Stop the attack on Motorsports in the Valley

JordyB · 10-23-2006, 12:57 AM

Taken from AKMS:

Quote:

Your favorite pastime is under attack from a proposed change to Matanuska-Susitna Borough ordinances, which will change Race Tracks from a Core Area conditional use, to a borough wide conditional use. This does not just apply to normal tracks (dirt or asphalt) but ALL forms of racing, whether they take place on land, ice, or snow and involve cars, motorcycles, ATVs, or snow machines.

Please take the time to read the draft ordinance, and existing ordinance MSB 17.60 Conditional Uses and MSB 17.63 Race Track Regulations. We must all get involved in this if we want our sport to survive. There is a petition available for you to sign. Please add your name to the list of Motorsports supporters.

Written comments on the draft ordinance should be received in the borough planning office no later than 5:00 p.m. Thursday, November 9, 2006.
Their address is:
Matanuska-Susitna Borough Department of Planning and Land Use
350 E. Dahlia
Palmer, AK 99645
By email to planning@matsugov.us or by Fax to (907) 745-9876. Please clearly indicate you are responding to draft ordinance to MSB 17.60 and 17.63.

If you have further questions on this item please contact Eileen Probasco at 746-7431, or via e-mail at eprobasco@matsugov.us.

Time is short. We need your help. Thank you.

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Danfd · 10-23-2006, 01:12 AM

what does this mean? what will happen if it goes thru?

JordyB · 10-23-2006, 01:56 AM

I would read http://www.alaskamotorsports.com/for...ad.php?t=28441 and the PDF links posted in the post above...loooks like they are not highlighted or underlined but they are there.

AKSubie · 10-23-2006, 02:00 AM

In short, it measn anything of motorsports activities, whether drag racing, oval racing, road course racing, Auto-x, Rally-x, road rally, snow machine racing, ice racing, etc.. must pass a review board, engineering board, conditional use permti application process and... well basically, no more motorsports in the valley.

EvolvedAK · 10-23-2006, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSubie

In short, it measn anything of motorsports activities, whether drag racing, oval racing, road course racing, Auto-x, Rally-x, road rally, snow machine racing, ice racing, etc.. must pass a review board, engineering board, conditional use permti application process and... well basically, no more motorsports in the valley.

You type whatever needs to be said towards this. And I will sign it.

Jaylyons1 · 10-23-2006, 03:10 AM

same, ill help out in any way I can

soldmyboxster · 10-23-2006, 03:24 AM

Does this apply to activities that occur on base, such as autocross?

EvolvedAK · 10-23-2006, 03:27 AM

I do not see how this would be a smart idea anyways. By pretty much having the events shut down. Such as the drag strip, this would cause street racing to increase. Why would they want to increase the amount of danger? The drag strip is built to legally have people race so it's not done on public roads where people can get hurt. Makes no logical sense, all the races professional establish help reduce the numbers.

Jaylyons1 · 10-23-2006, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian_i

I do not see how this would be a smart idea anyways. By pretty much having the events shut down. Such as the drag strip, this would cause street racing to increase. Why would they want to increase the amount of danger? The drag strip is built to legally have people race so it's not done on public roads where people can get hurt. Makes no logical sense, all the races professional establish help reduce the numbers.

yea, only place that I race is on the track. Figure if anyone really wants to race they can meet me there ^_^ but if it gets shut down, I might be forced to go off a cliff or something

EvolvedAK · 10-23-2006, 03:40 AM

Suicide threats!! That's the key!!....however me and Jay would probably be kicked out of the military haha..

Jaylyons1 · 10-23-2006, 03:43 AM

didnt say it was on purpose. It will just force me to find other ways of amusing myself, and in the process who knows how many hunders of people will get run over by m... disgruntled drivers...

02redwagone · 10-23-2006, 03:44 AM

< - signed the petition # 31.

