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Old 11-07-2001, 09:12 PM   #1
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Unhappy Twoing WRX behind RV with RV mounted tow hitch

Can any one help me find the under car brackets for 2002 wrx? All the suppliers that i have contacted tell me that there is nothing available?
Is it possible to use brackets for a regular Impeza?

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Old 11-07-2001, 09:26 PM   #2
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your AWD system isn't going to like you after you've towed your vehicle with all 4 wheels on the ground. If you're going to do any long-distance towing of your WRX, I strongly suggest you getting a trailer and carrying your WRX on that.

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Old 11-08-2001, 03:23 AM   #3
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You will have to put it on some sort of contraption with no wheels touching the ground
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Old 11-08-2001, 07:43 AM   #4
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Why is that? There's some mechanism that I'm obviously not understanding. What's the difference between what he wants to do and rolling along in neutral after you've accelerated? It's not like any one or pair of wheels is spinning faster (i.e., like would happen if two wheels were off the ground).

Please explain...
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Old 11-08-2001, 10:52 AM   #5
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Check your owners manual about towing. Basically, you can not two your Subarus with any wheels on ground w/o risk of damage the tranny. And if you think all four wheels are always rotate in the same speed, you are wrong. It is ture only if you go straight lines w/o any turns.
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Old 11-08-2001, 10:56 AM   #6
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This is a reply I rec'd from Subaru???

Dear Mr. Betts:

Thank you for taking the time to contact us. I am not aware that Hitch Suppliers do not have a tow bar for the '02 WRX models. The bodies of all of the '02 Impreza models are the same, so if one is available for the '02 Impreza, then that is applicable to your '02 Impreza WRX Wagon.

AWD Subaru vehicles with manual transmision can be towed with all four wheels on the ground and the transmission in neutral or with ALL FOUR WHEELS OFF the ground on a trailer with the parking brake firmly set. Towing must NEVER be attempted with only TWO wheels ON the ground or TWO wheels ON a dolly. Distance and speed will not create any concerns.

When towing a manual transmission model with all four wheels on the ground, the steering must NOT be locked. Move the ignition key to the first position away from 'LOCK' and confirm that the steering wheel can be turned from one side to the other.

Other precautions:
* The Parking Brake must be released when towing with any wheels on the ground.

* Auxiliary Brake energizers may be required to preserve the braking effectiveness of the motor home. The additional load of the 'dinghy' will increase braking distance. This type of equipment is available through motor home dealers and/or camping equipment/hitch retailers.

Please consult with these experts for your specific application and usage.

Thanks for the opportunity to assist. Best wishes!

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I wish to to tour my WRX behind my motor home, using a tow bar
which keeps all four wheels on the road.
But everyone tells me that the brackets that fit underneath the car are
not available for the WRX 2002. Can I use brakets that
a regular Impreza.

Regards
David Betts

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Old 11-08-2001, 04:30 PM   #7
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That's kinda what I thought. It didn't make any sense not to be able to tow with all four wheels on the ground.

Foxbat: I know all four wheels aren't going to turn at exactly the same speed all the time. I'm not a fool. I was mostly referring to the potential damage of towing a car with a traditional (i.e., two-wheel) tow truck or some similar device (like some towing apparatus for cars).
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Old 11-08-2001, 04:43 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the responses.
I know that I can tow with all 4 whells on the road...

But does any one know where I can buy the damn towing brackets for a 2002 Impreza.......
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:03 PM   #9
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Old thread resurrection! But the only one I could actually find on this topic.

Any other owners out there flat towing a WRX or STI (or just base Imprezza) behind an RV? Shopping for a manual Subaru now and wondering if any particular model is better or worse.
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:18 PM   #10
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do not tow Subarus on the ground. Maybe the BRZ, maybe.

also leave old threads to die, jesus.
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:26 PM   #11
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do not tow Subarus on the ground. Maybe the BRZ, maybe.

also leave old threads to die, jesus.
Read in multiple places that all manual subarus can be flat towed.

Would you prefer I start a new thread to ask instead? This already had all the relevant data (including that they can be towed)
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:26 PM   #12
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do not tow Subarus on the ground. Maybe the BRZ, maybe.

also leave old threads to die, jesus.
You absolutely, 100% can flat-tow a Suby with a tow bar.

It is no different/harder on your AWD system then coasting or driving down the road.

Jesus, stop spreading crappy info.


Hell, you have a mechanical oil pump, you could technically tow it in gear.

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Old 01-27-2016, 02:34 PM   #13
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Old thread resurrection! But the only one I could actually find on this topic.

