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Old 12-15-2006, 05:36 PM   #1
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Default Alcoholics Anonymous website is pretty damn nice.

http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/?Media=PlayFlash

Site looks like it was put together by a sober person. But i have to say wwhen i saw the cowboy followed by the wheel chair guys, i started


that there is either a bum or lil jon.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:37 PM   #2
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I don't like them because they push christianity on vulnerable people.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:40 PM   #3
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I don't like them because they push christianity on vulnerable people.
Who better to push Christianity on?
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:41 PM   #4
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I don't like them because they push christianity on vulnerable people.
For those who don't know what wagman is talking about...

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1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
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10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:41 PM   #5
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:41 PM   #6
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I don't like them because they push christianity on vulnerable people.
I can see where you'd think that. However in all honesty, it's not christianity, it's just faith in a higher power. They don't really care if you consider your dog a higher power, as long as you can believe in something and look up to something.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:42 PM   #7
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I look up to nothing higher then the human form. I fail the 12 steps.

Also, A.A. was started by a Christian group, so don't tell me it's not all about Christianity. Sure you can go in there and pray to Allah, but it was and is about Christians.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:42 PM   #8
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I can see where you'd think that. However in all honesty, it's not christianity, it's just faith in a higher power. They don't really care if you consider your dog a higher power, as long as you can believe in something and look up to something.
Is that direct experience or did someone tell you that?

That has not been my experience.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:43 PM   #9
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I look up to nothing higher then the human form. I fail the 12 steps.
I attended 36 meetings.

I'm going to drink plenty of beer after I get off work.


How well do you think I did?
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:43 PM   #10
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Is that direct experience or did someone tell you that?

That has not been my experience.
See my reply above.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:45 PM   #11
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See my reply above.
Got it.

A life around a multitude of raging alcoholics has landed me in more AA-NA meetings than I can count. Christianity has been the kool-aid of choice for most all of them.

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Old 12-15-2006, 05:45 PM   #12
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I can see where you'd think that. However in all honesty, it's not christianity, it's just faith in a higher power. They don't really care if you consider your dog a higher power, as long as you can believe in something and look up to something.
Thats just as bad. All these people who have been helped by things like this fail to see that they did it themselves, and that in itself is something to be proud of.

have faith in yourself, instead of replacing one crutch with another.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:50 PM   #13
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This girl and I had to go to a AA meeting once for school. It was more like church, once they tried to split us up in different groups we bolted.

creepy.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:51 PM   #14
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Nitros has a drinking problem











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Old 12-15-2006, 05:51 PM   #15
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And they were talking about God, not just a "higher power".
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:53 PM   #16
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:53 PM   #17
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Got it.

A life around a multitude of raging alcoholics has landed me in more AA-NA meetings than I can count. Christianity has been the kool-aid of choice for most all of them.

PS sell me your legacy
See my thread in the SE region classifieds or send me a PM.
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Thats just as bad. All these people who have been helped by things like this fail to see that they did it themselves, and that in itself is something to be proud of.

have faith in yourself, instead of replacing one crutch with another.
Well honestly in terms of impact on other people, I'd rather have someone driving down the road singing Jesus carol's than blitzed on their lunch break.

Take it as you will, but till you've met some of these people and talked to them, the 12 step program works well for most of them.
I never was an alcoholic, so i just ****ed with their heads alot. Judge just told me to go because of a stupid trial.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:53 PM   #18
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This girl and I had to go to a AA meeting once for school. It was more like church, once they tried to split us up in different groups we bolted.

creepy.


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Old 12-15-2006, 05:59 PM   #19
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how the hell is a drunk person supposed to make it through that site?! And the letters are all hard to read
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Old 12-15-2006, 06:13 PM   #20
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heh, for a while they had AA meetings at my fire social hall, the one night after our installation dinner, we went in there to get the rest of our beer from the night before and bring it into the fire house. wheeled a keg and 3 cases of beer right through an AA meeting, it was like carrying some bloody meat through lion infested area haha
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:57 PM   #21
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1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
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7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
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10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
I don't see anything here that promotes Christianity. All I see here is "Pick a god, any god would do" or "god as we understand him". The God of the bible, Jesus Christ,(Jehovah manifested in the flesh) is very clear:

Exd 20:2 ¶ I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exd 20:3 ¶ Thou shalt have no other gods before me

They are not teaching Christianity in AA. They are however teaching another gospel of "Find a god to help you get sober. Any god will do. Just hold on to something."
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:00 PM   #22
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I don't see anything here that promotes Christianity. All I see here is "Pick a god, any god would do" or "god as we understand him". The God of the bible, Jesus Christ,(Jehovah manifested in the flesh) is very clear:

Exd 20:2 ¶ I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exd 20:3 ¶ Thou shalt have no other gods before me

They are not teaching Christianity in AA. They are however teaching another gospel of "Find a god to help you get sober. Any god will do. Just hold on to something."
Read. Then post
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:03 PM   #23
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See my thread in the SE region classifieds or send me a PM.
Thanks. I looked. Gonna have to pass.. Thats a lot of scratch for an undriveable car with no title. Bet someone will buy it for a swap though

Thanks
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Thank you kindly sir, but I did.
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