Jaylyons1 · 10-23-2006, 03:45 AM

yea im 33 ^_^

akryder86 · 10-23-2006, 02:53 PM

I'm #75

Danfd · 10-23-2006, 09:26 PM

it doesnt say that it will eliminate racing in the valley, just that it must pass a review board. Which i'm sure any legal drag racing at the stip will do, simply because it brings money into the city. I doubt this is as big a deal as you are making it out to be.

Mavrik · 10-23-2006, 09:53 PM

Why would they make every event at the raceway pass some board meeting for approval? Sounds like a load of BS to me...

And the only racing I do in the valley is at the Alaska park drag for uh... duh...

drag and Autocross. And I love autocross out there so if this is a big deal were do I sign to prevent this?

02redwagone · 10-23-2006, 10:21 PM

http://www.petitiononline.com/msb1760/petition.html

EvolvedAK · 10-23-2006, 10:32 PM

.......#104

AK_2.5RS · 10-23-2006, 11:42 PM

.....#113

Jaylyons1 · 10-24-2006, 07:13 AM

wow, it shot up there!

Mavrik · 10-24-2006, 12:13 PM

..... 147

Trox · 11-20-2006, 10:49 AM

The PLANNING COMMISSION meeting is tonight at 6:00 in Palmer at the assembly chambers 350 East Dahlia Ave, Palmer, Alaska 99645

Tonight’s agenda

November 20, 2006
Regular Meeting
Assembly Chambers
6:00 p.m.
I CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, AND DETERMINATION OF QUORUM
II APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IV CONSENT AGENDA
( *All items listed with an asterisk (*) are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Commission and will be approved by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Commission Member so request, in which case the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda).
V MINUTES
*A. November 6, 2006
VI INTRODUCTION FOR PUBLIC HEARING ( Suggested Public Hearing, December 4, 2006)
*A. Resolution 06-59 : Coastal Management Plan Amendment.
*B. Resolution 06-56 : Matanuska-Susitna Borough Prison Site Selection.
VII COMMITTEE REPORTS
VIII AGENCY/STAFF REPORTS
IX AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION ( three minutes per person, for items not scheduled for public hearing )
X LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS
XI PUBLIC HEARING ( to begin at 6:30 p.m . - three minutes per person )
A. Resolution 06-55 : Application to modify existing beverage dispensary conditional use permit to allow outside service on a deck at Robin's landing in Big Lake.
B. Resolution 06-58: Amending race track regulations from being a conditional use in the Core Area, to requiring a conditional use permit boroughwide.
XII CORRESPONDENCE & INFORMATION
A. Items scheduled for upcoming Planning Commission meetings.
B. Assembly regular meeting minutes, September 5, 2006.
XIII UNFINISHED BUSINESS
XIV NEW BUSINESS
A. Resolution 06-57 : Requesting planning division assistance for the update of the Denali State Park Special Land Use District (SPUD), MSB 17.17.
B. Talkeetna Special Land Use District/Christiansen Lake, Lake Management Plan Update.
XVI COMMISSION BUSINESS
XVII DIRECTOR AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
XVIII ADJOURNMENT (Mandatory Midnight)
In order to be eligible to file an appeal from a decision of the Planning Commission, a person must be designated an interested party pursuant to MSB 15.39.010. An interested party means, (a) the applicant before the Planning Commission; or (b) any person affected by the decision who appeared before the Planning Commission and made an oral or written presentation. The procedures governing appeals to the Board of Adjustment & Appeals are contained in MSB 15.39.010-250, which is available on the borough Internet home page, (http://www.matsugov.us), in the Borough Clerk's office, or at various libraries within the borough.

rallygoddess · 11-21-2006, 04:50 PM

Curious, how many of you were at the meeting last night to show your support and speak to the Planning Commission?

AKSubie · 11-21-2006, 05:15 PM

Unfortunately not I.

I too would like to know though, and what was said.

Mavrik · 11-21-2006, 05:25 PM

I was unable to make it either.

