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Old 04-13-2007, 11:26 PM   #76
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Default 02 to 04 front end swap

Remember I haven't done this swap yet, so all I know is in the threads on this subject. I don't know if the hood just bolts up to the old latches, anyone???

If you go to your subaru dealer and ask him to show you the core support parts drawing you will see that it is a series of 6 parts that they only sell as a set for $315. There are 3 horizontal pieces, 2 below the radiator and 1 above it. Then there is 1 vertical piece tha runs up the center of the radiator. Then there are the headlight buckets that appear to bolt to the sides of the radiator. I assume that since the headlights are different shapes the brackets they attach to must be different?
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Trying to switch and convert to the 04 or 05. Do you know if the hood actualy just bolts right on to the 02 latches? Does the headlights just hold in by the upper radaitor support or is there actual buckets for the headlights to be held in?
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:54 PM   #77
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So what holds the headlights in? Just the upper radaitor suport or core suport? Or is there actual buckets? Does the 04 hood bolt onto the 02 latches?
The upper rad support is different, because of the shape of the headlights, and the same with the buckets, they are different to. That is all that needs to be swaped....and find a way to wire up the headlights.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:56 AM   #78
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+1 more for a highligted picture and or drawing
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:33 PM   #79
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Has anyone made a more detailed tread yet with parts need without having to shift through every post to get answers ?

Would be much appreciated to get the info listed.

hood/scoop
fenders
fender liners
front Bumper
front bumper beam
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Radiator core support (buy it new too) need to be tack welded in
Upper radiator support beam
Headlight Brackets

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Old 06-12-2007, 05:32 PM   #80
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Measuremeants Where to WELD from Model to Model Year on the Radiator.
Chargespeeds kit the headlight kit - its for the JDM goodies from what im told for Hids and stuff.


Theres a very good chance i will get the collision center to do the conversion for me with insurance paying the bill after the guy gets around to working on my wrx. I damaged most of my front end sat when i slid through some gravel and spun into the guardrail.




Ok ill stop bumping this thread now.



Do i feel guilty of doing this off the insurance check NO they ripped me and my family in payments like a few other companys do every month that we have switched through over the years.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:45 AM   #81
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As far as I know I'm the only one to ever actually complete this. I posted it in the gallery all along the way. You have to seam/spot weld it, there is no way around that. It's a direct swap of OEM Subaru parts, nothing custom is required other than a couple holes drilled in order to prevent you from having to swap more than you need to(for the AC tanks on the side of the radiator supports).



You need the front upper tie bar and radiator supports. You also need the front bumper beem from an 02/03 unless you are going to use a FMIC(I used a FMIC instead).



And completed:


I didn't do the welding(bud's shop did); but it's easy, just some spots that are already marked by Subaru.

That looks SOOO sick man. Good job.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:15 PM   #82
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Has anyone made a more detailed tread yet with parts need without having to shift through every post to get answers ?

Would be much appreciated to get the info listed.

hood/scoop
fenders
fender liners
front Bumper
front bumper beam
headlights
Radiator core support (buy it new too) need to be tack welded in
Upper radiator support beam
Headlight Brackets

+1...anyone?
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:51 AM   #83
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That's so funny that some of you want the bugeye look! I have an 02 Aussie bugeye STi that I just sold off all the front end parts so I could make it an 04-05 model STi.

Some detailed pics would be great!

So, are there 4 pieces that need to be replaced..the L&R top (side) supports and the L&R headlight buckets? Can the middle radiator support that the radiator bolts to be kept?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 08-04-2007, 10:20 PM   #84
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or you could be like me and take your bugeye wrx and do a complete 07 STi transplant into it...

but really, starting with an STi and swapping the panels up front would have been muuuuuch easier (albeit less interesting).
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:52 PM   #85
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I've got a 97OBS and was hoping there was somewhere to upgrade my headlamp shape. I think the round bugeye shape is cool, but I like the newer design even better. If I did attempt to replace, would I have to replace the hood and everything as well? Thanks, sorry if its a newbish question.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:37 PM   #86
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Tell you what wild west, why imitate when you can just swap all together. I have a 2003 WRX that I'll swap for your 04 STI...you keep the payments though. :-)

goodluck! I've always like the 04-05 front clip more...guess is just perspective.
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:32 AM   #87
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2 years when i sell my wrx if i dont buy into NEW vs OLD 'mazda hatch' looking STi.

