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Old 11-23-2006, 03:17 PM   #1
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No, that's not the name of my new band..

Had a long night with the Thanksgiving traffic yesterday, and subsequently, noticed my clutch acting up. My '03 Leggy suffers from cold clutch shudder in the morning, but that's it for behavioral issues. However, when I was stuck in consistent stop-and-go traffic last night, the clutch started to act very similar to how it does when it's cold. I.E., a very bumpy engagement when first giving it gas. Obviously, this is odd since the car was not cold.

Now, I know Subies have a long history of weak pressure plates, but I don't know if this is what's plaguing my car. Was there ever a formal recall on these parts? Are there any other reasons this might happen? My brother says his Mini has similar behavior whenever it's stuck in stop-and-go traffic, so I really want to chalk it up to simply being stressed, but want to make sure there's not a larger problem at hand.

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Old 11-23-2006, 05:02 PM   #2
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Just replaced my clutch in '00 with factory rebuilt item, new pressure plate, scotch brite the fly wheel. Amazingly the clutch shudder is gone, even when cold!

I don't know what is different with my new parts but the even current generation Legacy still has clutch shudder issues. I think even if you get new parts it will be hit or miss.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:36 PM   #3
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i remember there was a kit that was made to lessen the clutch shudder somewhere??? i know wiscmark should know what i'm talking about.

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Old 11-23-2006, 05:57 PM   #4
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I'm pretty sure the behavior has to do with te clutch disk material. Maybe the temperature/humidity conditions were just right to make the material a bit stiffer than normal?

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Old 11-23-2006, 06:57 PM   #5
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i remember there was a kit that was made to lessen the clutch shudder somewhere??? i know wiscmark should know what i'm talking about.

choung
Ooooh, that would be....clutch.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:46 PM   #6
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For those that complain about clutch shudder, I was talking with a long time subaru tech and he told me two things. One, it is a problem with hydraulic controlled clutches, and two, it's most common for people who hold the clutch in at stops. It is added stress that puts slop into the throwout bearing.

So, one thing to help alleviate that would be to stay on the clutch as little as possible. The cure you're talking about is the PDM Clutch Sleeve. There are a few companies offering this, and it runs about $120 if I recall correctly. I just had my clutch replaced, but I have a cable clutch and he said mine was in perfect shape. So. Convert to a cable clutch too!
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:22 PM   #7
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So, one thing to help alleviate that would be to stay on the clutch as little as possible.
Already doing this. I just wish I knew if the pressure plate was actually a crap unit, and if I should get it replaced.
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