11-21-2006, 04:50 PM	#23
rallygoddess Scooby Newbie Member#: 68035 Join Date: Aug 2004	So, who went? Curious, how many of you were at the meeting last night to show your support and speak to the Planning Commission?

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10-23-2006, 01:12 AM	#2
Danfd Scooby Newbie Member#: 120621 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Eagle River, AK Vehicle: 2002 wrx wagon silver	what does this mean? what will happen if it goes thru?

10-23-2006, 01:56 AM	#3
JordyB Scooby Specialist Member#: 20328 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: AKIC Vehicle: '05 FXT - '98 Foz '07 Legacy spec.B	I would read http://www.alaskamotorsports.com/for...ad.php?t=28441 and the PDF links posted in the post above...loooks like they are not highlighted or underlined but they are there.

10-23-2006, 02:00 AM	#4
AKSubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 6214 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Wasilly Vehicle: 92 Corrado SLC 01.5 S4	In short, it measn anything of motorsports activities, whether drag racing, oval racing, road course racing, Auto-x, Rally-x, road rally, snow machine racing, ice racing, etc.. must pass a review board, engineering board, conditional use permti application process and... well basically, no more motorsports in the valley.

10-23-2006, 03:10 AM	#6
Jaylyons1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 113884 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore, MD Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Black on Gold	same, ill help out in any way I can

10-23-2006, 03:24 AM	#7
soldmyboxster Scooby Specialist Member#: 65520 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: International Location: teh UK Vehicle: '11 M3 Coupe	Does this apply to activities that occur on base, such as autocross?

10-23-2006, 03:27 AM	#8
EvolvedAK Scooby Specialist Member#: 100354 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage, Alaska Vehicle: 2002 Chevy2DLevee AKLGT's Living Accessory	I do not see how this would be a smart idea anyways. By pretty much having the events shut down. Such as the drag strip, this would cause street racing to increase. Why would they want to increase the amount of danger? The drag strip is built to legally have people race so it's not done on public roads where people can get hurt. Makes no logical sense, all the races professional establish help reduce the numbers.

10-23-2006, 03:40 AM	#10
EvolvedAK Scooby Specialist Member#: 100354 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage, Alaska Vehicle: 2002 Chevy2DLevee AKLGT's Living Accessory	Suicide threats!! That's the key!!....however me and Jay would probably be kicked out of the military haha..

10-23-2006, 03:43 AM	#11
Jaylyons1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 113884 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore, MD Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Black on Gold	didnt say it was on purpose. It will just force me to find other ways of amusing myself, and in the process who knows how many hunders of people will get run over by m... disgruntled drivers...

10-23-2006, 03:44 AM	#12
02redwagone Scooby Specialist Member#: 87067 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Oregon Coast/AK Vehicle: 02 Old but tasty SRP	< - signed the petition # 31.

10-23-2006, 03:45 AM	#13
Jaylyons1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 113884 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore, MD Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Black on Gold	yea im 33 ^_^

10-23-2006, 02:53 PM	#14
akryder86 Scooby Newbie Member#: 74916 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage, Alaska Vehicle: 1993 Impreza L 1989 Turbo Racescort	I'm #75

10-23-2006, 09:26 PM	#15
Danfd Scooby Newbie Member#: 120621 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Eagle River, AK Vehicle: 2002 wrx wagon silver	it doesnt say that it will eliminate racing in the valley, just that it must pass a review board. Which i'm sure any legal drag racing at the stip will do, simply because it brings money into the city. I doubt this is as big a deal as you are making it out to be.

10-23-2006, 09:53 PM	#16
Mavrik Scooby Guru Member#: 90347 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage AK Vehicle: 2013 BRZ & Imp 2.5RS Yamaha FZ8	Why would they make every event at the raceway pass some board meeting for approval? Sounds like a load of BS to me... And the only racing I do in the valley is at the Alaska park drag for uh... duh... drag and Autocross. And I love autocross out there so if this is a big deal were do I sign to prevent this?

