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Old 12-12-2006, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default DENT Sport Garage dyno is official!

I also posted this in the Vendor Announcement forum:

DENT Sport Garage of Norwood, MA is proud to announce the acquisition of a Dyno Dynamics AWD chassis dynamometer. DSG has teamed up with Matt Koestner of MKTuned to form what could be considered an industry powerhouse. DSG is now capable of handling your entire Subaru project from start to finish under one roof. No more taking cars out of the shop to tune. We are currently offering custom in-house developed Subaru reflashes and custom tuning for all Subaru models. For any questions, please contact Matt, his email is MattK@dentsport.com. For more info on Matt, check here: http://www.dentsport.com/?p=186

We are looking at a 6-8 week time line as far as delivery and setup is concerned. Keep checking the DSG website (www.dentsport.com) for more info!
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:01 PM   #2
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Awesome. A Dyno Dynamics is not cheap. Congrats guys - you're on fire.


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Old 12-12-2006, 12:33 PM   #3
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Just in time for my 1st baseline dyno, hella sweet!

Congrats & good luck
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:37 PM   #4
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Nice.
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:37 PM   #5
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Fantastic... now i have a treadmill for my fat ass.
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:03 PM   #6
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sweet. any idea of how it will be setup? Cell being built? good air flow?

thanks
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:11 PM   #7
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Sweetness, an even shorter drive than Ayer.
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:33 PM   #8
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sweet. any idea of how it will be setup? Cell being built? good air flow?

thanks
-Eric
Probably not a dedicated cell right away, but I can tell you that we will have one of the most advanced fume extraction and cooling airflow systems in the area. There are plans for top-mount specific ducting to insure proper airflow through the core for Subarus and other top-mount setups. We [DSG] have a lot of experience with Subaru vehicles and can promise you the best service in the area.
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:41 PM   #9
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I can't wait. Congrats DSG!!!
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:15 PM   #10
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A buddy of mine went there and told me they're new dyno runs low...

IBtypicalNASIOCnitwit
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:32 PM   #11
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Awesome news ... Congrats on the new toy ...

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We are currently offering custom in-house developed Subaru reflashes and custom tuning for all Subaru models.
Any plans for the not so custom ecu programs? ... ECUTek, AP, UTEC etc. ...
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:34 PM   #12
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A buddy of mine went there and told me they're new dyno runs low...

IBtypicalNASIOCnitwit
That wont be possible with the new calibration software. DD to read like DJ now.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:38 PM   #13
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Awesome news ... Congrats on the new toy ...



Any plans for the not so custom ecu programs? ... ECUTek, AP, UTEC etc. ...
No to ECUTek and Protuner. Matt can provide a comparable tune without the expense of licensing and the inconvenience of the AP, although you won't be able to brag to your friends about that shiny new ECUTek license. We can do UTEC. No problems tuning a StreetTuner if you buy it and bring it to us, we already have some local guys happily running DSG Tuned ST setups.

To the people who complain about low numbers: Do you want a 'big bragging number' or do you want an accurate, repeatable tool for calibrating an engine management system? A DD will not deliver the inflated numbers a Dynojet does, however trap speeds don't lie.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:47 PM   #14
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so, what is your tuning software of choice at DSG?
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:26 PM   #15
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<Borat>Very nice.</Borat> Also curious about your preferred tuning software. COM allows ECU tuning, but not piggybacks, I think. Not 100% sure.

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To the people who complain about low numbers: Do you want a 'big bragging number' or do you want an accurate, repeatable tool for calibrating an engine management system? A DD will not deliver the inflated numbers a Dynojet does, however trap speeds don't lie.
I think REDrum was being facetious. Check your sarcasm meter, it's b0rked.

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Old 12-12-2006, 04:30 PM   #16
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nice!

now, the kicker. how much for dyno time? (i do most of my own tuning, but hate road tuning due to the ludicrous speeds i have to drive to get a good datalog)
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:15 PM   #17
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Raj, we can burn directly to your ECU. It's legal 'cause Ryan was running a similar setup this season. We know that Niall was being sarcastic but since the general audience may have had the same reaction in a non-sarcastic way we decided to give him some credit and treat the response with some thought in case others were actually concerned with that issue.

I love you.

Al

PS- Jasper, we're working on that. It'll be inline with our competitors.
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:39 PM   #18
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[quote=re92;16300892 I think REDrum was being facetious. Check your sarcasm meter [/QUOTE]

It was DSG's FACETIOUS meter that was 'bOrked'; thats why they didn't get it. I was there last week and their sarcasm meter was fully calibrated and spot on.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:12 PM   #19
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Raj- I should elaborate on that flash thing.. the rules of COm (and I'm going to be hit with a Miata tomorrow if I'm wrong) are that you can reflash/reprogram the ECU as long as you don't raise boost.

There are still major advantages to be had without touching the boost, especially with drive by wire that Ryan took advantage of to make more power. I suggest that you do it, whether it's with us or otherwise.. your car will be a lot faster.



AL, at home snuggling with Niall.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:27 PM   #20
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Oh I agree. The rule is:
Code:
CHG	    B. In cars using computers, software or hardware replacement or
CHG	changes of the factory ECU is permitted. Ignition coil may be
	upgraded. Any ignition may be used as long as the stock spark trigger
CHG	(distributor) is used. Forced induction cars must use stock boost
CHG	levels.
That seems to make it seem like piggybacks are legal as well as ECU reflash/reprogram. FTW! I would like to do it but I don't know if I can afford to.

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Old 12-12-2006, 10:38 PM   #21
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I could see someone protesting a piggyback in ST since its a non-stock 'spark trigger.' You could also argue that the spark trigger is the crank/cam position sensor, thereby making a piggyback legal.

Good pick on the DD. They're hands down the best dyno for tuning. They're not so good at inflating the horsepower balloon.

~Pete
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:47 PM   #22
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i got dibs on the first run on the dyno for customers! If dsg allows it.

Alex and bill, you guys should have a dyno day now instead o f just a dsg bbq
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:46 PM   #23
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If I have an ecutek license and tune, could you still tune my car? Would a DSG tune be comparable in cost to a new Ecutek tune? Feel free to pm me with a rough estimate if so. I finally installed the headers that I bought from you over the summer and ported and wrapped.
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:21 AM   #24
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Foxboro, absolutely we can do that. I'll have Matt PM you today about detalis. The cost would be comparible. For a customer without Ecutek, the savings would be great if they were considering either our flash or Ecutek since we're not selling a license to use our product.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:52 AM   #25
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wait are you guys tuning ecutek im a little confused.
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