Bad exhaust advice?

thedoo · 11-05-2001, 08:39 PM

I went to Advance Muffler today to get an exhaust. I was looking to get a 2 1/4 inch pipe with a high flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler. The guy working there told me that he couldn't touch the cat(s) because A) my car was still under warranty (none of my car is under warranty) and B) it was against federal regulations to replace the cats if they weren't broken. Was that a bunch of BS?

I know that a lot of people have had lots of custom exhaust work done, so how do you get around these problems? I don't want a cat back. Maybe I'll just buy a big @$$ chrome tip and some blue headlights and call it even

. Thanks.
Jake

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jagcars26 · 11-05-2001, 09:01 PM

Believe it or not h'es right.Its illegal fr him to touch or rmove the cats if there workin.Just buy your own high flow cat, install it your self ,and let him hook up the rest.
Rudy

JoeT · 11-05-2001, 11:38 PM

A terrible thing happened at the last "Rally Cross". While flying through the air, my car happened to land pretty hard on the soft ground causing some rocks to impact my catalytic converters.

Now, being a good environmentally concious citizen, I went out immediately to replace the broken cats with a high flow cat.

The law states that you are not allowed to remove or replace your cats unless they malfunction or are damaged. Various interpretations exist depending on where in North America you are.

Now that's my story and I'm sticking with it.... What officer, was I supposed to keep the old junk broken cats? I threw them away...

Get the hint...

thedoo · 11-06-2001, 12:24 AM

The problem with the ol' DIY approach is that, being in college (and not having a decent metal shop that I can use)(damn business major), my access to a TIG welder and/or other necessary equipment is limited. I think that my cats might get broken this weekend when I accidentally lose control of my circular saw while my car is jacked up and the bottom half of both them get cut off. "It was my hand or the cats... I made my choice and I stand by it." Damn the man. BTW, if I WERE to install the HFCC myself, would the shop be able "work around" it to intall the new, bigger pipe... or would it be the same rotten deal as it is now? It seems like it would be easier to "go cut some 2X4s". I need that bigger pipe... (a phrase every man has said at some point). Or how about I just take them off and say they got lost? So many options... thanks.
Jake

jacobhorn · 11-06-2001, 01:39 AM

Hey,

I live just outside of Seattle, in Edmonds, and I have had aftermarket cats put on 2 of my cars in the past. I know that Edmonds Automotive will replace the cat without question. Most places will replace the cat if you tell them it is making a funny smell or rattling at certain times. If you go in with the attitude that you need to get it replaced, they will likely be happy to take your money to replace your "faulty" cat. I would advise going to a different muffler shop. Be persistant and remember, "The customer is ALWAYS right!"

jacobjhorn@hotmail.com

Julian · 11-06-2001, 10:52 AM

thedoo, you'll be amazed how far a 12-pack of good beer will get you in the college machine shop world. Eventually myself (a Humanities major) became a regular. A 12-pack here, a 12-pack there (I only ever bought two) works wonders...

thedoo · 11-06-2001, 12:14 PM

Ahh yes, how foolish of me to forget about the universal language... beer. I doubt it would make it out of my house, unfortunately. I'm going to a different muffler place today since my cats smell weird and seem to be making noises all the time. Thanks for the help guys!

Jake

thedoo · 11-06-2001, 12:18 PM

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

yamarocket630 · 11-06-2001, 07:31 PM

Any one can legally do any work downstream of the cat.

