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Old 11-07-2006, 10:30 PM   #1
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Default SoCal mountains snow chain or cable chain

Which is better for our local mountains? how often do find yourself using them?

Snow Chain


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Cable Chain
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:07 PM   #2
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Cable, and once on a while....
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:33 AM   #3
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Chains actually perform better, but the cables are easier to deal with. I don't use either one.
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:37 AM   #4
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I've bought the Vulcan's last year but have yet to use them.
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:42 AM   #5
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+1 for cables. also remember, you only need a set for the front wheels as stated in the owners manual.

I've yet to use chains on my wrx or my Forester, and I've been up in some serious (So. Cal-serious) conditions. Just make sure you have the right tire and you shouldn't need chains.
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:29 PM   #6
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If you have decent all-season tires, you won't need to put chains on your Subaru. You will need to have a set in the car for the CHP to look at though.

-Charlie
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:19 AM   #7
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Chains? Cables? Ewwww!!!
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:59 AM   #8
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+1 for snow or all-season tires. I have ziex and they were great in snow, no chains needed. I've seen people up at bear with stockers, they work too.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:33 AM   #9
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I have got stuck in the snow with RE070. That was a bad day.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:36 AM   #10
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Snow tires FTW!

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Old 11-09-2006, 11:58 AM   #11
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As a long time resident of Mammoth Lakes, I can vouch that cables suck. First off, they break more frequently. And more importantly, the CHPs will laugh at you and send you back down the grade to get chains. Although the laws to explicitly state that cables do not meet the requirements, if there are R3 conditions, you will be turned around.

http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/chcontrl.htm

Also, just because a tire says M+S doesnt mean it will do **** for you in the snow. Only true dedicated snow tires are really proven effective.

And of course, if you only plan to go to the snow once, its not worth it to buy new snow tires. =)

Oh, last thing, silly as it sounds, practice putting the chains on at home.
Ive watched countless people learn to put chains on in freezing temps and high winds and drifting snow. No fun.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:06 PM   #12
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Andy's right, I spent most of my high school years driving to Tahoe every weekend, and cable chains are a joke.

But, the truth of the matter is that, if chains are required, even on a 4WD vehicle, you probably don't want to be driving anyway.

That being said, it's rare in the SoCal mountains when there's any snow on the road.

I say AWD, some good all-seasons, and some common sense will do just fine.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:34 PM   #13
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Andy's right, I spent most of my high school years driving to Tahoe every weekend, and cable chains are a joke.

That being said, it's rare in the SoCal mountains when there's any snow on the road.

I say AWD, some good all-seasons, and some common sense will do just fine.
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But, the truth of the matter is that, if chains are required, even on a 4WD vehicle, you probably don't want to be driving anyway.

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I used to go out in the worst possible conditions in my poor L.

There is a windy road in Mammoth called the Scenic Loop. It is the emergency exit out of town. During really bad storms, the plow will only do a one-lane pass. So I would drive it like a swedish rally stage, and if I went wide in the turn, the soft, 4' tall burms acted like bumpers to keep me on the road....i loved it. I learned a lot about how to drive on that road....
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:35 PM   #14
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Remember, I'm talking about LA drivers, not experienced snow drivers like you
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:41 PM   #15
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Remember, I'm talking about LA drivers, not experienced snow drivers like you
good point.

I have a story for that too.

My parents had an Isuzu Trooper, and we had spider web chains for all four tires. My friend and I bought a few good tow ropes, and we would go out in the blizzards and tow out all of the LA idiots. $60 a pop. And if it was a front wheel drive car..with chains on the rear wheels, we would charge another $40-100 to put the chains on the drive wheels. In some cases, we would tow the same person out twice in the same day.

Nothing feels better than making hundreds of dollars off LA stupidity.
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