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Old 01-09-2006, 11:58 PM   #1
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Default Anyone actually have JDM mirrors installed?

So, I have a pair of JDM power folding/heated mirrors on the way and I'm wondering if anyone on here has actually installed them.

There are lots of threads on here regarding them, but it seems as though everyone is just talking about them and no one actually had them or had installed them.

So, the two things I'm concerned about obviously is the wiring-how tough is this going to be dealing with not only the folding function but the heat too. Oh, and also the issue of actually seeing with the mirrors is a concern too. Not only the RHD "objects are closer than..." but also it seems as though they don't adjust as much, at least that seems to have been an issue with imprezas.

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Old 01-10-2006, 01:05 AM   #2
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Default Subiegal.com has those mirrors

Go to Jamie's website. Click on 01 RS at the top, then 2005 tuning picture, there will be a list , including her mirror installation.
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:45 AM   #3
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I'm looking for Legacy specific info. I've read all about the Impreza's, but there is no guarantee that those installs will be the same. Especially since the switch isn't the same or even in the same location.

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Old 01-10-2006, 06:49 AM   #4
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I swapped bases when I did mine...that is to say I reused the black plastic USDM part with the painted enclosure/motor/mirror. This required taking off the mirror to get to the bolts/screws holding everything together...also swapped mirrors from one side to the other. Slight modification to the base was required(maybe a 1cm x 1cm cut) to allow the larger motor to base to fit in.

Wiring, which I never got around to, would have required running 2 new wires from each side to the switch, and I never figured out a good place to put a switch, since it was from an impreza.

Keep in mind this was for a BE, but is prolly the same with BD/BG.

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Old 01-10-2006, 10:48 AM   #5
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I swapped bases when I did mine...that is to say I reused the black plastic USDM part with the painted enclosure/motor/mirror. This required taking off the mirror to get to the bolts/screws holding everything together...also swapped mirrors from one side to the other. Slight modification to the base was required(maybe a 1cm x 1cm cut) to allow the larger motor to base to fit in.

Wiring, which I never got around to, would have required running 2 new wires from each side to the switch, and I never figured out a good place to put a switch, since it was from an impreza.

Keep in mind this was for a BE, but is prolly the same with BD/BG.

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But are you saying that you took Impreza JDM mirrors and installed them on your BE? I have model specific BD/BG mirrors on the way to mount up to my BG. The switch sizes are the same shape and go in the same location. I doubt the mirror sizes will even differ, but the base issue is a concern.

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Old 01-10-2006, 11:25 AM   #6
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But are you saying that you took Impreza JDM mirrors and installed them on your BE? I have model specific BD/BG mirrors on the way to mount up to my BG. The switch sizes are the same shape and go in the same location. I doubt the mirror sizes will even differ, but the base issue is a concern.

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No, I put BE specific mirrors on, but rebased because there are angle issues with RHD and LHD mirrors. The actual mirror portion is the same, but the black plastic base is angled differently.

Unfortunetaly, the switch I received was from an Impreza, and although worked, didn't fit anywhere.
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Old 01-10-2006, 11:26 AM   #7
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Oh, and the other reason I took them all apart was to put the internals(mirrors and motors) into my USDM painted outside portion so I didn't have to repaint the JDM mirrors.
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Thanks fibuz.

Bump for a BD/BG owner that will tell me that it is going to be easier than everything I've read.

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Old 01-10-2006, 08:36 PM   #9
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The answer is here for you...

Angle Options:
Don't rebase and deal with odd drivers side angle(a nice view of the side of your car)
Rebase and have a proper angle.

Wiring Options:
Run wire and be able to use folding/heating.
Don't run wire and not be able to use folding/heating.

There isn't much more to the subject. Mirror design is mirror design, regardless of BD/BG or BE/BH.

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Old 01-12-2006, 04:22 PM   #10
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When you say change the base what are you referring to? Are you classifying the mirror as having two basic parts? So there would be the base and then the mirror? Might be issues for bg/bd because the US mirrors are 1 piece.

Any thoughts?

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Old 01-12-2006, 08:06 PM   #11
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I do classify them into two parts.

The base is the part the mirror swivels on, that is to say, when you manually close the USDM, the base is the part that doesn't move but is connected to the rest of the mirror.

If you look in this picture you'll notice the black plastic pieces are what I refer to as "bases" and the painted silver pieces are the mirror housing.

Disassemble the mirror and swap "bases" (if possible), and it'll work. Disassembling the mirror is tricky business though as the mirror glass itself needs to be removed and cracks easily.




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Old 01-13-2006, 12:28 AM   #12
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Yeaahhhhh, about the two piece mirrors...ummm, don't have 'em....



hmmm...
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Old 04-03-2006, 04:22 PM   #13
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Did you ever get these installed? PICS?
I was just bidding on some of these (to the person who won the auction, I hate you. ).

Backing my car into the garage, it actually is a bit of a tight squeeze. I worry one day I might take out one of my mirrors.
The folding action is also nice when I ride across on the ferry. People walking past will have a little more room.

Besides the power fold, the auction advertises HEATED mirrors correct? I'm wondering if all the JDM folding mirrors all got the heated portion.
I wonder what model JDM legacy had these. In the couple of auctions I've seen it appears they come with the tweeters.

I think this would be awesome in the winter.

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Old 04-03-2006, 06:28 PM   #14
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I can't speak for other cars, but I already have heated mrrors, so i would assume that only a couple more wires would have to be run for the folding option on a limited model like mine. I WISH the usdm had that as an option... If you don't have heated mirrors already, you will wind up running several wires, but anything can be done if you have enough time/patience... Oh, and if you don't like the jdm mirror glass, you can have an auto glass shop cut you new mirrors...
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:26 PM   #15
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Well, it really isn't spring yet here in Central Oregon, so no, I haven't fully installed them yet.

