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Old 11-05-2001, 08:39 PM   #1
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Question Bad exhaust advice?

I went to Advance Muffler today to get an exhaust. I was looking to get a 2 1/4 inch pipe with a high flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler. The guy working there told me that he couldn't touch the cat(s) because A) my car was still under warranty (none of my car is under warranty) and B) it was against federal regulations to replace the cats if they weren't broken. Was that a bunch of BS? I know that a lot of people have had lots of custom exhaust work done, so how do you get around these problems? I don't want a cat back. Maybe I'll just buy a big @$$ chrome tip and some blue headlights and call it even . Thanks.
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Old 11-05-2001, 09:01 PM   #2
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Believe it or not h'es right.Its illegal fr him to touch or rmove the cats if there workin.Just buy your own high flow cat, install it your self ,and let him hook up the rest.
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Old 11-05-2001, 11:38 PM   #3
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A terrible thing happened at the last "Rally Cross". While flying through the air, my car happened to land pretty hard on the soft ground causing some rocks to impact my catalytic converters.

Now, being a good environmentally concious citizen, I went out immediately to replace the broken cats with a high flow cat.

The law states that you are not allowed to remove or replace your cats unless they malfunction or are damaged. Various interpretations exist depending on where in North America you are.

Now that's my story and I'm sticking with it.... What officer, was I supposed to keep the old junk broken cats? I threw them away...

Get the hint...
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Old 11-06-2001, 12:24 AM   #4
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The problem with the ol' DIY approach is that, being in college (and not having a decent metal shop that I can use)(damn business major), my access to a TIG welder and/or other necessary equipment is limited. I think that my cats might get broken this weekend when I accidentally lose control of my circular saw while my car is jacked up and the bottom half of both them get cut off. "It was my hand or the cats... I made my choice and I stand by it." Damn the man. BTW, if I WERE to install the HFCC myself, would the shop be able "work around" it to intall the new, bigger pipe... or would it be the same rotten deal as it is now? It seems like it would be easier to "go cut some 2X4s". I need that bigger pipe... (a phrase every man has said at some point). Or how about I just take them off and say they got lost? So many options... thanks.
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Old 11-06-2001, 01:39 AM   #5
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Hey,

I live just outside of Seattle, in Edmonds, and I have had aftermarket cats put on 2 of my cars in the past. I know that Edmonds Automotive will replace the cat without question. Most places will replace the cat if you tell them it is making a funny smell or rattling at certain times. If you go in with the attitude that you need to get it replaced, they will likely be happy to take your money to replace your "faulty" cat. I would advise going to a different muffler shop. Be persistant and remember, "The customer is ALWAYS right!"

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Old 11-06-2001, 10:52 AM   #6
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thedoo, you'll be amazed how far a 12-pack of good beer will get you in the college machine shop world. Eventually myself (a Humanities major) became a regular. A 12-pack here, a 12-pack there (I only ever bought two) works wonders...
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Old 11-06-2001, 12:14 PM   #7
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Ahh yes, how foolish of me to forget about the universal language... beer. I doubt it would make it out of my house, unfortunately. I'm going to a different muffler place today since my cats smell weird and seem to be making noises all the time. Thanks for the help guys!
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Old 11-06-2001, 12:18 PM   #8
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My cat's breath smells like cat food.
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Old 11-06-2001, 07:31 PM   #9
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Any one can legally do any work downstream of the cat.
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