when you get bumped into the $1200 range. Craigslist.
This.

Don't dump money into a $650 bike, buy somebody else's $2000 bike used.

Upgraditis inspired purchases are the single most foolish ones in the hobby.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:12 PM   #6305
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This.

Don't dump money into a $650 bike, buy somebody else's $2000 bike used.

Upgraditis inspired purchases are the single most foolish ones in the hobby.
This. Even though I plan on upgrading my wheels with some Kysrium SLs in the Spring. That will be the finishing touch on my road bike. Then, it's time to buy a mountain bike.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:15 PM   #6306
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This. Even though I plan on upgrading my wheels with some Kysrium SLs in the Spring. That will be the finishing touch on my road bike. Then, it's time to buy a mountain bike.
Upgrading one item is fine, but on a $650 bike your going to start with the fork, then realize that the wheels are crap and upgrade them. By now you've already spent more than it would have cost to buy a decent bike in the first place, and you've still got crap derailleurs, crap brakes, crap shifters...
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:29 PM   #6307
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Upgrading one item is fine, but on a $650 bike your going to start with the fork, then realize that the wheels are crap and upgrade them. By now you've already spent more than it would have cost to buy a decent bike in the first place, and you've still got crap derailleurs, crap brakes, crap shifters...
Yup. Been there and done that.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:30 PM   #6308
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Upgrading one item is fine, but on a $650 bike your going to start with the fork, then realize that the wheels are crap and upgrade them. By now you've already spent more than it would have cost to buy a decent bike in the first place, and you've still got crap derailleurs, crap brakes, crap shifters...
It never ends. The same can be said for starting with a $2000 bike as I am currently finding out.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:38 PM   #6309
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It never ends. The same can be said for starting with a $2000 bike as I am currently finding out.


I guess the $5k bike was my point at which upgaditis went away. I haven't done anything beyond replacing wear items in almost 7 years.

Although, I would like to tear it down this winter and have the frame repowdercoated, and if I'm doing that it'd be nice to bolt some fresh bits back onto it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:55 PM   #6310
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I guess the $5k bike was my point at which upgaditis went away. I haven't done anything beyond replacing wear items in almost 7 years.
Yeah, I'm in touch with that feeling as well. Once you know you're going to make a semi-serious hobby, you might as well pony up and get what you want.


Buy once, cry once, and never worry about it again.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:04 PM   #6311
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Yeah, I'm in touch with that feeling as well. Once you know you're going to make a semi-serious hobby, you might as well pony up and get what you want.


Buy once, cry once, and never worry about it again.
I thought that was the case, but now I want another bike with different geometry, and a wheel set with a powertap or crank power set up, and a set of carbon rims, and and and
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:27 PM   #6312
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Yeah, I'm in touch with that feeling as well. Once you know you're going to make a semi-serious hobby, you might as well pony up and get what you want.


Buy once, cry once, and never worry about it again.
Mine was nice in that I was able to build it from a bare frame, so that every component on it was chosen by me. Is there anything on the new bike that you' like to swap out?
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:34 PM   #6313
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Yeah, that's when you get bumped into the $1200 range. Craigslist.
The used mountain bike market in Tampa = slim to none. There's tons of road bikes, but virtually nothing in the way of mountain bikes.

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Upgrading one item is fine, but on a $650 bike your going to start with the fork, then realize that the wheels are crap and upgrade them. By now you've already spent more than it would have cost to buy a decent bike in the first place, and you've still got crap derailleurs, crap brakes, crap shifters...
The things I've upgraded (handlebar, stem, grips, pedals) are items for fit, comfort and rideability. I still need a decent saddle too. And the tires, I wanted something better matched to the trails I'd be riding.

I ride on completely flat, twisty, singletrack, in one of two gears the entire time. I never shift and never pick up enough speed to warrant "better" brakes than I have now. The drivetrain and brakes are entry level, but I really don't know what I'm missing, so I'm OK with them. They don't detract from my riding experience enough that I'm dying for better components.