Any other owners out there flat towing a WRX or STI (or just base Imprezza) behind an RV? Shopping for a manual Subaru now and wondering if any particular model is better or worse.
https://www.etrailer.com/vm/Subaru/Impreza/towbar

Seems like there are some options out there now.
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:57 PM   #14
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https://www.etrailer.com/vm/Subaru/Impreza/towbar

Seems like there are some options out there now.
Thanks! Is one of these systems required, too?
https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Tow...g_Systems.aspx
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:29 PM   #15
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do not tow Subarus on the ground. Maybe the BRZ, maybe.

also leave old threads to die, jesus.
Curious where your source is that this can't be done? And why not bring an old thread back if it's topical?
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:47 PM   #16
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Its really not good for the differentials to tow the car flat.
For short trip it probably won't do too much damage, but over a longer distance you will add necessary wear to the system. Just disconnect the axles and you will be fine
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:11 AM   #17
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Its really not good for the differentials to tow the car flat.
For short trip it probably won't do too much damage, but over a longer distance you will add necessary wear to the system. Just disconnect the axles and you will be fine
Do tell, how is it any harder on the diffs vs. driving or coasting the car?
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Do tell, how is it any harder on the diffs vs. driving or coasting the car?
I'm with you. Subaru says it's ok to do but the so called exports say doom and gloom with no facts other than a hunch. It's not just this thread, but countless others I've read on here that makes statements sound like tested fact when they are simply not.

Really irritating when you are looking for real information and getting 20 hunches made to sound as if they came from the owners manual.

From Subaru
Towing a Subaru behind a motorhome or a tow truck
The following is from Subaru Helpline Update, Feb 1999
updated November 2009 about automatic and CVT transmission
There has been a change to the policy regarding towing of Subaru vehicles behind motorhomes. The following applies to 1990 through present model year Legacy (Including Outback), 1993 through present year Impreza (incl. Outback Sport), and 1992 through present year SVX. (Note: should also include 1998 through present year Forester. Joe)

The factory hitch is 1.25" a 2" hitch can be installed aftermarket

Manual Transmission:
All Wheel Drive vehicles can be towed with all four wheels on the ground or with all four wheels off the ground on a trailer but towing an AWD vehicle must never be attempted with only two wheels on the ground or two wheels on a dolly.

STI, to tow: DCCD must be in manual mode, with the DCCD control dial set to the furthest rearward position (rolled toward rear seat).

Front Wheel Drive vehicles can be towed with all four wheels on the ground in neutral or with the two front wheels off the ground.

Automatic Transmission

November 2009. Automatic transmission and CVT vehicles can be towed with all wheels on the ground in an emergency for very short distance (under 31 miles) and at very slow speed (under 20mph).

AWD automatic 4 and 5 speed vehicles should not be towed with any wheels on the ground. The vehicle can only be towed on a trailer with all 4 wheels off the ground and the transmission in park.

Note: always inspect and check your car- radiator, coolant, all hoses, all fluids, brakes, towing equipment, lights etc
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Good to know even the STI has a way to do it. My only fear at this point is total cost, rock chips, and ground clearance during snowy conditions....
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Do tell, how is it any harder on the diffs vs. driving or coasting the car?
It depends on if it has active or passive cooling on the differentials. If its purely passive then it won't matter but if its active it would require the engine to be on to prevent overheating. (esp on the central diff)
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^^^

Right. So in other words, it's completely fine to do with the car in question.


It is 100% fine, per Subaru and per common sense. Please stop spreading misinformation.
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It depends on if it has active or passive cooling on the differentials. If its purely passive then it won't matter but if its active it would require the engine to be on to prevent overheating. (esp on the central diff)
What is active differential cooling?
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What is active differential cooling?
He's implying there are cars out there that have an engine (or electronically driven) lubrication and/or coolant pump for the differentials.

Maybe there are (think he could name one? ) but none that we're talking about here.

It was his attempt to backpedal out of his misstatement.
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I always thought you had to flatbead a Subaru... never tow.
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Old 01-28-2016, 12:55 PM   #25
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If you go to http://www.subaru.com/customer-support.html and search on the phrase motor home, you'll get the following hit:

What recommendations does Subaru have about towing my vehicle behind a motor home?

AWD Subaru vehicles with automatic transmission can only be towed with all four wheels OFF of the ground. AWD Subaru vehicles with manual transmission can be towed with all four wheels on the ground and the transmission in neutral. When towing a manual transmission Subaru behind your motor home, you would put the transmission in neutral and have the key turned to the first position from "OFF". As all new models are equipped with digital odometers, mileage should not accumulate when being towed.


So, when you arrive, your Subaru's battery will likely be dead because the ignition key has been in the "ACC" position, unless you pulled some fuses or disconnected the battery. I wonder how this works with push button start.

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