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Old 12-27-2006, 11:20 PM   #1
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Default Hard Shifting into 1st from dead stop

I have a 2004 WRX with 5sp. manual tranny. At 53k miles, shifting into 1st is getting harder. Replaced gear oil with Redline 75W-90 NS with none of the usual improvement. Dealer says the tranny is working fine. If that's so, why didi Subaru go to double cone syncros in 1st this past year? Any solutions?
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:50 AM   #2
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Yea, I have the same issue too. I also have a short shifter which makes it even worse. I noticed if the car has been sitting in the cold it seems harder too.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:22 PM   #3
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Try Uncle Scotty's cocktail...it has worked for many. This is a common problem.
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:02 PM   #4
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Either that or GM Syncromesh.
Shifting into 1st from a slight roll for me is painless and smooth
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:44 PM   #5
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Try Uncle Scotty's cocktail...it has worked for many. This is a common problem.
What is that?
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:01 PM   #6
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2 bottles of Castrol Hypoy C 80w90 (Pepboys)
1 bottle of Redline Lightweight Shockproof (Check your local performance shop or online shop like summitracing.com)
1 bottle of Pennzoil Synchromesh (Autozone)

prepare to be impressed
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:55 PM   #7
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I started double clutching when stopping to get into 1st. But it would still get on my nerves. I installed(i had someone else install for me) STi RA's and now can shift to first on a roll, even at 10 mph. But I had never tried Uncle Scottys cocktail, some on here like it alot. Its alot cheaper than new gears.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:18 PM   #8
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Default RA Gear set

That is just what I had installed in my 04 WRX after exploding 2nd one time and 3rd one time. Love the RA Spec C gearset!!! Alot more shifting but I feel confident about my tranny now.
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:16 AM   #9
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On the uncle scotty's mix, do you have to premix all the fluids or just poor one bottle in at a time? I finally got all the ingrediants and will prolly do it this weekend. I have no idea if the guy before me ever changed it and now I have 51k on it, bought it with 48k. I have all his records from the dealership he took it to, but they stop at 35k and have nothin about tranny fluid. So how much of a difference will I notice after changing this?
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Old 01-16-2007, 02:01 PM   #10
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Add all of the shockproof, all of the synchromesh, and top up with the 80w90. Don't overfill.
Some people imply that it takes a few miles to feel the difference. My trans felt better right away.
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Old 01-16-2007, 02:01 PM   #11
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No, no need to pre-mix. For mine, it was like a new tranny. Couldn't compare. Actually made it quieter. It still occasionally grinds going into first, but only maybe 1 out of a hundred downshifts. I can live with that!
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:07 PM   #12
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coo, can't wait till try it out.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:35 PM   #13
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I can't either, getting mine done this sat, looking forward to better shifting.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:30 AM   #14
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well I did it and it works a little better. I honestly was expecting more, so maybe it could also be a combo of my b&m short shifter also.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:36 AM   #15
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well I did it and it works a little better. I honestly was expecting more, so maybe it could also be a combo of my b&m short shifter also.

hmmm I'm in the same boat as you, I also expected more and I too have the B&M shifter.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:42 AM   #16
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well I did it and it works a little better. I honestly was expecting more, so maybe it could also be a combo of my b&m short shifter also.
I have the same problem. I had a used transmission installed around Thanksgiving and that is when it started. I am pretty sure the tech at the Nissan dealership I work at used Nissan gear oil instead of Subaru gear oil. A friend adjusted my clutch and a lot of it went away. He feels with more adjusting and better gear oil it can be eliminated altogether. I want to express that this is my friends opinion. He is not a transmission tech.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:11 AM   #17
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Well I had my fluid changed to Uncle Scotty's cocktail this past weekend and while I cannot notice a HUGE difference, there are slightly better differences but then again my mechanic also told me that it would take about 100 miles for all the fluids to properly start working together. I still kinda have a problem getting into first and reverse without forcing it so hopefully by my next gas fill up, the fluids will start to sync with my gears.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:52 AM   #18
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Yea, hopefully it starts to mesh together better later.
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Old 01-24-2007, 06:10 PM   #19
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Default Redline 75W90NS boo-hiss

I too am having the 1st AND 4th gear issue with my newly added Redline 75W90NS from Motul synthetic gear oil; not happy with it at all. I'll be going to the Uncle Scotty mix soon.

Do the components have to be ordered seperately or is there a single place to order them online? Possibly a retail store on the East Coast to buy all of them at once?

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Old 01-24-2007, 06:33 PM   #20
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Google the synchromesh and it should come up with a company called midway something, that's where I got the synchromesh and amsoil
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:11 PM   #21
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After changing to Motul Gear300 75w90 I can shift into 1st almost as easily as any other manual trans I've driven. You can still tell it's a Subaru trans but it's a lot easier to shift.
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