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Old 12-29-2006, 04:14 PM   #1
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Had my brandy dandy new Fp super 16g installed, exactly 2 weeks ago at DC. I thought it odd that the car didn't make anymore power than the vf34(265whp), but the tq seemed lower. Rich said the car was showing alot of knock...Drive home, damn turbo sounds like a s/c whining when spooling. Didn't think too much of it, until yesterday evening when the car wouldn't boost at all followed shortly by some ugly sounds from under the hood. Looks like the turbo had some balancing issues and the wheels are hitting the compressor housing, literally causing it to stop spinning. So back on goes the 34 next week until I get in touch with our Fp vendor and Fp, and decide what turbo to get now. (hint: it won't be a mitsu dammit!)
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:23 PM   #2
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good luck having fp help u out quickly, they take a minumum of two weeks to get anything done, i called them because i have a fpgreen thata all broken in front of me and it also cost 350 for them to even look at it. So if u have a receipt, include it when u ship it out so that there are no questions about anything. sorry to hear that it didnt work. I know the 16g should make a more than the vf34 but it wont be a drastic change. If u wanted a nice change in hp then the 18 is what u should have gotten. i wouldnt be discouraged from the mitsu turbos many many people are running them with no problems. i would just get it from a different company, not fp as a lot of those have broken, that i know of.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:24 PM   #3
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i know the feeling. i did the evoIII 16g ftl with rich too
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:44 PM   #4
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Wow that sucks dude. Time for an SZ?
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:40 PM   #5
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I'm thinkin a pe1820(rich and joe's suggestion as well)...maybe an 18g, just not from fp. I purchased the 16g from a distributor that we buy from at Surge, and they also carry pe's. So i'm hoping they will also work with me.
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:46 PM   #6
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Had my brandy dandy new Fp super 16g installed, exactly 2 weeks ago at DC. I thought it odd that the car didn't make anymore power than the vf34(265whp), but the tq seemed lower. Rich said the car was showing alot of knock...Drive home, damn turbo sounds like a s/c whining when spooling. Didn't think too much of it, until yesterday evening when the car wouldn't boost at all followed shortly by some ugly sounds from under the hood. Looks like the turbo had some balancing issues and the wheels are hitting the compressor housing, literally causing it to stop spinning. So back on goes the 34 next week until I get in touch with our Fp vendor and Fp, and decide what turbo to get now. (hint: it won't be a mitsu dammit!)
Dude that sucks sorry to hear that.
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:55 PM   #7
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bummer man

why FP and not DB with their free rebuilds?
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:04 PM   #8
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sorry to hear... the 18g from turbochargers .com comes ported. and for 75$ more clipped good luck
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:11 PM   #9
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Interesting ... I have a FP 16G on my FXT, about 5k miles so far without a single problem ... :/
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:45 PM   #10
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Could be lots of things, the first one that comes to mind is failing to prime the turbo...that single action has led to a lot of turbo deaths. Considering how many people have this and related turbos....installer error would be the first thing I looked at.
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:51 PM   #11
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i think wagon knows what he is doing.(prt owner of a subaru performance shop!!!)
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:00 PM   #12
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Could be lots of things, the first one that comes to mind is failing to prime the turbo...that single action has led to a lot of turbo deaths. Considering how many people have this and related turbos....installer error would be the first thing I looked at.
Like he said above, he had dynocomp do the install. I doubt they would skip on primimg it. On the other hand it could have just been a sour turbo which is the way I am leaning...
Erin I hope all is made right.
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:03 PM   #13
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yeah i didn't have time to do it myself, so i let dc take care of it. i think they've done a few before. the reason i went with fp is because we get them cheap from our distributor. i will not buy another fp at this point.
anyone know when the vf43 will be available? racingfish??
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:13 PM   #14
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Had my brandy dandy new Fp super 16g installed, exactly 2 weeks ago at DC. I thought it odd that the car didn't make anymore power than the vf34(265whp), but the tq seemed lower. Rich said the car was showing alot of knock...Drive home, damn turbo sounds like a s/c whining when spooling. Didn't think too much of it, until yesterday evening when the car wouldn't boost at all followed shortly by some ugly sounds from under the hood. Looks like the turbo had some balancing issues and the wheels are hitting the compressor housing, literally causing it to stop spinning. So back on goes the 34 next week until I get in touch with our Fp vendor and Fp, and decide what turbo to get now. (hint: it won't be a mitsu dammit!)
Damn i thought was just mine turbo. When I was a "DSM Tuner" (I hate mitsubishi now ) but yeah I had a nice 400 WHP eclipse. Of course the constant problems but it was fast lol. I had a Big 16G Ported and clipped 10. The exhaust seals went out after 7 Months. I bought the Evo 3 big 16G. Bigger wheel and lighter. Big horse power gain yeah cuz the wastgate spring was @#%ed up and was boosting over 2 bars uncontrolably. Everything Mitsubishi sucks that I have owened.
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:42 PM   #15
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I thought that was your wagon parked next to my car over there today (Blue TR). Nice wagon. Sorry to hear about your news. I was getting a super tune done.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:16 PM   #16
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ah that's your car, what happened to your grille!?
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:33 PM   #17
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i think wagon knows what he is doing.(prt owner of a subaru performance shop!!!)
An owner of a subaru performance shop had another shop work on his own car?

