Potential Legacy Owner?

TarDawg · 11-28-2006, 04:28 PM

Hi crew I'm a loyal Honda owner but am absolutely in love with the 06-07 Legacy GT. So hopefully in the next 6 months or so i'll be trading in the civic for a certified used one. My question is what are the cons of this car? What should I be looking out for?

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Wiscon_Mark · 11-28-2006, 04:40 PM

Cons?

Gas Mileage. No fold down rear seats in the 05-06 sedan. No 5MT in the 06-07 GT wagon (however, the outback XT has it).

badbasser98 · 11-28-2006, 05:35 PM

I wouldn't really say there are any cons. Although I am a bit biased I guess

I'd search legacygt.com if you haven't already. They are focused on the BL/BP models.

janikphoto · 11-28-2006, 05:59 PM

cons... i don't have one yet.

rougeben83 · 11-28-2006, 07:04 PM

Cons; you won't be able to stop yourself from modding it

TarDawg · 11-28-2006, 07:28 PM

thanks guys! I'll try legacygt.com also to get a feel!!! wish me luck

b4subie · 11-28-2006, 10:54 PM

GET THE LEGACY!

I have also had Hondas before (Civics, CRXs & Integras). I love so much about the car I could write 100 lines glowing about it. Only things I do not like (keep in mind I have owned Saabs, Infinitis and Acuras) ...
1) Leather seems low quality compared to my $40K Saab this might not be an apples to apples comparison!
2) Rear sear DOES NOT fold down on 2005-06 models, 2007 does
3) Built quality is a little less than Honda standards but not by much.
4) The 2.5 engine turbo is GREAT .... likes gas just a little more than I expected (250hp for 2005-06 243hp for 2007).
5) NO issues at all with break-downs, I am at 6K miles now
6) Factory radio is poor sounding

I would never go back to Hondas after having this car. It has too much unique qualities about it. PLUS it is not EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK! (Civic, Camry, Accord ... need I say more?!) BEST OF LUCK! I know where there is a used black 2005 GT, Auto with 29K miles for sale ... asking $21,500.

Wiscon_Mark · 11-28-2006, 10:56 PM

Oh right. You cant' replace the factory radio either

Biggest drawback right there, IMO.

janikphoto · 11-28-2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiscon_Mark

Oh right. You cant' replace the factory radio either

Biggest drawback right there, IMO.

That is a HUUUUUGE con. I can understand stupid american manufacturers doing that, but why would a japanese company make such a mistake?!?

rougeben83 · 11-28-2006, 11:21 PM

You can't change it...yet.

If they can make a DIN adapter kit for a Mazda MPV (which uses one of those non-standard radio mounts either), a Legacy version should be coming out soon as well.

Wiscon_Mark · 11-29-2006, 12:28 AM

It's not the mounts. It's the integrated electronics where everything in the HVAC & radio is shared.

andivic · 11-29-2006, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiscon_Mark

It's not the mounts. It's the integrated electronics where everything in the HVAC & radio is shared.

Certain JDM model has separated head unit and HVAC unit. pretty nice

Is this doable to our USDM ?

Plays_With_toys · 11-29-2006, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b4subie

4) The 2.5 engine turbo is GREAT .... likes gas just a little more than I expected (250hp for 2005-06 243hp for 2007).
.

Power stayed the same between the years, the way they test said power changed.

TarDawg · 11-29-2006, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiscon_Mark

It's not the mounts. It's the integrated electronics where everything in the HVAC & radio is shared.

hmmm i had a 2004 Accord and all the HVAC controls were run throught the radio unit also. Metra made a kit that kept the HVAC controls and had a single din opening for the aftermarket radio. Surely they could do the same for the subby.

