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Old 02-26-2008, 03:32 AM   #226
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I dont know if its just my computer or what but a few of the "Purchase $___" links come up as webpage cannot be found.

(like the FP 16G, etc.)
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:58 PM   #227
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great thread!
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:02 AM   #228
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I dont know if its just my computer or what but a few of the "Purchase $___" links come up as webpage cannot be found.

(like the FP 16G, etc.)
Thanks for the heads up, I need to go back and fix some dead links. Stupid vendors always changing them on me!
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:20 PM   #229
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this was very helpful! thanks. I have a guy offering his used vf39 off his 06 sti, but I've also heard good things about the big 16g and I see some of those cheap on ebay. They seem comparable though. Anyone have a reason to go one way or the other besides price?
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:25 PM   #230
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On my 06' WRX, when I finally upgrade the turbo... i'm looking to achieve around 400whp. What do you guys think of a td06-18g for the 2.5L?? Or do you think another turbo would be a better match. I'd like to get one with as fast of a spool but with a nice punch.

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Old 03-01-2008, 08:53 PM   #231
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this was very helpful! thanks. I have a guy offering his used vf39 off his 06 sti, but I've also heard good things about the big 16g and I see some of those cheap on ebay. They seem comparable though. Anyone have a reason to go one way or the other besides price?
Glad it helped VF39 is a great choice, and so is the 16g. You're mostly going to be making your decision based on brand preference and what you're comfortable putting in your car. The turbos will be similar but you'll see some slightly different characteristics between the two.
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:55 PM   #232
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On my 06' WRX, when I finally upgrade the turbo... i'm looking to achieve around 400whp. What do you guys think of a td06-18g for the 2.5L?? Or do you think another turbo would be a better match. I'd like to get one with as fast of a spool but with a nice punch.

Thanks
You'd likely be looking at a 20g or a 49 lb/min turbo for those power levels. Probably wouldn't see 400whp on a 20g without a race gas tune. I would ask your tuner what they prefer for safety and street use.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:10 AM   #233
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Thanks; read up on your suggestion and it does look like a better match, so now i'm looking at getting the Deadbolt 20G.

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Old 03-05-2008, 12:06 AM   #234
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Ok so I cant decide now between a blouch, deadbolt or fp turbo (most likely going 20g but maybe 18g not sure what size for sure) I was wondering if anyone can tell me which is a better company, which turbos are better hp wise and realiability wise??? Who overall has the better turbo here...thanks guys

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I have a similiar setup as you and I went with the DB 18g and got it ported and polished along with a protune and it makes great power considering its quick spool.
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:51 PM   #235
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Some twinscroll (twin spool) turbos...

Power Enterprise 1825F
(340-380whp, Modification Required)
From what ever limited info I've read the PE1825F is a modified IHI vf37 twinscroll turbo converted to a ball bearing turbo with a bigger 56 trim compressor wheel (52.5mm inducer/70mm exducer). The turbine wheel and turbine housing remain the same AFAIK.

Zero/Sports A/R 25
(340-380whp, Modification Required)
The Zero/Sports A/R 25 was supposedly a PE1825F with even further mods made but I'm not sure exactly what else was done. Here are some specs I found:
compressor: inner 52.5 / outer 70
turbine: outer 53.0 / exhaust 48.0
blade 11

HKS GT2835
(360-410whp, Modification Required)
The HKS GT2835 twin-scroll bolt-on is a 56 trim compressor wheel, although slightly bigger at 53.1mm inducer/71.1mm exducer. It is also a ball-bearing design, but has a bigger turbine wheel and housing than the PE1825. You can expect to pay around $2500 for this (turbo-only).

Blitz Twin Spool Kit
(Complete Bolt-on Kit, no details yet)
The Blitz Twin Spool Kit is sold only as a complete system which comes with the K3-450R Turbo, Uppipe, Downpipe (J Spec), External Wastegate, Dump Pipe, lines and gaskets. JDM Cat Back Required (Shorter Length). I haven't seen any numbers produced on this kit yet. You can expect to pay around $3500 for this typically.

I should mention all of these except the Blitz K3-450R are discontinued as of late but great turbos if you can find them.

