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Old 11-28-2006, 10:22 PM   #1
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On nitrous expresses website, they sell there N-tercooler nitrous kit, that uses a ring to spray nitrous on to your intercooler, reducing your air inlet temperture. Pretty much serving the same function of the CryO2 co2 sprayer kits. However, on NX's website they have a list of Hot accessories for the N-tercooler kit, and one of them is a bottle heater.... Wouldent you want the nitrous that is spraying onto your intercooler to be cold, not warm?
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:22 PM   #2
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:34 PM   #3
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Wouldent you want the nitrous that is spraying onto your intercooler to be cold, not warm?

You're right, but for the wrong reason. The purpose of the bottle wamer is to maintain sufficient pressure in the tank (900-1100psi), which does little to raise the temp of nitrous therein. If in doubt, heat a bottle of nitrous, hold your hand in front of the valve, and open. Verrry cold! (And quite dangerous, too!)
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:52 PM   #4
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Hmm I see, you wouldent happen to know if this product: http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/nxd5000.htm
can be used in conjunction with the n-tercooler sprayer?
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:08 PM   #5
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I am pretty sure you can use that controller for your application....
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:31 PM   #6
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Hmm I see, you wouldent happen to know if this product: http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/nxd5000.htm
can be used in conjunction with the n-tercooler sprayer?
hey, thats pretty nice. Im getting that. Thanks.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:20 PM   #7
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the progressive controller would work, but would be quite pointless. it sprays less nitrous at low rpms and more as the rpms increase. why would you need that for an intercooler sprayer?

progressive nitrous controllers are great, but would be counter-productive and worthless when used with an intercooler sprayer.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:00 PM   #8
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^^^ Umm, it would spray more nitrous with more boost. Thus removing more heat from the hotter air charge. I don't see how that would be pointless.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:13 PM   #9
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the Ntercooler kit can also be configured to run CO2 instead of nitrous
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:33 PM   #10
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^^^ Umm, it would spray more nitrous with more boost. Thus removing more heat from the hotter air charge. I don't see how that would be pointless.
it would be pointless because its not necessary. why not just spray the same amount throughout the powerband? it would spray more as boost increased. thats true. but there's no point as you would actually miss out on horsepower by progressively spraying your intercooler.

i'll try and break it down as i understand it....

say you have a 100 shot on your car and you install a progressive nitrous system. it will begin spraying around a 25 shot in the low rpms and gradually increase to a 100 hp shot, but it will never go above 100.

if you were to use this on an intercooler sprayer, you would actually miss out on horsepower in the low end, because you would not be spraying the intercooler to the full potential throughout the powerband.

this would be like having a controller gradually add ice to an air-water intercooler. it could work, but there's no point because you're missing out on horsepower in thelow end.
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it would be pointless because its not necessary. why not just spray the same amount throughout the powerband? it would spray more as boost increased. thats true. but there's no point as you would actually miss out on horsepower by progressively spraying your intercooler.

i'll try and break it down as i understand it....

say you have a 100 shot on your car and you install a progressive nitrous system. it will begin spraying around a 25 shot in the low rpms and gradually increase to a 100 hp shot, but it will never go above 100.

if you were to use this on an intercooler sprayer, you would actually miss out on horsepower in the low end, because you would not be spraying the intercooler to the full potential throughout the powerband.

this would be like having a controller gradually add ice to an air-water intercooler. it could work, but there's no point because you're missing out on horsepower in thelow end.
well put...
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:55 PM   #12
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if you were to use this on an intercooler sprayer, you would actually miss out on horsepower in the low end, because you would not be spraying the intercooler to the full potential throughout the powerband.

this would be like having a controller gradually add ice to an air-water intercooler. it could work, but there's no point because you're missing out on horsepower in thelow end.
You don't need to cool the IC at the "low end", because your intake charge isn't being compressed & heated by the turbo. The IC heating begins with compression by turbo, induced at higher RPMs.

PV=nRT

Increased pressure ---> increased temp, when all else is kept the same.

That said, you can probably put your hard-earned dollars to work in better ways than a compressed-gas IC cooler, especially if it's blowing CO2...just a whisper of that in the intake is about as bad as you can get.
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Actually it is more beneficial to spray it on the low end. When was the last time your intercooler heatsoaked going 50 MPH. MIne usually gets heatsoaked when I am going slow or standing still, therefore it would cool it off immediately and you wouldnt have to worry about heatsoak.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:40 AM   #14
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these things IMO are all wastes of your money. most reall test done on intercooler sprayers show they dont work. if you spray CO2 the test show you lose power becuase to much gas gets into the intake. if you use nitrous you will see an increase in power but it is mostly due to the fact that an uncontroled amount of nitrous is entering your engine which will lead to if going boom.

if you are looking for a way to reduce heat soak at the track i suggest using something like this. http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sp&pid=4

or better yet what i will be using cryofuzion.com's product
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