The fork, however, does make me think "man this kinda sucks" as I'm violently thudding over roots for 10 miles. It takes away from the fun.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:41 PM   #6314
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OK then, especially if you have no used market in your area, but for FSM's sake, stop there!
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:57 PM   #6315
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Doink is it a 3x10 or 2x10? My favorite mod so far was dumping the big chainring for a bashguard making it a 2x10. The shifting is spot on now and I have more clearance. I don't really need the big ring since most of the stuff I ride involves a lot of climbing. You might due to the flatness?

I would upgrade the fork if you can find a deal on one.

Oh, wait until you're ready to make the next step in bike purchases and tell her it's $2k+!
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:05 PM   #6316
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OK then, especially if you have no used market in your area, but for FSM's sake, stop there!
After the fork, I think I'll be content for a while.

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Doink is it a 3x10 or 2x10? My favorite mod so far was dumping the big chainring for a bashguard making it a 2x10. The shifting is spot on now and I have more clearance. I don't really need the big ring since most of the stuff I ride involves a lot of climbing. You might due to the flatness?

I would upgrade the fork if you can find a deal on one.
I already took off the front derailleur/shifter, slapped on an n-gear, and moved the chain to the middle ring. So it's a ghetto 1x8. The chainrings are riveted together which means it's staying ghetto. It works for me.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:08 PM   #6317
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I already took off the front derailleur/shifter, slapped on an n-gear, and moved the chain to the middle ring. So it's a ghetto 1x8. The chainrings are riveted together which means it's staying ghetto. It works for me.
Perfect. I dream about building a HT 29er 1x11.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:02 PM   #6318
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Taken today. Just see the handlebars to the bottom right. Another cool, damp morning ride.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:38 PM   #6319
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:06 PM   #6320
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I thought that was the case, but now I want another bike with different geometry, and a wheel set with a powertap or crank power set up, and a set of carbon rims, and and and
A different bike is a different story.

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Mine was nice in that I was able to build it from a bare frame, so that every component on it was chosen by me. Is there anything on the new bike that you' like to swap out?
I just got the normal XT build on my Pivot. I did add a adjustable seatpost, and the wheels weren't working out for me (broken spokes every couple months) even though I had hoped they would. I tell myself those don't count because one was a new addition and the other was a replacement of something that couldn't handle the abuse I gave it.

The only thing I immediately wanted to change was to replace the big ring with a bash guard, and that came off my old bike. I was surprised to be so happy with the generic build, I had doubts about the saddle. The fanboi in me says that's because Chris Cocalis knows what he's doing...or maybe I'm just not very picky.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:09 PM   #6321
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Just took the Scalpel 29er out for my first ride. Wow, what a bike. It just begs to go fast. The wide bars and 2x10 took a bit to get used to, but I'm completely smitten. Just as fast as my hardtail 29er uphill and sooooooo much faster downhill. My Caffeine 29er does nothing better. Should I even keep it? Do you guys keep a backup mountain bike?
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:01 AM   #6322
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Taken today. Just see the handlebars to the bottom right. Another cool, damp morning ride.
Neat spot. I haven't been in a few years now. What industry brings you to Zhuhai?
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:34 AM   #6323
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Just took the Scalpel 29er out for my first ride. Wow, what a bike. It just begs to go fast. The wide bars and 2x10 took a bit to get used to, but I'm completely smitten. Just as fast as my hardtail 29er uphill and sooooooo much faster downhill. My Caffeine 29er does nothing better. Should I even keep it? Do you guys keep a backup mountain bike?
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:44 AM   #6324
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I love my giant trance, absolutely rips anything I throw at it.


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Heres a video from a couple weeks ago: https://vimeo.com/54329391

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:05 AM   #6325
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Ahh my dream bike, I see CF ones now and then, never up close though. Is there bottom linkage or a soft tail like the AL ones?
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