I just wanted to let you all know i will do a complete swap on a 06 wagon might not even have to touch the engine if i get lucky.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:03 PM   #88
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bringing this thread back from the dead. i am doing it now. you all make it sound so complicated. let me explain.

for those of you who dont know. THIS IS A RADIATOR SUPPORT (or rad core support as you are refferring to).







THIS IS THE KEY PART TO THIS SWAP. now keep in mind that i am swapping from an 03 (bugeye) to an 04 (blobeye). my front end is completely dissassembled. to answer a few questions that remain unanswered in this thread:

no you do not have to swap fender lining, side skirts, fender supports, bumper beam, radiator, or a/c condensor.

the main reason that some may do this is because they do not like the look of the bugeye. therefore you must accomodate the new 04+ style headlights. to do this you must find an 04+

RADIATOR SUPPORT
hood
fenders
headlights
bumper of your choice 04-05 wrx or sti.

you cannot use fenders or bumper from a wagon!

once your car is stripped of all of the main parts, (headlights, hood, bumper, fenders, grille)

your car should look like this:











ofcourse yours wont be as beautiful as mine but thats okay we can work on yours later.

only kidding


now from here you must do what one of the other members was explaining earlier..

from the dealership there are simply bolts holding on the top of the rad support. once these are removed you must drill out the spot/tack welds all along the rad support.



once these are drilled out you must discharge the ac condensor, drain your radiator, and disconnect your horns etc.


once all of this is removed your car is ready for the swap.


this should clear up a lot of questions. as far as what part numbers you need? i cannot help you. your best bet is to find someone who is willing to trade or someone who is parting out whichever model you are looking for 03/04.

i will be creating a detailed thread within the next couple weeks to finally explain how this process is completed.
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:42 PM   #89
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^ so if I'm going from an 02 wagon to an 04 sti, would all the same parts list apply?
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Old 12-11-2010, 04:50 PM   #90
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Yes you should need the same parts. I am actually thinking of doing this from a 96 gc font to a newer 07 front end.
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Old 12-15-2010, 08:35 AM   #91
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^ very nice. Can't wait for the detailed write up. It would really help me to plan everything out and see how the rad support is put on initially
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:21 PM   #92
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^^^ Above it says you need to drain your radiator and discharge your ac condenser.. And that you DO NOT have to do. you can leave all that attached and save yourself the money of recharging the ac and refilling the rad.


here's my pics from where he left off...

Drilling out the tack welds





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Old 12-18-2010, 03:30 PM   #93
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then it comes out like so..



and looks like



Then get this ready

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Old 12-18-2010, 03:37 PM   #94
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Grind down any areas that are not flat that the core support will be coming in contact with.

mock it up to check the fitment..





look over it all and measure each side to make sure there close.. it should line up close to your previous core support.

and when it all looks right .. spot it back in..

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Old 12-18-2010, 03:46 PM   #95
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and then I cleaned my core up and prepped and painted it satin black.. and it looks like this





Then I waited a day. which was yesterday for some other stuff to come in



then bolt em up

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Old 12-18-2010, 03:49 PM   #96
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hood fell right into the latch without needing any adjusting and this is the headlight and fender fit.



the bumper is all messed up so the gap does'nt look good between the hood and bumper but when i get the new one it'll be right on..
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:51 PM   #97
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In this picture the drivers side of the bumper is zip tied up for a good fit. and the other side is still hanging making the gap look bad.



all should be done this week and then it'll be time to get it painted..
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Old 12-19-2010, 11:16 AM   #98
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nice! I like that front end.
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:33 PM   #99
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thanks, its coming along.. once i get the new bumper and pass headlight. i'll finish the repair on my sti scoop and swap that over. and within the next couple of weeks i should be getting the paint stripped down and painting it flat white until spring or summer.
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Old 12-20-2010, 12:42 PM   #100
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wow, great work man
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