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Old 12-12-2006, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default What's Your Throttle Tip-In?

05 WRX basically a Stg2
Stock:
Code:
0.0	2.0	3.9	5.9	7.8	9.8	11.7	13.7	15.6	17.6	19.5	21.5	23.4	25.4	27.3	29.3	31.2	33.2
17	20	24	30	36	44	52	60	68	76	84	92	99	109	119	129	139	151
Protuned:
Code:
0.0	2.0	3.9	5.9	7.8	9.8	11.7	13.7	15.6	17.6	19.5	21.5	23.4	25.4	27.3	29.3	31.2	33.2
0	0	0	0	6	14	22	30	38	46	54	62	69	79	89	99	109	121

Why would my tuner have removed the initial throttle tip-in like that? My AFR is shooting up into the high 16's during tip-in.

What do others run?
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:26 PM   #2
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05 WRX basically a Stg2
Stock:



Why would my tuner have removed the initial throttle tip-in like that?

to conserve gas? ask him maybe....
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:14 PM   #3
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Maybe to remove a rich bog while going hard WOT.....are you using the stock intake? Usually needed if you have a big FMIC too. I have also played around with the throttle delta maps to achieve the same thing.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:45 PM   #4
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Stock TMIC, stock intake.

Here is my current revision that I'm much happier with. Tip in feels better, AFR ratios look better and knock correction is better too.

Code:
0.0	2.0	3.9	5.9	7.8	9.8	11.7	13.7	15.6	17.6	19.5	21.5	23.4	25.4	27.3	29.3	31.2	33.2
11	15	19	24	29	36	42	49	55	61	68	74	80	88	95	103	111	120
Anyone else care to share tables?
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:06 PM   #5
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Who tuned your car?!?
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:17 AM   #6
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I'm not looking to make this about the tuner. Just trying to start a discussion about throttle tip tuning techniques. I can say it wasn't you though! I'm pretty happy with what I've got, but I'm always looking for improvements. I've seen some tables that start with zero, some like the stock start high. I'm somewhere in between. What are the benefits to a lower tip in value (quicker spool, better fuel economy, etc) and what are the benefits of a higher tip-in value (reduced chance of knock, etc)?
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:21 AM   #7
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Im thinking they were possibly trying for quicker spool, possibly? Along the lines of not bogging-rich like stated above. Thats the only reason I could think to run you as lean as 16.x:1.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:39 AM   #8
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how can you changed "Protuned" map??
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how can you changed "Protuned" map??
See this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1152941
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