11-05-2001, 08:39 PM	#1
thedoo Scooby Newbie Member#: 7897 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 1997 Impreza L Wagon Acadia Green Metallic	Bad exhaust advice? I went to Advance Muffler today to get an exhaust. I was looking to get a 2 1/4 inch pipe with a high flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler. The guy working there told me that he couldn't touch the cat(s) because A) my car was still under warranty (none of my car is under warranty) and B) it was against federal regulations to replace the cats if they weren't broken. Was that a bunch of BS? I know that a lot of people have had lots of custom exhaust work done, so how do you get around these problems? I don't want a cat back. Maybe I'll just buy a big @$$ chrome tip and some blue headlights and call it even . Thanks. Jake * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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11-05-2001, 09:01 PM	#2
jagcars26 Scooby Specialist Member#: 2394 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Bel Air Md. Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT wagon 2009 Forester X	Believe it or not h'es right.Its illegal fr him to touch or rmove the cats if there workin.Just buy your own high flow cat, install it your self ,and let him hook up the rest. Rudy

11-05-2001, 11:38 PM	#3
JoeT Scooby Specialist Member#: 3956 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Vehicle: 2000 Turbo Legacy GT Titanium	A terrible thing happened at the last "Rally Cross". While flying through the air, my car happened to land pretty hard on the soft ground causing some rocks to impact my catalytic converters. Now, being a good environmentally concious citizen, I went out immediately to replace the broken cats with a high flow cat. The law states that you are not allowed to remove or replace your cats unless they malfunction or are damaged. Various interpretations exist depending on where in North America you are. Now that's my story and I'm sticking with it.... What officer, was I supposed to keep the old junk broken cats? I threw them away... Get the hint...

11-06-2001, 12:24 AM	#4
thedoo Scooby Newbie Member#: 7897 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 1997 Impreza L Wagon Acadia Green Metallic	The problem with the ol' DIY approach is that, being in college (and not having a decent metal shop that I can use)(damn business major), my access to a TIG welder and/or other necessary equipment is limited. I think that my cats might get broken this weekend when I accidentally lose control of my circular saw while my car is jacked up and the bottom half of both them get cut off. "It was my hand or the cats... I made my choice and I stand by it." Damn the man. BTW, if I WERE to install the HFCC myself, would the shop be able "work around" it to intall the new, bigger pipe... or would it be the same rotten deal as it is now? It seems like it would be easier to "go cut some 2X4s". I need that bigger pipe... (a phrase every man has said at some point). Or how about I just take them off and say they got lost? So many options... thanks. Jake

11-06-2001, 01:39 AM	#5
jacobhorn Scooby Specialist Member#: 5122 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Maple Leaf Vehicle: 1998 Legacy GT LTD '02 HD Softail Deuce	Hey, I live just outside of Seattle, in Edmonds, and I have had aftermarket cats put on 2 of my cars in the past. I know that Edmonds Automotive will replace the cat without question. Most places will replace the cat if you tell them it is making a funny smell or rattling at certain times. If you go in with the attitude that you need to get it replaced, they will likely be happy to take your money to replace your "faulty" cat. I would advise going to a different muffler shop. Be persistant and remember, "The customer is ALWAYS right!" jacobjhorn@hotmail.com

11-06-2001, 10:52 AM	#6
Julian Scooby Specialist Member#: 1182 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Ventura, CA Vehicle: MY00 RS BRP	thedoo, you'll be amazed how far a 12-pack of good beer will get you in the college machine shop world. Eventually myself (a Humanities major) became a regular. A 12-pack here, a 12-pack there (I only ever bought two) works wonders...

11-06-2001, 12:14 PM	#7
thedoo Scooby Newbie Member#: 7897 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 1997 Impreza L Wagon Acadia Green Metallic	Ahh yes, how foolish of me to forget about the universal language... beer. I doubt it would make it out of my house, unfortunately. I'm going to a different muffler place today since my cats smell weird and seem to be making noises all the time. Thanks for the help guys! Jake

11-06-2001, 12:18 PM	#8
thedoo Scooby Newbie Member#: 7897 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 1997 Impreza L Wagon Acadia Green Metallic	My cat's breath smells like cat food.

11-06-2001, 07:31 PM	#9
yamarocket630 Scooby Specialist Member#: 9436 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: My member# is lower than yours Vehicle: 05 Saab 9-5 Aero	Any one can legally do any work downstream of the cat.