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Old 11-01-2006, 06:32 PM   #1
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My tubro blew up this week.... my car is 100% stock 26K and I have done the approiate maintiance (oil changes) but have done the most recent one my self.

The dealer FAIRWAY in Greenville, SC won't even look at the car untill I give them recipts. Car threw codes P0011, P0021, P0457... There is a massive amount of oil in the exhaust and i think turbo bearing is frozen.

I really really need my car fix so if anyone can do anything I will reward them!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-01-2006, 06:37 PM   #2
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Ummmm..... There has to be more to this story....
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Old 11-01-2006, 06:56 PM   #3
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i'm assuming they want receipts for maintenance? find another dealer. especially if it is the turbo, as there is no turbo maintenance item specifically.

but, my bet is with the poster above me, there has to be more to the story. turbo's don't go out at 26k for no obvious reason. my guess is that it might have something to do with this...
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I have done the approiate maintiance (oil changes) but have done the most recent one my self.
was this the first oil change you did? you wouldn't have been the first person that emptied out the transmission, and put 5 quarts into your already full oil pan. that would cause lots of oil the exhaust...

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Old 11-01-2006, 07:32 PM   #4
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Last Oil change was in July 06 with roughly 22K Miles...

Car was on highway and when pulling away from tool booth under boost I heard a Squeel.. tought at first it was something rubbing on wheel.

I drove for another few miles and heard it again... Looked down, CEL followed by horrible noise and TONS of white smoke was going about 85 in heavy traffic. Went like .5 Miles to next safe exit and pulled off to have car towed.

Waited from 2:30 untill 7 when tow truck finall whoed up. Subaru sent wrecked to 185 not I85 where I was... dealer closed on Friday night, Saturday and Sunday... finally scanned ECU on Tuesday and told me they cannot proceed until I provied recipts of an oils change. Dealer claiming oil starved turbo failed b/c of no oil change.

Car had been blowing threw some oil, used maybe 1 qt per 1000 miles.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:35 PM   #5
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was this the first oil change you did? you wouldn't have been the first person that emptied out the transmission, and put 5 quarts into your already full oil pan. that would cause lots of oil the exhaust...

First oil change was at 3K, dealer change at 7K 10K 13K, did 16K and 22K my self. I am a Mechinical Engineer and have been around cars my life. It was def Engine Oil.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:57 PM   #6
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dealers are in their right to ask for proof the car has been serviced regularly before performing warranty work.

Hopefully you can provide them something, otherwise they or any other dealership are not obligated to help you.
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Old 11-01-2006, 11:54 PM   #7
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Also it seems odd that he could manage to go 4,000 miles with 9 quarts of oil in the motor. I'm guessing that's not what happened. After 4000 miles without any transmission fuild I think he would notice.

You say your car had been going through 1 quart every 1000 miles? That's a lot. When did this start? Did you take it to the dealer after noticing this? If no, then why the hell not?
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:10 AM   #8
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check it out bro your having the same problem i had serious except for me my motor blew. took my car in on monday to the dealership and they stated that the car had no oil at 29,000 miles. so they said i needed receipts of all the oil changes done to the car. guess what im screwed cause i did my own oil change at 26,000 miles. i was like its still under warranty so fix it. guess what they said HELL NO. i was ok f*** y**. so what i did was call soa and let them know my problem with this stupid subaru dealer called bob baker subaru which is located in carlsbad ca. well what ended up happening, soa called me back and said that they will only cover 50% of all the damages done to the car because i had no proff of the oil changes i had done to the car. so the cost to fix my repairs where about 4,420 but since they said theyll cut the repairs in half i was left to pay them only 2400. so my best advice i can give u is CALL SOA and start your claim. SEE what they can do for you. Dont let the dealership bull**** U. ok. again Call soa and see what they can do for u. Its your best bet. And again GOOD LUCK.
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:38 AM   #9
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I asked the dealer about oil usage, they said it was normal for the STi to consume some oil. I just kept adding. I did a lot of around town driving and figured it was blow through b/c the car was under boost a lot.

I think my car sucks anyways. It has been in and out of the dealer about 7 times already for throwing diffrent CEL's.



The dealer in SC is a Prick. Noone ever go to FAIRWAY in Greenville, SC.
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:45 AM   #10
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Just show the dealer the receipts you saved when you purchased your oil and oil filters.
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:19 AM   #11
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If its the same dealership that you took it to for you oil changes they should have records of all of your oil changes. even if you changed your own oil the last time they should give you the benifit of the doubt.

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Old 11-02-2006, 10:28 AM   #12
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When was the last time you had to add oil (mileage??) - are they saying it was run dry? Do you have receipts for oil/filter purchased for the last change you did yourself?
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:37 AM   #13
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I added oil about 100 miles before it happened. I check with gas fills. Dealer even mentioned that there was fresh oil in intake tube as well as small spilled around covers. It was not running dry as far as I know, altought IDK what if any blockages there were in turbo's oil feed line.

