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Old 11-02-2006, 10:31 AM   #1
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:33 AM   #2
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i would go to canada if it wasnt so canadian
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:34 AM   #3
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No suprise here

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Old 11-02-2006, 10:35 AM   #4
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So i need to go to Canada or Germany?
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:36 AM   #5
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Why do you hate America?
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:55 AM   #6
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It's very hard to wire-tap an Igloo.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:11 AM   #7
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If you aren't discussing criminal activity over the phone, then what is there to worry about?
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:12 AM   #8
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If you aren't discussing criminal activity over the phone, then what is there to worry about?
+1. We can trust our government to always do the right thing for the right motives.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:13 AM   #9
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^ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:15 AM   #10
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but don't you feel safe?
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:16 AM   #11
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I can't wait for the NSA to start reviewing OT. When King George anoints himself, you f***ers will never see me again
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:16 AM   #12
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Are you ****ing kidding me?
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:16 AM   #13
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I wouldn't go that far, but I don't see what the big deal about surveillance is to those who aren't committing crimes.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:19 AM   #14
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I wouldn't go that far, but I don't see what the big deal about surveillance is to those who aren't committing crimes.
It's when "crime" starts being redefined to include any sort of subversion--which might include anything from adverse political activism to plain criticism. The current admin is already gutting Habeus Corpus and using "act of terror" incredibly losely. What's next? Also, ever heard of Watergate? The DNC wasn't committing a crime. Are you suggesting that it should have been okay for Nixon to ransack their HQ?
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:19 AM   #15
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I wouldn't go that far, but I don't see what the big deal about surveillance is to those who aren't committing crimes.
While I didn't see a big deal with the Bill of Rights.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:21 AM   #16
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I wouldn't go that far, but I don't see what the big deal about surveillance is to those who aren't committing crimes.
If your wife or girlfriend secretly checked your emails and tapped your phone to see if you where cheating would you be pissed at her?
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:23 AM   #17
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Im sure this is something we call sarcasm guys.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:24 AM   #18
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Guys, lets compare apples to apples here. We have personal calls compared to watergate and on the way other end of the spectrum we have government tapping compared to gf snooping.

Just assume that all phone calls are being listened to and you don't have to worry.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:27 AM   #19
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I wonder if the NSA likes those picture msgs of poop I send to my friends.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:28 AM   #20
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I wonder if the NSA likes those picture msgs of poop I send to my friends.
I sent a bunch of those myself, until I found out my plan charged per MMS message sent.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:33 AM   #21
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Guys, lets compare apples to apples here. We have personal calls compared to watergate and on the way other end of the spectrum we have government tapping compared to gf snooping.

Just assume that all phone calls are being listened to and you don't have to worry.

The thing is we shouldn't have to assume they are listening. The land of the free and all that jazz...
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:40 AM   #22
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The thing is we shouldn't have to assume they are listening. The land of the free and all that jazz...
Well, it is more like keyword matching, really. Say enough keywords in a conversation and your conversation is red flagged for further review.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:41 AM   #23
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:44 AM   #24
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:44 AM   #25
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