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Old 11-27-2006, 05:38 PM   #1
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Well I could post this in the transmission thread, but I thought I would ask my Legacy Brethren.

I thought it would last longer, but my 3rd gear pooped.

I was just shopping and coming home I have a steep hill. Going up the hill some horrible noises came out of the transmission. 3rd gear is gone.

I limped home in 1st, 2nd and 4th.



What would you replace the tranny with?
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:00 PM   #2
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Well ken, If you have enough money I would go for the STI 6, Or I think Cobb has a Racing 5 spd for sale too.

Otherwise just go with a WRX tranny. Unless you don't like the final drive that is.

Lot's of choices bro


Forget about the Cobb Tranny. I just went to the site and didn't even see the sale section anymore. Then again the site is newly overhauled. I'm sure if you are interested you can call them an ask about tranny's

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Old 11-27-2006, 06:32 PM   #3
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Best bang for the buck would be to outfit your existing 5MT with a performance gear-set. PPG is one option and makes a nice 1-4 syncro helical set for that model of tranny. One thing to note is that you SHOULD NOT continue to drive on it. Any gear fragments floating around in there can get lodged in other gears, syncros, or worst-case (and I’ve seen this) the front diff…

Not sure who in your area is a PPG reseller. I know Xcceleration does PPG, and of course my favorite, the nations largest PPG retailer, Andrewtech/Gearboxtech. They also do nationwide shipping. Pull your tranny, make a small wooden crate, ship it off ground service, and they’ll return it the same way fully built and ready for re-install.

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Old 11-27-2006, 06:46 PM   #4
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They also do nationwide shipping. Pull your tranny, make a small wooden crate, ship it off ground service, and they’ll return it the same way fully built and ready for re-install.
So how would an adventure like this set one back?

Seems to be a better option than dealing with the DCCD wiring nightmare...sure its nice...If it'll ever work
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:56 PM   #5
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another option is a JDM 4.11 WRX 5mt. They run right around $700-1000 and have shot-peened gears and nice ratios. Should hold STi power just fine up to 300whp or so.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:54 PM   #6
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My vote goes for the custom PPG gearset. A 6MT would be nice, but you're making enough power that shifting it all the time would become tedious.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:25 AM   #7
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My plans were to use this tranny until I could afford a 6 speed.

I guess now the question is, do I try to find another small band aid fix, or go full STI 6 speed. The problem is timing. Just before the holidays, plus my wife hasn't been working the last four months (new baby) that splurging for the STI 6 would be tough.

I was wondering if there was another set of gears I could use that would not be as expensive. I had the impression the PPG gears are pretty pricey.

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Oh, I guess I should mention I used my Legacy tranny because I don't like the gear ratios of the WRX.

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Old 11-28-2006, 02:35 AM   #8
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wrc sequential tranny? I heard they just leave those laying about the service areas, stuff one in your suitcase. Rally GB is coming up...
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:12 AM   #9
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Wait a minute; aren’t you running the LGT internals inside a wrx case to get the new clutch style setup?

If that’s so you’ll need to fix that tranny or switch over to an OE wrx model with stronger gears and install your front-diff or R&P. Those are the only cheap options. There are the less-expensive RA gear sets available too (i.e. shot-peened like jdm) but no idea if they’ll fit your unique tranny setup, plus are arguably no stronger then the 04+ wrx gears, plus people blow RA’s frequently too.

The PPG or STi 6-speed options are both in the same pricing category. Around 5k for a fully built 5MT PPG box (1-4) or 6k for sti tranny and misc parts. The only downside to the STi tranny is all the augmenting modifications required, new rear diff setup, new rear axle setup and/or rear hub setup, new driveshaft, dccd, etc. I could see the costs snowball quick for the sti setup…

Good luck…
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:44 AM   #10
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Wait a minute; aren’t you running the LGT internals inside a wrx case to get the new clutch style setup?
yep, this is the case.

I'm going to ask my contact today. The new legacy gt uses a 4.11 final drive. So I'm wondering if it is possible to take those gears and put it in my case. It might be a cheaper solution that will work with the power I'm pushing.
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yep, this is the case.

I'm going to ask my contact today. The new legacy gt uses a 4.11 final drive. So I'm wondering if it is possible to take those gears and put it in my case. It might be a cheaper solution that will work with the gear splitting crazy sti powa I'm pushing.
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:48 PM   #12
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The PPG or STi 6-speed options are both in the same pricing category. Around 5k for a fully built 5MT PPG box (1-4) or 6k for sti tranny and misc parts. The only downside to the STi tranny is all the augmenting modifications required, new rear diff setup, new rear axle setup and/or rear hub setup, new driveshaft, dccd, etc. I could see the costs snowball quick for the sti setup…
FWIW, I picked up a full STI tranny/rear end/axles setup on Ebay for about $3500 shipped. I don't intend to use the R180, so I'll sell that to recoup some costs and it makes the swap that much less involved.

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