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Old 12-03-2006, 03:54 PM   #1
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I removed the jack holder and mounted it on the other side of the trunk.

The strut tower already had threads to screw in one side of the pump. Don't know where they came from. I ran the water lines under the car from the tank to the pump.

I also went to radioshack and bought a $2.99 LED light so I can see when the methanol injection is on. I ran the 12v positive to the 12v positive on the pump so when it turns on the light turns on. Plus it takes up one of four of my dummy buttons.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:48 PM   #2
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do you notice that LED when it comes on? I was wondering where to put mine and I figured I wouldn't be able to see it down there.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:58 PM   #3
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Ben, do you still have your stock clock, or do you have gauges up there?

If you have the clock in place I would think that would be a perfect place to add a LED.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:31 PM   #4
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It's clearly visible, I put it there so I didn't have to drill any holes in the dash and I don't have a pillar or else I would have put it in there.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:34 PM   #5
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Looks nice. Curious, did you run the 12.8 with meth injection or pump gas?
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:42 PM   #6
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12.8 was on pump, no meth, and on Cobb base map. No times for the new setup yet. New time should come on Dec. 10th at the import challenge.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:46 PM   #7
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How exactly does meth injection work? What HP can you get from it?
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:13 PM   #8
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How exactly does meth injection work? What HP can you get from it?
Thats a very vague question. HP will all depend on the tune, but will help significantly. Theres an awesome sticky that goes into great detail about how it works and everything. Read up.
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:16 PM   #9
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Nice numbers with the Cobb OTS map. I haven't decided if I want to go with the VF39 or the 18g just yet. I like the low price of a used VF39, but I like the power potential of the 18g.

What intercooler did you go with?

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Old 12-04-2006, 01:03 AM   #10
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I like the vf39 because of how cheap it costs, I got the vf39 and sti tmic for $550 here on the board. If I were to go bigger I'd go with a 20g and stick with a tmic.
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Old 12-04-2006, 09:14 AM   #11
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clean install...
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:11 PM   #12
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It's ok to mount the pump in the engine bay? did you have a priming pump on that tank in the trunk?
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:25 PM   #13
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I've done this same set up with one of my other cars and it worked perfectly fine. No priming pump. Just made sure the tank sat lower than the pump and the pump sat lower than the nozzle. That's how I've always done it. I do it this way especially when not using a check valve. I've never used a check valve but was going to with this kit and I could never get water to run through it (it was pointing the right direction). So I just made sure the nozzle is higher than the pump so no more meth flows in after the pump has stopped pumping. Working fine so far. The only thing I'll do is when I go to the track switch it over to constant to make sure it's primed and then switch it right back.
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:16 PM   #14
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The Coolingmist kits use a Shurflo pump; they are self-priming, so no need to run a priming pump in the trunk. Also, there is no need to pay attention to the level of the tank in relation to the mounting of the pump; Shurflo pumps can prime properly when mounted up to 8ft. above their source.
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:25 PM   #15
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My Shurflo doesn't self prime
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:36 PM   #16
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My Shurflo doesn't self prime
When you first install the system (or when it's empty of water), the Shurflo should pressurize the system with liquid and shut off. If it's not priming the system, it's possible the pump is "locked up" due to air in the lines. Purge the system of air, and your pump should start.
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:43 PM   #17
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Placement of the tank/pump is the #1 reason why a system would not prime. This is exactly why the poster in this thread could not get the checkvalve to work with the kit.

We never recommend to put the pump and tank on the opposite sides of the vehicle. Even though the system works without the checkvalve, I recommend you put a water pressure gauge to see your PSI. My guess is that your PSI is very low.

In many cases our customers have the location of the tank in the wrong place and it will not prime. Take the checkvalve out of the picture and it appears to work, but in reality the pump is working alot harder and does not have as much pressure.

I hope that is not the case and you are getting proper pressure, but I would doubt it.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:34 PM   #18
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what about this layout?

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Old 12-04-2006, 05:38 PM   #19
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When you first install the system (or when it's empty of water), the Shurflo should pressurize the system with liquid and shut off. If it's not priming the system, it's possible the pump is "locked up" due to air in the lines. Purge the system of air, and your pump should start.
EDIT I don't know what I'm talking about... The aquamist/shurflo can self-prime up tp 6 ft vertical.

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what about this layout?

Thats beautiful

My comments were related to putting a pump in the engine bay and a tank in the trunk (or vise-versa).
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:48 PM   #21
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I'm sorry, I should have clarified, my Shurflo pump (the Aquamist spec'd version) doesn't self-prime. It's how it was designed
Ah ha... I get it Sorry, it's Monday, so I missed that.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:58 PM   #22
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Placement of the tank/pump is the #1 reason why a system would not prime. This is exactly why the poster in this thread could not get the checkvalve to work with the kit.

We never recommend to put the pump and tank on the opposite sides of the vehicle. Even though the system works without the checkvalve, I recommend you put a water pressure gauge to see your PSI. My guess is that your PSI is very low.

In many cases our customers have the location of the tank in the wrong place and it will not prime. Take the checkvalve out of the picture and it appears to work, but in reality the pump is working alot harder and does not have as much pressure.

I hope that is not the case and you are getting proper pressure, but I would doubt it.
Hmm... I've never had a problem with a Shurflo priming or pumping aside from air in the system locking them up. Granted, I never run the pump up front and the tank in the back.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if the pump is able the prime the system, the outlet should be pressurized properly, and liquid should inject at the correct pressure. I definitely agree that you're overworking the pump, though.
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Hmm... I've never had a problem with a Shurflo priming or pumping aside from air in the system locking them up. Granted, I never run the pump up front and the tank in the back.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if the pump is able the prime the system, the outlet should be pressurized properly, and liquid should inject at the correct pressure. I definitely agree that you're overworking the pump, though.
"self priming" is an overstatement. They are self priming when everything is setup correct. In most cases if you put the pump above the tank the system will not prime (if you use a checkvalve). We know this from experience.

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Old 12-04-2006, 06:32 PM   #24
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"self priming" is an overstatement. They are self priming when everything is setup correct. In most cases if you put the pump above the tank the system will not prime (if you use a checkvalve). We know this from experience.

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Don't know about the check valve; I'm using a solenoid. My Shurflo pump primes fine and it's mounted above my tank, and both are located in my trunk.

Personally, I wouldn't mount the tank in the trunk and the pump in the engine bay as I didn't want any resistance on the input side. Also on the output side (line leading to the engine bay), I use an accumulator between the pump and solenoid to keep line pressure up and stable.
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Nice numbers with the Cobb OTS map. I haven't decided if I want to go with the VF39 or the 18g just yet. I like the low price of a used VF39, but I like the power potential of the 18g.

What intercooler did you go with?

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Thanks for the link.
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