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Old 11-12-2001, 03:43 AM   #1
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Post FOR THOSE of you who want an easy time getting off oil filters

If you want to get your oil filter off easily YOU want this tool...
Go to a local napa store and tell them you want part number
775-9018 or

http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...5&prmenbr=5806

this is a great tool....especially if you are changing your oil filter for the first time... this tool is used with a ratchet... the tool has claws that grip on to your oil filter... while turning the ratchet, the claw gets tighter and the oil filter starts to move

The price is only like 6 bucks
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Old 11-12-2001, 09:17 AM   #2
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Old 11-12-2001, 03:22 PM   #3
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Other than the initial oil change, I don't think I've had to use a tool to get the filter off, just used my hand. Put some oil on the seal before installing the new filter and don't crank on the thing after getting it snug, and it'll come off fairly easily the next time.

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Old 11-13-2001, 01:22 PM   #4
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SteveS,

You are NOT tightening the filter enough if you can remove it by hand. You should tighten it 3/4 to 1 full turn after the filter contacts the base. After all, it's better for it to be too tight than too loose. The LAST thing you want is for that filter to come off by itself. Unless you're one heck of a strong fellow, and you want to wait for the engine to be cool (which is not the best way to drain the oil) use a filter wrench!
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Old 11-13-2001, 06:02 PM   #5
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Thanks for the concern, Alan, but I have yet to have a problem and I've been doing this for quite a few years. Usually I use the wrench because, like you pointed out, the filter is warm/hot. But I stand by what I said, you want the filter tight enough not to leak or come loose, and that's it. Any tighter is useless. Hand tight is tight enough.

Also, make sure to use some oil to lubricate the ring seal. Wipe off the filter mount on the bottom of the engine. And fill the new filter up with oil before installing.

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Old 11-13-2001, 06:27 PM   #6
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The 2002 Owner's Manuals suggests:
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6. Remove the oil filter with an oil filter wrench.
7. Before installing a new oil filter, apply a thin coat of engine oil to the seal.
8. Clean the rubber seal seating area of the lower crank case and install the oil filter by hand turning. Be careful not to twist or damage the seal.
9. Tighten it approximately two-thirds of a turn after the seal makes contact with the lower crank case.
I'm confident that the instructions for older Imprezas are very similar.
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Old 11-13-2001, 09:13 PM   #7
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I've had one for quite a while. Worth it's weight in gold:
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Old 11-14-2001, 12:57 AM   #8
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Slip it over the filter and twist. I don't remember how the hell I figured that out but I've been using it for years.
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Old 11-15-2001, 05:03 PM   #9
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Thanks Peaty! i just changed my oil for the first time. I bought the filter wrench you suggested and it worked great. They are put on tight from the factory!
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Old 11-16-2001, 07:49 AM   #10
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I don't know why the factory installed filters are such a b!tch to get loose. I remember struggling with mine even with a filter wrench. I suspect it's because they don't lube the ring seal and they have some Sumo wrestler installing the filters.

When replacing my head gaskets, we were surprised at how "loose" the head bolts were. I suspect that Subaru was doing some cross training and the head bolt torquer was installing filters and the filter guy was installing the head bolts!

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Old 12-15-2001, 02:13 AM   #11
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Quote:
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SteveS,

You are NOT tightening the filter enough if you can remove it by hand. You should tighten it 3/4 to 1 full turn after the filter contacts the base. After all, it's better for it to be too tight than too loose.
Having it too tight is going to cause you almost as many problems as having it too loose. If its too loose chances are its not going to just fall off there is a good deal of pressure that will keep it in place so it will only leak. And the same thing happens if it is too tight, you will break the gasket or overexpand it and it will leak like a bitch. Also if too tight you can strip the threads either when putting it on or taking it off later that would be really bad!

Just hand tighten it, tighten it like you would turn down the volume on your stereo. Once it stops being easy to tighten stop trying. Once the knob on your stereo stops you dont keep trying to twist it further do you? Same principle, dont use a lot of force and when it stops your are done.
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Old 12-28-2001, 04:45 AM   #12
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I don't know about the 'volume control' analogy, but I agree with SteveS-hand tight is tight enough. As long as you can get close to the recommended amount of rotation after the gasket contacts the filter base you'll be fine.

There seems to be an American attitude that 'more is better'--if snug is good, as tight as possible is better! Even when put on by hand, filters sometimes require a filter wrench to remove them. If they are installed with 100 ft-lbs of force they are almost impossible to remove.

I've always lubricated the gasket with oil and tightened them by hand. I've put maybe 750,000 miles on various vehicles without a problem.
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Old 01-02-2002, 06:02 PM   #13
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When I had my mustang I went to Saleen and had them do some eng work. Their tech quoted this rule and since I have always used it. "One hand on and two hands off" Works just fine on 3 different cars so far.
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Old 09-19-2002, 02:47 AM   #14
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And fill the new filter up with oil before installing.
Why? Doesn't that make it harder to screw on and you risk spilling everywhere if you don't screw it on correctly?
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Old 09-19-2002, 08:47 AM   #15
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Why? Doesn't that make it harder to screw on and you risk spilling everywhere if you don't screw it on correctly?
It is supposed to prevent start up wear on your engine. If you have warmed up the car, there should be some oil on the parts anyway. I have never seen data to show that putting oil in the filter will make your car last xxx,xxx thousand miles longer.

My Maxima, 300ZX and Camry filters are oriented to make this approach impossible anyway. The 300ZX has like new performance, actually better since there are some mods, and has 300,000 on the original internal engine parts. If you pull up next to it in a 240hp van at a light, it is definitely still a sleeper.

I guess with the WRX we have the opportunity to do this. But will it mean that we will have like-new factory compression at 400,000 miles? Who knows?

You can avoid making a mess by not filling it all the way up, so you should at least get xx,xxx miles more.
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Old 09-19-2002, 05:42 PM   #16
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During pre-fill the filter media will absord ~4oz of oil until saturated then you will begin to see a level in the bottom of the filter. Stop pre-filling at this point if the angle of the filter during install will spill oil.
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During pre-fill the filter media will absord ~4oz of oil until saturated then you will begin to see a level in the bottom of the filter. Stop pre-filling at this point if the angle of the filter during install will spill oil.
On the ZX the angle = a total dump of oil. Always a mess to remove too. However, you can remove it from the topside. The WRX is the first car I have had where it is relatively easy to install a nearly full pre-loaded filter.
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