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Old 11-11-2001, 06:40 PM   #1
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Default has anyone installed UD pulley on 4EAT?

I bought a UD pulley awhile ago and finally tried to install it on my car today and we were unsuccessful. has anyone installed one on a 4eat RS and made it work?
on the instructions, it said you had to "hold the flywheel with the proper tool" in order to unscrew the bolt that held the oem ud pulley. what tool are they talking about?
i am very much a newbie on these things and would like to know how to install the pulley myself. so if anyone has had a succesful experience with this, please share your experience.
i actually had a friend who knows enough about other cars to help me take off the belts and set it up so we were able to get to the point of just being able to unscrew the bolt, but since the oem pulley kept moving and we didn't know how to keep it from moving, I figured it's better to just stop there and make sure to do it right later on.
any help would be awesome. thanks in advance!
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Old 11-11-2001, 08:22 PM   #2
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Have somebody sit in the car, put it in fifth (don't forget to let off the clutch!) and hold the brakes on. That did the trick for us! Good luck!
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Old 11-11-2001, 08:27 PM   #3
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I did not know the 4eat auto had a clutch pedal! v

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Old 11-11-2001, 08:30 PM   #4
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Silverscooby27: Seriously, try reading the post completly before you reply. Geez.

I need help with this too, the best thing I've heard so far is get a 3' breaker bar, attatch it to the crank bold and lay it on the battery. Then get in the car and twitch the starter for 1/10 second and that should torque it loose.

Only problem with this idea is that it scares me.

If anyone knows a better way, please help.

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Old 11-11-2001, 08:52 PM   #5
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now now, no need to be nasty, just an honest mistake.
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Old 11-11-2001, 09:27 PM   #6
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Have you tried putting the 4EAT in Drive to get it to hold the crank from turning, and have a friend press on the brake so the car doesn't move?
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Old 11-11-2001, 09:43 PM   #7
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Default Yep ive done it,,,,,,,,

1st ,Dont stick anything in the tranny unless you know what your doin.2nd, dont put the breaker bar anywhere near the battery.I used the ole starter motor method,get evrything ready so your ready to loosen the crank bolt.Pull the plug wires from the coil pack so it wont start.Learn wich way the moter turns from the front, by cranken the engine a turn or two.Place your impact socket on the Crank bolt and attach a braker bar,or put a length of pipe over your rachet to make a breaker bar.The moter spins clockwise from the front(i think)so put the breaker bar attached to the bolt on the right side of the block underneath the car.Wedge it firmly on the concrete or asphalt so there is no play ,with enough pipe on it that it wont spin under.In other words wedge it so when ya crank it, the bar would try to dig it itself in to the concrete.If ya really wanta be careful you could put a smalll piece of plywood up against the radiator where the fans used to be .
Tap the starter once (only tap).All done.
Now ya gotta figure out how to tighten it up .Remember you only need 75 to 85s pound of torque on the crank bolt when ya tighten it down.
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Old 11-11-2001, 10:23 PM   #8
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I was told 130 foot lbs to torque it down - better double check that!
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Old 11-11-2001, 10:31 PM   #9
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Larry,,I hear what your sayin,but awhlie back this was discussed,somebody said it was a typo on the instructions from U/O (130).Somebody,mita been shiv, and others agreed ya dont need that much.Mines at 85 its still on and tite 10,000 miles latter.
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Old 11-11-2001, 11:31 PM   #10
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Get a chain wrench(sp?) and strap it around the crank pully. Have one person hold onto that, while the other uses the breaker bar and loosens the bolt. I've done this 5 times and it's not a problem.
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Old 11-12-2001, 03:01 AM   #11
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get the bar in place ....have two people holding the handle ....turn the car over for like second ...pulley comes right off! At least mine did!
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What I did, with the help of t.rod is wrap a screwdriver in a cloth....turn the pulley and keep an eye on the flywheel.....it is behind the tranny just about under the firewall.....there is a disc that turns.....at opposite ends of the disc there are notches.....while t.rod wedged the driver in I torqued the pulley and click it came off. the belts were the only problem after that.....yes it was an AUTO.