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Old 03-06-2008, 07:22 PM   #236
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Thanks for putting that together for me.
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:19 AM   #237
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No problem.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:49 AM   #238
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Nice Write-up
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:44 PM   #239
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Are there any info about VF42? besides the description itself in the first page?

I assume VF42 is better than vf37?
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:37 PM   #240
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so would you reccomend the slowboys gt12??
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:47 PM   #241
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VF20 and VF21 are the twin turbos on the EJ20H.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:18 AM   #242
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Couple of edits, the VF12 was used on the Australian Spec Liberty RS.

The JDM cars were either the VF10 (Auto GT sedan, manual and auto legacy wagons)

The JDM Legacy RS sedan had a VF8. The VF8 and VF12 are similar in size and both bigger than the VF10.
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Old 04-19-2008, 03:09 PM   #243
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Mitsubishi TD04L-13T
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This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the USDM Subaru Impreza WRX. It can be found on all the current model years from 2002-2007.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2500-3000rpms.
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IHI VF10
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the USDM Legacy 4EAT MY91-94. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF11
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the USDM Legacy 5MT MY91-94. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF12
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy RS MY89-93. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF13
This is the standard equipment primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY93-95. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF14
This is the standard equipment secondary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY93-95. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF18
This is the standard equipment primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY96. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF19
This is the standard equipment secondary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY96. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF20
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY97. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF22
(490cfm at 18.0psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V3 Subaru Impreza WRX and optional on the JDM Subaru Impreza WRX STi 22b. Of all the IHI models, the VF22 has the largest potential for peak horsepower, and is capable of supporting the highest boost levels. It is capable of running up to 25 psi. The VF22 is a roller bearing turbo that utilizes the P20 exhaust housing.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 3200-3700rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.
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IHI VF23
(388cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM Subaru Impreza WRX STi 22b. The VF23 is a ball bearing turbocharger that utilizes the P20 exhaust housing like the VF22. This housing is mated with the smaller compressor housing of the VF24 for fast response and excellent low and mid-range performance. It does not have the same top end power of the VF22, but spools up slightly quicker.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.
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IHI VF24
(425cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V4 Subaru Impreza WRX STi. This turbo shares its compressor housing with the VF23, however, this housing is mated with a smaller (P18) exhaust side. The smaller characteristics of this turbo allow it to provide ample bottom end power and quick spool. This turbo is very popular for Imprezas with automatic transmissions and Group-N rally cars.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.
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IHI VF25
This is the standard equipment primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy B4. Utilizes a thrust-bearing design and a P12 exhaust housing. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF26
(400cfm at 18psi)
This is the standard equipment primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy B4. Utilizes a divided thrust-bearing design and a B14 exhaust housing. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF27
(420cfm at 18psi)
This is the standard equipment secondary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy. Utilizes a ball-bearing design and a P18 exhaust housing. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF28
(425cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V5 Subaru Impreza WRX STi.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.

IHI VF29
(425cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger on the JDM V6 Subaru Impreza WRX STi. The VF29 is nearly identical to the VF24, with the same compressor and exhaust housings. However, the compressor wheel in the VF29 has been changed slightly. The changes made to the compressor wheel in this model are generally viewed as improvements, and as such, this unit is typically chosen over the VF24. Has a different location for the pressure hose on the wastegate actuator.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2900-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.

IHI VF30
(460cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V7 Subaru Impreza WRX STi. The VF30 is a thrust-bearing turbo that utilizes the P18 exhaust housing of a VF24 and the compressor housing sized between a VF23 and a VF22.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 3000-3500rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.
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IHI VF31
Utilizes a P11 exhaust housing. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF32
This is the standard equipment primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy. It utilizes a ball-bearing design. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF33
This is the standard equipment primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy. It utilizes a P11 exhaust housing and a divided thrust-bearing design. No other information known at this time.

IHI VF34
(460cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V7 Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec-C. The VF34 is nearly identical to the VF30 but has improved spool up due to its roller bearing design. It also utilizes a P18 exhaust housing.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 3000-3500rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.
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IHI VF35
(425cfm, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM Subaru Impreza WRX. The VF35 is similar to the VF34. It utilizes the same compressor housing and the same compressor inducer size. The differences are in the divided thrust-bearing design and the P15 exhaust housing. This allows the VF35 to spool slightly quicker than the VF34 at the cost of less top-end performance.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.

