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Old 12-27-2006, 03:17 AM   #1
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well most of us would never try this, but the damage occurs when you are rev-limiting in 1st and attempt to engage 2nd before the wheels stop spinning, and in the process grind the holy hell out of 2nd. i think alot of this has to do with stock engine/trans mounts flexing under load/no load, which in turn ruins your shifting accuracy. this is due to the mechanical linkage shifter subaru utilizes. if i could show you the difference on a lift between stock and group n/cusco mounts you'd buy in a second. grabbing the driveshaft at the trans end, i can make the trans shake up and down and side to side 2-3"s with just a little tug/push! with the group n's, both hands barely move it, and with the cusco's, good luck haha. the onroad result is better then any shifter/bushing mod you've ever done for shifting. plus the car shakes at idle...
I have to definatly look at those cusco ones in the future when I get another Subie. Help keep weight from being unevenly distributed thus being able to take a corner much more correctly and precise. Just overall not having the weight of the car all over the place. How much do they cost ?
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:37 PM   #2
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has nothing to do with the weight of the car...



aaaa this is jerry....
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Old 12-27-2006, 04:30 PM   #3
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If the engine has constant movement it will slightly push the car a particular direction. Hense gravitational movement. That movement is what im talking about. I'm not talking about like the mounts will cause weight reduction. But more along the lines of sparaticle movement. With heavy gas applied and partially let off that engine will move. That movement will apply a weight causing the car to be thrown off in a corner when more or less gas may be used.


My question though is that you say it with less movement you will have more precise shift points. So this allows to go into gear after rev matching for example easier correct?

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Old 12-27-2006, 04:58 PM   #4
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wheels move the car, they are bolted to the knuckles, knuckles do not move regardless if you even have engine mounts. also the engine twists/rotates, which will not change center of gravity in a measurable amount.


one end of the shift link hooks to the trans, the other the body. the shifter attaches in the middle of this link. when the trans moves at the rear, everything does. if engine is under a load and moved one way, when you clutch and grab the next gear it will shift to center, and your shift gate will move mid-shift. ever bump into the gate going from 2nd to 3rd wot? i used to...also with mods/drag use this becomes much worse with the stock mounts. 04+ sti stock mounts are just as crappy, except the trans mount is a little beefier.
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:07 PM   #5
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wheels move the car, they are bolted to the knuckles, knuckles do not move regardless if you even have engine mounts. also the engine twists/rotates, which will not change center of gravity in a measurable amount.
But going downhill things increase(especially the motion of weight and movement). The engine twists but goes back to it's regular position. Right? It's like having a passenger go to the left and snap the body to the right as I see it.


-Btw you better come to the party...last time we were at eklutna I was in a trance from all the info coming from you. You must tell me more about subaru mechanics/build
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:12 PM   #6
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ok i see what you're saying, kinda like the trunk monkey that transfers weight at critical moments... i still can't find one of those....
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:15 PM   #7
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No my trunk monkey is for this Jerry... This is the Chevy version...but the Subie version is just as good.

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