just because an install was done at a shop doesnt mean it was done correctly...who knows, they could have had some new guy do it. or a billion other things...**** happens.

(im not saying thats what happened, but its an idea)

IMHO its a horrible reason to discount all MHI turbos, considering the track record they have.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:35 PM   #18
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ah that's your car, what happened to your grille!?
Going JDM.. Just to lazy to finish it. Left side black wheels - Right side gold....lol Lazy I am!
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:39 PM   #19
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An owner of a subaru performance shop had another shop work on his own car?

just because an install was done at a shop doesnt mean it was done correctly...who knows, they could have had some new guy do it. or a billion other things...**** happens.

(im not saying thats what happened, but its an idea)

IMHO its a horrible reason to discount all MHI turbos, considering the track record they have.


Could also been caused by detonation the motor was having. I have seen this eat up a turbo as well.
Could have been a faulty turbo. .. People also make mistakes. But given the tuner and the owner of the shop. I'd say it was not caused by them.
But at any rate **** happens.... No one was hurt. The wagon will live to fight another day.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:55 PM   #20
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An owner of a subaru performance shop had another shop work on his own car?

just because an install was done at a shop doesnt mean it was done correctly...who knows, they could have had some new guy do it. or a billion other things...**** happens.

(im not saying thats what happened, but its an idea)

IMHO its a horrible reason to discount all MHI turbos, considering the track record they have.
First, we own a retail shop...meaning we sell parts/accessories. We do not do any installs at this time, though we have a large bay and a lift on the way, so that may change. Regardless, we do all our own work/tuning, including installing a cobb block etc. in our shop sti. However, both of us also work full time jobs, and at the store and i have a family at home. I haven't had time for much of anything, the last 6 months, and I fully trust Rich and Dyno-Comp, so I decided to bring it to them and just get it done...besides we don't mind working with other local shops, and helping each other out. I took the car back to DC so I would have proof from the installer, of the damage within 2 weeks. I certainly could have just swapped my 34 back in, at home and called it a day.
And I'm not discounting mhi turbos, i said i will not purchase an fp built one again, as some of my research has shown them to have similiar issues.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:03 AM   #21
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The wheel touching the housing I don't think would be from oil starvation. Sounds like a manufacturer defect. I’m sure things will work out. If FP stands by their product.
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:31 AM   #22
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Bummer Erin, I know you were looking forward to that turbo for a long time. Hopefully the PE works out for ya!
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Old 12-30-2006, 07:00 PM   #23
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Could be lots of things, the first one that comes to mind is failing to prime the turbo...that single action has led to a lot of turbo deaths. Considering how many people have this and related turbos....installer error would be the first thing I looked at.

And all i`m saying is that the installer knew what he was doing and DC is not going to let some random guy with no knowledge of turbo swaping do a turbo swap on his first day of work
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Old 12-30-2006, 07:30 PM   #24
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there's plenty of variables...who puts fp's turbos together? i'm sure they assemble all their turbos in-house. And i know someone that used to assemble turbos for a well known company and you would be surprised at the skill level, or lack thereof, of those putting them together. At this point, depending on what Fp says I may end up with another 16G to try out.
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:00 AM   #25
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just because an install was done at a shop doesnt mean it was done correctly...who knows, they could have had some new guy do it. or a billion other things...**** happens.
It was done correctly. I know, because Todd and I installed the turbo. Just one of hundereds I've installed.
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