IHI VF36
(430cfm, 250-325whp, Modification Required)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V8-V9 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec-C Type RA. The VF36 is a twin-scroll turbocharger that utilizes a ball bearing design, a P25 exhaust housing, and Titanium (possibly TiAl?) compressor wheel for improved spool. It is essentially a fast spooling VF34.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.
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IHI VF37
(430cfm, 250-325whp, Modification Required)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V8-V9 Subaru Impreza WRX STI. The VF37 is a twin-scroll turbocharger that utilizes a thrust bearing design and a P25 exhaust housing. It is essentially a fast spooling VF30.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.
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IHI VF38
The VF38 is a twin-scroll that utilizes a Titanium turbine and shaft. This turbocharger yields tremendous spool-up but offers less top-end than the VF36/VF37. The spool capabilities of this turbo are demonstrated on the JDM Legacy GT, which reaches peak torque at 2400RPM.

IHI VF39
(250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the USDM Subaru Impreza WRX STI. It can be found on all model years from 2004-2006. The VF39 utilizes a thrust bearing design and the P18 exhaust housing.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 3000-3500rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles that utilize this turbo aftermarket. Though they are prone to cracking, VF39ís can be had for very cheap if bought used.
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IHI VF40
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IHI VF42
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM Subaru Impreza WRX STi S203 and S204. The VF42 features a twin-scroll design with a slightly larger compressor than the VF36/VF37 turbos and different turbine design (more blades). The VF42 is a roller-bearing turbo and is similar in size to the VF22 turbo, but the twin-scroll exhaust housing yields faster spool-up and a superior top-end.

IHI VF43
(250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the MY07 USDM Subaru Impreza WRX STI. It can be found on both base STI's and STI Limited's. The VF43 utilizes a thrust bearing design and the P18 exhaust housing. The difference between the VF43 and the VF39 used previously on STI's is the size of the wastegate. The VF43 has a larger wastegate designed to reduce boost creep issues.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 3000-3500rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles that utilize this turbo aftermarket.

IHI VF46
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the USDM Subaru Legacy GT MY07. The VF46 utilizes a new five-arc scroll design to improve low and midrange performance over the previous VF40.
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Which one would you recomend to a 2.5i (impreza of course) without blowing it to smitherines?
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:43 PM   #244
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Which one would you recomend to a 2.5i (impreza of course) without blowing it to smitherines?
None of the above without lowering your compression.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:11 PM   #245
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None of the above without lowering your compression.
any turbos out there to increase horsepower? I want to decrease my 0-60 time. if no turbos, would a diffrent air filter do the trick?
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Old 04-20-2008, 06:28 AM   #246
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wow! great job, thanks.
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The 08 Sti came standard with the IHI VF 48 turbo. I do not have flow rates on them but according to several vendors on here they are a direct replacement for the 02-07 wrx, and good for 300whp and 400+whtq.

Great list BTW.
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:18 PM   #248
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thanx. this is the most helpful info on turbo upgrades. would i want to go with a smaller turbo or bigger turbo if i want good bottom to mid? i have the stock td04 in my 02 wrx now. I've heard the vf34 is a good one but idk
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:48 PM   #249
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Just a note. I've been told by IHI dealer that the VF39 has been discontinued.

as a side, sort of... the link on the first page has vf34 for $800 and is now $925 in the store. Is there any place to pick up new vf34 for closer to the 800 or vf43?
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Just a note. I've been told by IHI dealer that the VF39 has been discontinued.

as a side, sort of... the link on the first page has vf34 for $800 and is now $925 in the store. Is there any place to pick up new vf34 for closer to the 800 or vf43?
Skip the IHI Turbos. They are use once and throw away. I would never buy one for an upgrade as they cannot be serviced or rebuilt 99% of the time as IHI doesn't sell rebuild kits or parts. Stick with a Mitsubishi hybrid turbo like the 16/18/20G and FP Green / Anything from Deadbolt. Those turbos are fully rebuildable for very cheap.
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