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Old 12-23-2006, 06:03 PM   #1
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Ok,I have an 89 Dodge Colt DL 4x4 that has drum brakes in the rear. I want to convert them to disc, but I have some questions.
A. I live in PA, would it be legal to do so? And where can I find this out?(asking PENNDot is a waste)
B. Should I go with a disc that is roughly the same size as the drums smaller?(8" drums)

The reason I want to convert is drums for a 4x4 Colt DL are nigh impossible to find. Every body thinks it's a VISTA , it's not, it's a wagon.
Any info would be greatly apreciated.
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Old 12-23-2006, 06:05 PM   #2
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in PA yes, legal
you might want to find a car that used the same/similar rear end setup and swap from that
i'm sure something out there used a similar setup, mopar is good like that
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Old 12-23-2006, 06:15 PM   #3
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Seems to be a lot of work to go through. Replacement drums can't be THAT hard to find...
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Old 12-23-2006, 06:25 PM   #4
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Seems to be a lot of work to go through. Replacement drums can't be THAT hard to find...
Every time we tried to get them they were VISTA drums, they are 9", mine are 8". The 4x4 wagons were only made for 2 years. I had a Plymouth version of it 12 years ago, and parts were not as bad to find, but now the dealers don't even list most of the older Colts, much less a car they only made for 2 years. I'm having a helluva time finding any place that evenacknowledges that the car was even made. I'm hoping that when I get this converted over I won't have to worry about finding parts, because I intend on keeping this one as long as I can.
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Old 12-23-2006, 06:27 PM   #5
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the plymouth drums won't work?
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Old 12-23-2006, 06:28 PM   #6
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the plymouth drums won't work?
They would work if I could get them.

My plan is to update the brakes on this thing. The front discs are a pain to replace, I have to press the hub out and then unbolt them. I'm hopeing that 89-92 Galant front struts will bolt right up(The Colt is jacked up a little due to 4x4) and then make brackets for the rear disc so it's easier to replace stuff, and it'll actually STOP when I want it to.

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Old 12-23-2006, 07:16 PM   #7
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Its defintly worth it, but it won't be a night and day difference. Rear only does a small percentage of braking (especially with front discs). Discs are better all around though especially for maintence. Did you check into any similliar (sp?) models that have rear disc? The swap is probably pretty simple, finding the donor may be hard. I am suprised you can't find parts for it, ussually cars with not many production numbers (or years) have a colt following and know all the hook ups.
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Old 12-23-2006, 08:42 PM   #8
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I am suprised you can't find parts for it, ussually cars with not many production numbers (or years) have a colt following and know all the hook ups.
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Oh, "Colt" following. Yeah, I get jokes!

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Old 12-23-2006, 08:46 PM   #9
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get some Starion/Conquest brakes?
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:34 PM   #10
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Its defintly worth it, but it won't be a night and day difference. Rear only does a small percentage of braking (especially with front discs). Discs are better all around though especially for maintence. Did you check into any similliar (sp?) models that have rear disc? The swap is probably pretty simple, finding the donor may be hard. I am suprised you can't find parts for it, ussually cars with not many production numbers (or years) have a colt following and know all the hook ups.
I looked into that and I did find a really nice site for the mid 70's Colts(gto's) and I also found a site for the 90 on up Colt/Mirages but it's always ' how do I get an EVO swap in my Mirage' kinda crap. There were some turbo models with rear disc but heck I'd be back in the same boat again.
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:35 PM   #11
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get some Starion/Conquest brakes?
That's most likely what I'll do if I can't find any thing else that will work.
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:40 PM   #12
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I know that on a Subaru, it is an easy swap. What about finding a colt with discs (if there is such a thing) and just get the hubs and backing plates (and whatever else is needed) from a junk yard. Then new discs and pads from a parts store.
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:55 PM   #13
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I know that on a Subaru, it is an easy swap. What about finding a colt with discs (if there is such a thing) and just get the hubs and backing plates (and whatever else is needed) from a junk yard. Then new discs and pads from a parts store.

Some turbo models had them but they are as hard to find as a 4x4 wagon.
Thanks for all the great input so far guys!
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