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Old 10-12-2006, 02:29 AM   #1
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Have you ever had a big race and wanted just 50 more HP? Now you can with NitroBooster – “ chemical supercharging”. NitroBooster is designed to safely increase the horsepower of your Boost Cooler by 30-50HP. It contains just the right amount of nitro methane to increase HP while not creating a lean condition. Benefits include:
1. Safely gives you an instant 30-50 HP.
2. Boosts octane characteristics.
3. Lowers engine combustion temps.

NitroBooster FAQ

1. Why nitro methane? Nitro methane donates oxygen as it is combusted – think of it as “ chemical supercharging”. It has excellent burn characteristics in that it acts as an octane enhancer with most fuels.
2. Why not just add to the fuel tank? Nitro methane is corrosive and needs system parts made from stainless steel, viton etc. adding to a fuel system made out of steel, rubber etc will corrode these parts.
3. Will it mix with water? Methanol? NitroBooster is made to mix well and stay in suspension with water and methanol.
4. What power increase can I expect? A 30-50 HP increase has been consistently demonstrated when used as directed.
5. Is it safe for my engine? NitroBooster is safe when used as directed. Of course, if the amount is increased by putting more than 8 oz per 2-qt reservoir, a lean condition will result. NitroBooster increases the octane of fuel and will reduce the chance of detonation but will cause a lean condition if you use more than directed.
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Old 10-12-2006, 02:34 PM   #2
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I have sold it but I have never used it...I will see if I can ge a customer to chime in...
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:23 PM   #3
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Would you need to retune the whole setup to run this and to actually get 30-50 more hp?
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:58 PM   #4
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Of course you would need a retune...
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:04 PM   #5
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I was under the impression a tune would not be required. When you run out, you would have to get re-tuned again which doesn't make sense unless you have map switching ability.
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:46 PM   #6
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So...only 8oz per 2 qt of water/meth?..thats some potent stuff.

if you had a AP that would be sweet to have a "NITRO" map.

What kinda octane does this equate to?
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:32 PM   #7
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Not sure on the octane.

I called Snow and Greg said no tune is required. As long as you're tuned for 50/50 methanol mix, the NitroBooster is totally safe. I might try it on the dyno this Saturday and I will post my results here.
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Old 10-13-2006, 02:52 PM   #8
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isn't that the same stuff i put in my RC car, nitomethane. $26/gal, i have like 5 gal's at home. Hell, im gona add some to my mixture tonight.

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Old 10-13-2006, 03:01 PM   #9
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Not sure on the octane.

I called Snow and Greg said no tune is required. As long as you're tuned for 50/50 methanol mix, the NitroBooster is totally safe. I might try it on the dyno this Saturday and I will post my results here.
That would be cool, thanks!
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:01 PM   #10
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I unerstand it's safe, but are you going to get good power out of it without tuning? Water is SAFE without tuning but won't make much power (if not loosing some)
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:05 PM   #11
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So approx 13% is 8 oz nitro to 60 oz 50/50 , the max recommended. 2l reservior = 68 oz, put 8 oz nitro in, fill remainder with 50/50)


13.5 % is 2.5 cups per gallon of 50/50, but that's lightly above snow's recommendation

2 cups per gallon 50/50 is 11.1% - sounds like a winner.

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Old 10-15-2006, 09:41 PM   #12
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I'm going to the dyno Tuesday and I might try this.
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:36 PM   #13
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I unerstand it's safe, but are you going to get good power out of it without tuning? Water is SAFE without tuning but won't make much power (if not loosing some)
Its designed to work with a methanol tune. No tune is required as long as you're already tuned for methanol. I wasn't able to try it out on the dyno since I didn't have enough time to stop by Snow Performance Sat. morning before my dyno.
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:00 PM   #14
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isn't that the same stuff i put in my RC car, nitomethane. $26/gal, i have like 5 gal's at home. Hell, im gona add some to my mixture tonight.

jk.
Yes, it is the same stuff. The only problem is the two-stroke oil that is blended in with the methanol/nitromethane. If there was an easy way to separate it out, you'd be in business!
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Old 10-17-2006, 10:04 AM   #15
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Yes, it is the same stuff. The only problem is the two-stroke oil that is blended in with the methanol/nitromethane. If there was an easy way to separate it out, you'd be in business!
Alittle two-stroke oil cant hurt can it
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:08 PM   #16
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Its designed to work with a methanol tune. No tune is required as long as you're already tuned for methanol. I wasn't able to try it out on the dyno since I didn't have enough time to stop by Snow Performance Sat. morning before my dyno.
Why would it give you more power if you DONT tune for it? Like running race gas on a race gas tune......yeah it can provide a level of protection....but that's specifically because you haven't tuned to go after the advantage the race gas offers. no?
I don't really mean to be arguing.....just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:52 PM   #17
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Why would it give you more power if you DONT tune for it? Like running race gas on a race gas tune......yeah it can provide a level of protection....but that's specifically because you haven't tuned to go after the advantage the race gas offers. no?
I don't really mean to be arguing.....just doesn't make sense to me.
I can't explain why, so why don't you call Snow and ask them? I was told by Snow Performance that NO TUNING is needed and I'll take their word for it.
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Old 10-17-2006, 05:23 PM   #18
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30-50hp in a wrx/sti without a tune? LOL, I don't believe it.
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:14 AM   #19
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:40 PM   #20
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Okay, excuse the crappy dyno plot because my car started to pull timing with or without this stuff. I think I got some bad gas at a small station. It really sucked because I know the numbers would of been better.



Blue line is with Snows NitroBooster 5 minutes apart. My A/F looks horrible too but I'm not sure if thats from bad gas or tune. When I left the tuner, my dyno plot looked nothing like this one.

Anyway, I did gain 19lbs of torque at the wheels. It also shows spool is quicker. It didn't seam to affect my A/F either.

Can someone else grab of bottle of this and dyno their setup?
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:40 PM   #21
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The added power potential from Nitro comes from the "chemical" addition of oxygen. Much like NOS.

I run it in the model RC stuff too. They sell premixed bottles of several nitro blend percentages with Meth... Even on the RC stuff, the more Nitro, the more power, but you have to richen the needle. It also makes the tune on the RC stuff more delicate to set.


Edit: I ain't putting it in my scoob!
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:38 AM   #22
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How much is this stuff? I'm heading out to harman motive next friday... if its not too much I'd be willing to throw some in and see some dyno results. I'm sure Dan wouldn't mind doing an extra pull if theres no tuning involved either. I'll be running 100% meth though... I read somewhere in the thread thats it meant to be run with 50/50. Think this will make a significant difference?

Edit: N/m... just clicked on the link and got the price... haha. Ultimate CC, you have pm. I'll post up before/after dyno's after nov 10th.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:43 AM   #23
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:04 PM   #24
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The added power potential from Nitro comes from the "chemical" addition of oxygen. Much like NOS.

I run it in the model RC stuff too. They sell premixed bottles of several nitro blend percentages with Meth... Even on the RC stuff, the more Nitro, the more power, but you have to richen the needle. It also makes the tune on the RC stuff more delicate to set.


Edit: I ain't putting it in my scoob!
This is safe to add with your methanol setup and doesn't make it run lean when you use as directed.

Just look at my A/F ratio for proof!

I'm curious if you can add this with 100% methanol though. I used mine with Snows brand of Methanol which is close to 50/50.
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I can't explain why, so why don't you call Snow and ask them? I was told by Snow Performance that NO TUNING is needed and I'll take their word for it.
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It is just like the turbonator....
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