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Old 11-27-2006, 08:33 PM   #1
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the one from turninconcepts.com that is. i put the bushings in bout a week ago and i could feel the difference with the rear in corners. i was able to coherse my manager into lettin me get my car on the alignment rack to put in the sub frame lock bolts. (were not allowed to work on our own cars) i wanted to read up an see what TIC had to say about the bolts before i put them in. it really changed my alignment too. had to acutally pay for that this time, but oh well. i had to move the subframe forward on the L-side to get the bolt in so that threw my front toe out a fair amount. didnt get a chance to get into her on the way home, but rest assured i will test out how this rear feels
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:02 PM   #2
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Well, I can tell you how the rear will feel...

MUCH more stiff and responsive.

Excellent mod.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:24 PM   #3
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got a pic of this sexy rear end?

which parts are these again?

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Old 11-27-2006, 10:30 PM   #4
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got a pic of this sexy rear end?

which parts are these again?

Shane

Ron's sexy rear end has three parts. Left cheek, right cheek, and crack.

I'm sorry - I couldn't resist.

It's made up of the race version of the rear diff mount bushings, race version of the Kartboy outrigger bushings, and the Whiteline rear subframe lock bolts.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:37 PM   #5
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that’s not a pic, that’s just a description.

hmm, how much does that increase noise? and dont need the kartboy stuff, already have 99% of what they make
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:50 PM   #6
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thatís not a pic, thatís just a description.

hmm, how much does that increase noise? and dont need the kartboy stuff, already have 99% of what they make
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:30 PM   #7
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ha, great image name
guess, i will be ordering shortly

Shane

EDIT, maybe when you site comes back up

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Old 11-27-2006, 11:51 PM   #8
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can we change the title to "trying" or "using" instead of just "installed"?


I'm not sure what the lock bolts do performance-wise, but I can say the diff bushings are awesome. If I get another decent day around here I've got some outrigger bushings to install as well.
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:06 PM   #9
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i dont think that changing the title of this thread would look good on me considering my strong religious backround . anyways, i do feel the difference from just the bushings and adding the lock bolts. the pass. side went in ok, the drivers side i had to move the subframe forward bout 1/8". this in turn knocked out my drivers side toe to + 0.62, and then the rear needed a lil tweak as well. overall i am glad that i installed the kit. also im happy that im one of the few that can say

"Well, I can tell you how the rear will feel...

MUCH more stiff and responsive.

Excellent mod."

(thanks jayd707)
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:01 PM   #10
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Glad you like my rear end.
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Old 11-30-2006, 06:12 PM   #11
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I'm not sure what the lock bolts do performance-wise, but I can say the diff bushings are awesome.
So what does the lock bolts do exactly? Do they replace the studs on the back of the diff? Just a little lost and couldn't find an answer.

Thanks!

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Old 12-02-2006, 12:47 PM   #12
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u can get the info at www.whiteline.com.au but it locks out the rear subframe bushings by connecting the subframe to the frame. apparently subaru does this on the assembly line when the first align the cars to get a more precise alignment, then they take out the bolts. anyways there is a pic an install instructions that should give u a better understanding

http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/ins...200_KSB750.pdf

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Old 12-02-2006, 04:42 PM   #13
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You'll probably also find like I did, that your rear end is WAY out of whack when you install the subframe bolts. Not only does it align it, but they remove 100% of the bushings' compliance back there for a firmer rear end. Be sure to get your alignment checked if/when you get them as it WILL be off.
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Old 12-02-2006, 05:00 PM   #14
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Sweet! Thanks for the info!


So if you leave them in all the time it will cause wear on the frame. So if you take them out between races, like it says on that pdf file, wont it mess up the rear end's alingnment?

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Old 12-08-2006, 01:57 PM   #15
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uee!!! my next mod....muahahah actually...the KAAZ LSD then this...I need the car to run first...damns....I need to get the bearing clamp and do my front wheel bearing...lols
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Old 12-09-2006, 09:30 PM   #16
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i just went through some rear diff things recently and this is some of the stuff i didnt know

Well, the RS and MZ work differently. RS is a lot more responsive and its low initial torque setting gives it more ďbiteĒ. RWD cars that use CUSCO diffs typically use RS diffs. But then once again, it really depends on the tuner and the car. Itís all a matter of setup. I do know, however, that type MZ makes less noise.

You can reduce some of the noise by using different diff oil. I would recommend some Redline Light Duty Shockproof oil (blue stuff) and add some Redline slipping modifier into it.

Your car is similar to early JDM WRX/ WRX RA. If you had an RS, youíd be in trouble.

Diffís lock up does not go by %. LSDís always lock up, what you can change is how progressively quick it locks up and at what torque.

For gear sets, I would not bother with any aftermarket gear sets. RA gear set seems to be the most common upgrade. My preference is the 6MT non-DCCD swap. But RA set is the next best thing.

Quafe is nice. Itís mechanics are totally different and they donít make nearly as much noise. KAAZ are the dynosaurís of the LSDís. Very primitive and very aggressive. Even more so aggressive than RS cusco diffs.

If the dealership installed it, it should be installed correctly.

You just need to get used to the diff and how it works. It should work well for you. Low speed tight tracks will make your car understeer. You also have to remember, that your driving style has to change a bit. The car needs to be tossed around more and you must retain it in its powerband. Other wise the car will plow because the diff is locking up.

Donít stress. Try the oil I am suggesting and I think you will like it more.


i got it from www.z1auto.com but i would recommend goin to http://www.cusco.co.jp/english/e_cont.html if u are interested in a cusco. Bozz performance seemed to me to be a lot more helpful then Z-1. but thats my opinion
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:12 PM   #17
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What does that have to do with Unabomber's ass?
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:36 PM   #18
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to let him know, just passin info on
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Old 12-11-2006, 09:11 PM   #19
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ohh, my box of Unabombers sexy rear end just showed up. i would have figured that his rear end was much bigger then this, but either way. way cool. lots of free goodies from TIC as well.
TIC you rock
will install soon.

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Old 12-11-2006, 09:23 PM   #20
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ohh, my box of Unabombers sexy rear end just showed up. i would have figured that his rear end was much bigger then this, but either way. way cool. lots of free goodies from TIC as well.
TIC you rock
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There is no way you can tell me Tom has ever sent you that many goodies. evAr!!
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Old 12-11-2006, 09:28 PM   #21
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um, i think you are corect. This is the first time i have seen this many army men at once

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Old 04-02-2007, 11:10 AM   #22
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Just wanted to share that I too installed this kit over the weekend and omg, especially the addition of the rear diff bushings, it feels great!!

Thanks to Clint at TiC for the info/quick shipment/army men and to all the folks who posted opinions/install notes - made it pretty easy to do myself.

I would recommend to anyone who wants to get rid of some of the sloppy play they feel in the rear end. I ordered the comfort version of both bushings and so far the NVH increase is barely noticeable.
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:45 AM   #23
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How much concern is there for the "premature wear" clause in the instructions?
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:04 PM   #24
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ill let u know when the rear falls out... but seriously, i put the lock bolts in and like it a lot. i think they just have to put that in there so there are no repercussions if something were to happen, like someone forgets to tighten the subframe back up or somethin. u can get the kit without the lock bolts to, i think its called the klunk killers race or somethin like that. id say go for the lock bolts tho. i was amazed at how off my alignment was after installed them.
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:03 PM   #25
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I've had subframe lock bolts in my 2002 for 70k miles.
The note about premature wear worried me, too. People on here who know told me not to worry, and they were right.
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