I have however installed the drivers side mirror. The plugs are the same, just the JDM side has more wires running into it. With the driver's side installed my vision was fine out of the mirror, as I was able to work the adjustment when it was plugged in.

The install shouldn't be too tough in my estimation. I will simply cut out the USDM plug on the car end, solder in the JDM car-side plug and then run two or three extra wires to the switch. I'll then solder in the existing wires that are running to the USDM switch.

The hardest part is going to be running the wires cleanly through the door and the little "passage-way" into the car. I was worried it might really be hard, but I'm pretty sure that the way described above will work.

I don't believe that ALL of the JDM mirrors are heated. I'm pretty sure I've seen some on Ebay that were only power folding.

I should have these in within a month or two. I'll post back then.

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Old 04-04-2006, 09:39 AM   #16
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I have a set of heated power folding mirrors, and hopefully this week should be receiving a pair of bases from the '95 USDM legacy manual folding mirrors.

Once they arrive I'll pull them apart and post pics of exactly what I find, hopefully I'll be able to make them work!
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I have a set of heated power folding mirrors, and hopefully this week should be receiving a pair of bases from the '95 USDM legacy manual folding mirrors.

Once they arrive I'll pull them apart and post pics of exactly what I find, hopefully I'll be able to make them work!
At least on the drivers side you don't need USDM bases to make it work. I imagine the passengars side will be similar, just didn't test fit over there yet.

Good luck.

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I just got my mirrors installed.

Without the the re-basing of the mirrors the angles are definately wacky. The right mirror isn't so bad. The left mirror shows way too much of my car.

The actual mirrors themselves also seem to be convex mirrors. At least on the driver side I'd like to swap it with my original flat mirror.

So I have the housings and electrical all connected. Do I have to disassemble everything to correct the angle?
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Shouldnt be a problem with disassembly.

I bought BD power folding mirrors and just took the mirror parts and used my original USDM bases. Everything lines up, bolts in and works well. The left mirror is convex, but from what I've been reading, changing the mirror lens is a PITA. So I've just gotten used to it now. Try adjusting the mirror to full left. Although it still shows lots of your car, you maybe able to get away with it. Besides, you should never have anyone sit in your blind spot anyway. Especially on to your left.

My switch was also a BD switch so I originally had the same issues as Fibuz. Just took my dremel to the trim piece and made a hole large enough to accomodate the switch. Looks great as it seems factory.
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I just got my mirrors installed.

Without the the re-basing of the mirrors the angles are definately wacky. The right mirror isn't so bad. The left mirror shows way too much of my car.

The actual mirrors themselves also seem to be convex mirrors. At least on the driver side I'd like to swap it with my original flat mirror.

So I have the housings and electrical all connected. Do I have to disassemble everything to correct the angle?
I don't think there is any way to correct the angle. I've had mine installed for a month now. The left side is my "good side". The right side doesn't allow me to see the side of my car at all unless I move over towards it. However, I now have NO blind spot on that side. Between the rearview and teh sideview there is no spot that is blind, which is good despite the fact that it is a bit awkward.

As for swapping the mirror itself, that won't work. The USDM mirrors are smaller and not the same shape as the JDMs. I've thought about going to a glass shop and checking to see if they can switch out the mirror or whether it is more hassle than it is worth.

Please post if you have any updates.

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The thing that would help would be to not have "objects are closer than they appear" mirrors on both sides.
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Old 08-26-2006, 05:54 PM   #21
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I have "JDM" Ganador mirrors on my car, and as others have experienced, the passenger side mirror is OK, but the driver side mirror sucks. Even with it adjusted all the way out I'm basically looking right down the side of the car, so I have a huuuuge blind spot on the driver side. I've had them on the car for a couple years now, but I think they'll be coming off soon.

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I didn't even think of the angles when I asked to have them painted and installed.

I think I will take them apart to see what I can find. Even if I have to remove the adhesive on the mirror and build some kind of wedge to fix it.

The passenger mirror is about where I like it, just barely turned out to the point where I can't see the side of the car. I would still like to fix it so it has a better range.
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Bringing this back to life....

I picked up a set of USDM 95 BD folding mirrors to see if I could make them work with the JDM mirrors. Basically the mounting holes are close but not quite identical.

If anyone is still considering this let me know and I'll take pics of the differences.
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I've thought about going to a glass shop and checking to see if they can switch out the mirror or whether it is more hassle than it is worth..
Back in the day when I worked at a dealership I broke the glass on a mirror. My foreman at the time said I could either pay $100 for a new assembly or just head down to a glass shop and have them cut me a new one. I left the mirror with the shop and came back the next day to find they had even installed it for me. Charged me a $20 bill. Its worth a try !!
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Bringing this back from the dead....

I finally got around to messing with the USDM bases, and I have good news and bad news.

The good news is that with a little trimming the JDM BG GT-B heated power-fold mirrors will mount on the USDM 95 BD bases. Only 2 screws (out of 3) line up on each base, but they will work and the angles will be correct for LHD.

The bad news is, if you change the bases like this then the angle that the mirrors fold to when folded will be wrong. The passenger side mirror will fold in too far, and the driver's side mirror won't fold in far enough.

I pulled the folding mechanism apart on one side, it looks like it may be possible to correct the folded angle by altering the tracks on the controller board, I'm going to be looking deeper into that.

On a side note, I found that the glass is only held in by the plastic lip around the edge and a couple of pieces of double-sided tape. I grabbed a couple of expired credit cards I had lying around and used them to work the edge of the glass over the lip, then slid the card into the gap and used it to help free the tape as I gently pulled the glass off.
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