TarDawg · 11-29-2006, 10:18 AM

actually won't this work?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WF7nExR...display=XL#Tab

rougeben83 · 11-29-2006, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarDawg

actually won't this work?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WF7nExR...display=XL#Tab

Hey hey, there you go

. Yeah, I haven't heard about this in the legacygt forums either, but I don't visit their interior forum much. Metra makes good adapter kits from what I've seen in other car installs. Very clean and OEM

TarDawg · 11-29-2006, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rougeben83

Hey hey, there you go

. Yeah, I haven't heard about this in the legacygt forums either, but I don't visit their interior forum much. Metra makes good adapter kits from what I've seen in other car installs. Very clean and OEM

so then it sounds like i've solved the problem of the biggest con to owning one!!! I'll probably be purchasing one in Jan/Feb!!!

Wiscon_Mark · 11-29-2006, 01:34 PM

I don't see that doing anything for you wiring wise...

TarDawg · 11-29-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiscon_Mark

I don't see that doing anything for you wiring wise...

looks like you'd have to move all the controls from the stock faceplate to the new one. But i'll have to wait to get the car to dissect this.

Wiscon_Mark · 11-29-2006, 01:53 PM

What I mean is that I think the wiring between the radio and the HVAC is integrated, and you'd need a harness adapter for it.

TarDawg · 11-29-2006, 01:58 PM

hmm odd. I would think there would be seperate harnesses for the radio and HVAC. Got to love those Japanese always keeping us on our toes!!!

Wiscon_Mark · 11-29-2006, 02:42 PM

That's not even bad. In some GM cars, if you removed the factory radio, you could lose cruise control and various other (seemingly) nonrelated electronics

rougeben83 · 11-29-2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiscon_Mark

What I mean is that I think the wiring between the radio and the HVAC is integrated, and you'd need a harness adapter for it.

It's only a problem if you have the automatic climate control. If you have manual controls, it'll work fine.

Forgot to note there's like 2 DIN slots that are taken up by cubby holes/storage on the center console. Some people have just used one of those for a regular HU, or rigged something up for a full DVD double-DIN setup and left the stock stereo in place to keep their automatic climate control. I remember one even retaining the cubby hole cover so he can hide his expensive HU and look like he has a stock centerconsole.

OP, search the interior forums on Legacygt.com there are a lot more people that have done creative solutions with regards to the integrated audio problem.

Like I said, it's not a big enough problem to make or break the deal when there's plenty of options out there; just got to be creative.

Here's one of the easier installs done.

Wiscon_Mark · 11-29-2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rougeben83

It's only a problem if you have the automatic climate control.

Isn't that standard on all 06-07s now?

rougeben83 · 11-29-2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiscon_Mark

Isn't that standard on all 06-07s now?

I don't know

It seems you can't switch to manual controls either, as one guy tried to do it but lost defroster control...

BE 4 L1F3

11-28-2006, 04:28 PM	#1
TarDawg Scooby Newbie Member#: 133477 Join Date: Nov 2006	Potential Legacy Owner? Hi crew I'm a loyal Honda owner but am absolutely in love with the 06-07 Legacy GT. So hopefully in the next 6 months or so i'll be trading in the civic for a certified used one. My question is what are the cons of this car? What should I be looking out for? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

11-28-2006, 10:54 PM	#7
b4subie Scooby Newbie Member#: 129263 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Richardson, TX Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT LTD Satin Pearl White	Legacy GT GET THE LEGACY! I have also had Hondas before (Civics, CRXs & Integras). I love so much about the car I could write 100 lines glowing about it. Only things I do not like (keep in mind I have owned Saabs, Infinitis and Acuras) ... 1) Leather seems low quality compared to my $40K Saab this might not be an apples to apples comparison! 2) Rear sear DOES NOT fold down on 2005-06 models, 2007 does 3) Built quality is a little less than Honda standards but not by much. 4) The 2.5 engine turbo is GREAT .... likes gas just a little more than I expected (250hp for 2005-06 243hp for 2007). 5) NO issues at all with break-downs, I am at 6K miles now 6) Factory radio is poor sounding I would never go back to Hondas after having this car. It has too much unique qualities about it. PLUS it is not EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK! (Civic, Camry, Accord ... need I say more?!) BEST OF LUCK! I know where there is a used black 2005 GT, Auto with 29K miles for sale ... asking $21,500.