I have recipts for oil changes at 5, 7, 10, and 13, missing of course the last two 17 & 22.

I have a service record that I keep by hand with the car... just a book let of when car threw codes, maintiance, accidents, things like that... but I am not sure that counts as "proof" of anything.
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:59 AM   #14
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but, my bet is with the poster above me, there has to be more to the story. turbo's don't go out at 26k for no obvious reason.
Your right...some some turbo's don't wait until 26k and blow with only 189 miles on a brand new 06, as mine did. Just because a situation is odd, does not mean it is not true/did not happen. Just because one person has never had a problem, does not mean that the next guy has not had twenty. I've had two 06 WRX in th past 10 months and have had a bunch of problems with both of them, and am currently having the a very simliar engine/turbo problem with only 3,000 miles on the second car, with the car broken-in following the manual and driving normal, no racing or beating on the car. Sometimes, crap just happens...
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:07 PM   #15
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Your right...some some turbo's don't wait until 26k and blow with only 189 miles on a brand new 06, as mine did. Just because a situation is odd, does not mean it is not true/did not happen. Just because one person has never had a problem, does not mean that the next guy has not had twenty. I've had two 06 WRX in th past 10 months and have had a bunch of problems with both of them, and am currently having the a very simliar engine/turbo problem with only 3,000 miles on the second car, with the car broken-in following the manual and driving normal, no racing or beating on the car. Sometimes, crap just happens...

You are absolutly right. any man made product can never be guarantied not to fail. but for a person to say they have never raced or beaten on a wrx, come on man we dont buy these kinda cars to drive em like a grandma.
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:07 PM   #16
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Also, probally unrelated but my car has been in and out of shop 10 times for throwing codes.... latest 2 were during turbo failure.

P0457
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You are absolutly right. any man made product can never be guarantied not to fail. but for a person to say they have never raced or beaten on a wrx, come on man we dont buy these kinda cars to drive em like a grandma.
quoted for truth.

More people need to realize that.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:28 PM   #18
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Racing refers to competitive sports whose goal is speed, such as human runner racing and horse racing and auto racing.

Techinically I have never RACED. I have driven threw canyon roads with smile on face. The car is marketed to a certian group and as such should perform to thoes standards.

It is just the same as if I sold carbon fiber race frames for a road bike that fell apart in competition and they said, well... it is just for looks.

What type of reputation would i have???
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Believe me, I want to drive this thing hard. I just have not had the chance to yet, as things keep having problems before the car is even broken-in. No fun beating on a car that is already having engine trouble - don't want to do any more damage than there already is/create more problems.
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Old 11-02-2006, 02:34 PM   #20
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Also, probally unrelated but my car has been in and out of shop 10 times for throwing codes.... latest 2 were during turbo failure.

P0457
P0457
P0457
P2123
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P0457
P0011
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This doesn't make any sense... you've been in the shop 5 times for your fuel cap? Something's not adding up here. Any normal person would have thrown that piece of **** car right back in the dealer's face by now. You're not mentioning something.

Are you aware of something called the "lemon law"?
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Old 11-02-2006, 02:51 PM   #21
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okay u never "raced" your car... but can you say u have never abused it?

ive seen peoples uppipe fail and the honeycomb stuff got into the turbo and siezed the turbo.. but you dont have a cat on your uppipe... so there goes that thought.

they should just warranty you a new turbo... its not like their not going to get paid for it...
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:25 PM   #22
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This doesn't make any sense... you've been in the shop 5 times for your fuel cap? Something's not adding up here. Any normal person would have thrown that piece of **** car right back in the dealer's face by now. You're not mentioning something.

Are you aware of something called the "lemon law"?

Started looking into that however NYS lemon law says it must be a serious defect. IDK that a leak in the evaporator system would be a serious defect. I am starting the paper work now tho to file a lemon law claim. My car must have been built on a monday...
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Being built on a monday would only affect cars made in the usa. lol
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Old 11-02-2006, 04:08 PM   #24
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I asked the dealer about oil usage, they said it was normal for the STi to consume some oil. I just kept adding. I did a lot of around town driving and figured it was blow through b/c the car was under boost a lot.

I think my car sucks anyways. It has been in and out of the dealer about 7 times already for throwing diffrent CEL's.



The dealer in SC is a Prick. Noone ever go to FAIRWAY in Greenville, SC.
I'm pretty sure that 1 quart of oil per 1k miles is considered excessive by Subaru. Maybe this was a sign of your turbo being on the way out? Perhaps the bearing was leaking a lot of oil to begin with, then one day it started leaking so much oil that it no longer had enough cooling and lubrication? Did the dealer document your complaints about oil consumption?
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I wonder if an oil analysis can help in these situations. If you claim to have changed the oil 4000 miles before failure, with some topping up since then, an OA should show oil that is consistent with that "age". Not sure though.
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