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we did the shifter to drive and brakes thing and it was not working. The method jagcars26 mentioned sounds scary, well at least for me to be doing. hehe.. but it sound doable. what plugs and what coil pack are you talking about?

now the chain wrench idea that legacyGTR has mentioned sound easy,...but what's a chain wrench?

thanks for all the info though.. very much appreciated!

one more thing... when facing the motor, infront of the car..
is it turn to the left to loosen the bolt or turn to the right to loosen?? I ask this because Subaru seems to not follow the "lefty-loosey, righty-tighty" rule... just check the door lock.
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Old 11-12-2001, 03:04 PM   #14
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why do they call an Auto a 4EAT, does the AT stand for automatic tranny. I am sure more poeple are wondering than just me. Thanks
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Old 11-12-2001, 03:26 PM   #15
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i think the "E" stand for electronic or something...4 speed electronically-assisted Automatic transmission??
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Old 11-12-2001, 05:23 PM   #16
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The coil pack is that black boxy thing sitten top of your motor with 4 large wires goin into (2each side) these are the plug wires.Pulle n them here is easier then pullen them at the plugs.Its sounds scary i know but it really is easier(not as scary) then it sounds.
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Old 11-13-2001, 02:59 AM   #17
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If I loosen the crankshaft pulley bolt using the "disable the engine from running" method, how do I retighten the bolt?
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Old 11-13-2001, 12:44 PM   #18
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I also checked the local stores for the chain strap wrench but nobody carries it. Any help here? I 'll be doing the install this coming Saturday.
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Old 11-13-2001, 05:47 PM   #19
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Default To retighten the bolt,,,,,,,,,,

I made a strapwrench out of an old leather belt,,it only broke once when i was tightening it upDONT use the chain type to tighten it up,youl tear up your new pulley .Home Depot carries strap wrenches,,there not too much .Try plumbing section.
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It was hard to find a chain wrench for me to, got one at a local hardware store. It's true you can tear up the pully. There were some little nicks in it the first time I used it. But if you put the chain on correctly it won't knick up the pully. A strap wrench (like one for an oil filter) but (whil I havent tried this) I'm not sure if there is enought smooth area for the band to go around. ie if there's enough contact surface area that the pully won't turn inside the wrench. I'd take a picture of the chain wrench but the picts. my digital camera takes are too big. Mine was made by Vise-grip(sp?) and so it has a handle that's basicly the same. And a mabe 1-1.5 foot chain attached to one end. Then you hook the other end (at whatever length you want) and tighten the handle(just like a vise grip).
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Thanx for the help guys If I can't find the tool, I'll just do the starter method. But how do u tighten the bolt afterwards?
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With the above mentioned strap wrench,put it over the new pulley hold it tite.Dont marr the pully if you can help it.Have another person with the correct size wrench or socket fr the bolt tighten it down.Check with a torque wrench. 90lbs should do it.
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I'm going to try the starter method on Saturday. I'll let everyone know what happens.

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Old 11-15-2001, 10:57 AM   #24
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monovich, let me know for sure! i really want to know where to wedge the wrench at and how it went for you. details.....

jagcars26
my concern is when you are facing the engine..do you wedge the wrench under the battery side(driver side) or the left side(passenger side)??
now if that goes well.. how the ehck to you retighten the bolt?? will the pulley turn with it also?

wow... since when did i ever become a car modifier??
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I believe the engine turns clockwise from the front,after you get the plug wires off,bump the starter to see which way it spins .If i rember correctly i placed the bar under th car on the right side so when the engine spins it trys to push the bar into the ground and hence loosen s the bolt.Removal of the fans behind the radiator gives you more room to work also.See my above post to retighten.
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