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11-28-2006, 04:40 PM	#2
Wiscon_Mark Scooby Guru Member#: 94945 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Stevens Point, WI Vehicle: 1995 Legacy OB 5MT 2003 Forester X 5MT	Cons? Gas Mileage. No fold down rear seats in the 05-06 sedan. No 5MT in the 06-07 GT wagon (however, the outback XT has it).

11-28-2006, 05:35 PM	#3
badbasser98 Scooby Specialist Member#: 104801 Join Date: Jan 2006 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Upstate, NY Vehicle: 2011 WRX Limited SWP	I wouldn't really say there are any cons. Although I am a bit biased I guess I'd search legacygt.com if you haven't already. They are focused on the BL/BP models.

11-28-2006, 05:59 PM	#4
janikphoto Scooby Specialist Member#: 10471 Join Date: Sep 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Dallas, TX Vehicle: 2000 BMW Z3 sold Outback & ForesterXT	cons... i don't have one yet.

11-28-2006, 07:04 PM	#5
rougeben83 Scooby Guru Member#: 115154 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: NYC Vehicle: 2003 Legacy L Turbo silver	Cons; you won't be able to stop yourself from modding it

11-28-2006, 07:28 PM	#6
TarDawg Scooby Newbie Member#: 133477 Join Date: Nov 2006	thanks guys! I'll try legacygt.com also to get a feel!!! wish me luck

11-28-2006, 10:56 PM	#8
Wiscon_Mark Scooby Guru Member#: 94945 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Stevens Point, WI Vehicle: 1995 Legacy OB 5MT 2003 Forester X 5MT	Oh right. You cant' replace the factory radio either Biggest drawback right there, IMO.

11-28-2006, 11:21 PM	#10
rougeben83 Scooby Guru Member#: 115154 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: NYC Vehicle: 2003 Legacy L Turbo silver	You can't change it...yet. If they can make a DIN adapter kit for a Mazda MPV (which uses one of those non-standard radio mounts either), a Legacy version should be coming out soon as well.

11-29-2006, 12:28 AM	#11
Wiscon_Mark Scooby Guru Member#: 94945 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Stevens Point, WI Vehicle: 1995 Legacy OB 5MT 2003 Forester X 5MT	It's not the mounts. It's the integrated electronics where everything in the HVAC & radio is shared.

11-29-2006, 10:18 AM	#15
TarDawg Scooby Newbie Member#: 133477 Join Date: Nov 2006	actually won't this work? http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WF7nExR...display=XL#Tab

11-29-2006, 01:34 PM	#18
Wiscon_Mark Scooby Guru Member#: 94945 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Stevens Point, WI Vehicle: 1995 Legacy OB 5MT 2003 Forester X 5MT	I don't see that doing anything for you wiring wise...

11-29-2006, 01:53 PM	#20
Wiscon_Mark Scooby Guru Member#: 94945 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Stevens Point, WI Vehicle: 1995 Legacy OB 5MT 2003 Forester X 5MT	What I mean is that I think the wiring between the radio and the HVAC is integrated, and you'd need a harness adapter for it.

11-29-2006, 01:58 PM	#21
TarDawg Scooby Newbie Member#: 133477 Join Date: Nov 2006	hmm odd. I would think there would be seperate harnesses for the radio and HVAC. Got to love those Japanese always keeping us on our toes!!!

11-29-2006, 02:42 PM	#22
Wiscon_Mark Scooby Guru Member#: 94945 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Stevens Point, WI Vehicle: 1995 Legacy OB 5MT 2003 Forester X 5MT	That's not even bad. In some GM cars, if you removed the factory radio, you could lose cruise control and various other (seemingly) nonrelated electronics