10-23-2006, 10:21 PM	#17
02redwagone Scooby Specialist Member#: 87067 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Oregon Coast/AK Vehicle: 02 Old but tasty SRP	http://www.petitiononline.com/msb1760/petition.html

10-23-2006, 10:32 PM	#18
EvolvedAK Scooby Specialist Member#: 100354 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage, Alaska Vehicle: 2002 Chevy2DLevee AKLGT's Living Accessory	.......#104

10-23-2006, 11:42 PM	#19
AK_2.5RS Scooby Specialist Member#: 114704 Join Date: May 2006 Location: EVERYWHERE Vehicle: 1990 Mazda Miata BRIGHT ASS RED	.....#113

10-24-2006, 07:13 AM	#20
Jaylyons1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 113884 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore, MD Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Black on Gold	wow, it shot up there!

10-24-2006, 12:13 PM	#21
Mavrik Scooby Guru Member#: 90347 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage AK Vehicle: 2013 BRZ & Imp 2.5RS Yamaha FZ8	..... 147

11-20-2006, 10:49 AM	#22
Trox Scooby Newbie Member#: 36785 Join Date: May 2003 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Wasilla Vehicle: 05 Broke POS Metro 1.3L of power	The PLANNING COMMISSION meeting is tonight at 6:00 in Palmer at the assembly chambers 350 East Dahlia Ave, Palmer, Alaska 99645 Tonight’s agenda November 20, 2006 Regular Meeting Assembly Chambers 6:00 p.m. I CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, AND DETERMINATION OF QUORUM II APPROVAL OF AGENDA III PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IV CONSENT AGENDA ( All items listed with an asterisk () are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Commission and will be approved by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Commission Member so request, in which case the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda). V MINUTES A. November 6, 2006 VI INTRODUCTION FOR PUBLIC HEARING ( Suggested Public Hearing, December 4, 2006) A. Resolution 06-59 : Coastal Management Plan Amendment. B. Resolution 06-56 : Matanuska-Susitna Borough Prison Site Selection. VII COMMITTEE REPORTS VIII AGENCY/STAFF REPORTS IX AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION ( three minutes per person, for items not scheduled for public hearing ) X LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS XI PUBLIC HEARING ( to begin at 6:30 p.m . - three minutes per person ) A. Resolution 06-55 : Application to modify existing beverage dispensary conditional use permit to allow outside service on a deck at Robin's landing in Big Lake. B. Resolution 06-58: Amending race track regulations from being a conditional use in the Core Area, to requiring a conditional use permit boroughwide.* XII CORRESPONDENCE & INFORMATION A. Items scheduled for upcoming Planning Commission meetings. B. Assembly regular meeting minutes, September 5, 2006. XIII UNFINISHED BUSINESS XIV NEW BUSINESS A. Resolution 06-57 : Requesting planning division assistance for the update of the Denali State Park Special Land Use District (SPUD), MSB 17.17. B. Talkeetna Special Land Use District/Christiansen Lake, Lake Management Plan Update. XVI COMMISSION BUSINESS XVII DIRECTOR AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS XVIII ADJOURNMENT (Mandatory Midnight) In order to be eligible to file an appeal from a decision of the Planning Commission, a person must be designated an interested party pursuant to MSB 15.39.010. An interested party means, (a) the applicant before the Planning Commission; or (b) any person affected by the decision who appeared before the Planning Commission and made an oral or written presentation. The procedures governing appeals to the Board of Adjustment & Appeals are contained in MSB 15.39.010-250, which is available on the borough Internet home page, (http://www.matsugov.us), in the Borough Clerk's office, or at various libraries within the borough.

11-21-2006, 05:15 PM	#24
AKSubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 6214 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Wasilly Vehicle: 92 Corrado SLC 01.5 S4	Unfortunately not I. I too would like to know though, and what was said.

11-21-2006, 05:25 PM	#25
Mavrik Scooby Guru Member#: 90347 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage AK Vehicle: 2013 BRZ & Imp 2.5RS Yamaha FZ8	I was unable to make it either.