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Old 12-02-2006, 09:21 PM   #1
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Default 95-99 Legacy owners, need input....

...so my cousin wanted me to find him a nice deal on a quality AWD car for under $3000 because he just moved here (NJ) from CA because he's attending Princeton Univ. and is not used to driving in snow. So I just won an auction on ebay for a 1999 Subaru Legacy Outback AWD for $2900 (details below). It's got 177k highway miles on it from one original owner. I have no experience with Subaru's other than my 04 FXT so basically I'm asking if this is should be a reliable vehicle for him and what your experience / thoughts on the vehicle are. According to KBB value we got a very good price.

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Old 12-02-2006, 09:23 PM   #2
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I'd pass, 2.5 n/a and auto ftl.
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Old 12-02-2006, 09:24 PM   #3
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Headgasket....HEADGASKET! (supposedly a problem on Legacy engines)

That is all I know.
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:13 PM   #4
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I'd pass, 2.5 n/a and auto ftl.
should have mentioned, he is in no way looking for a performance vehicle to modify...just needs a safe vehicle to get him back and forth to Jiu-Jitsu class.
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:14 PM   #5
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Headgasket....HEADGASKET! (supposedly a problem on Legacy engines)

That is all I know.
anyone w/ a 95-99 legacy wanna chime in?

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Old 12-02-2006, 10:23 PM   #6
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The 2.5 is notoriously bad with headgaskets, stock or not.
The auto transmission can't be doing super at 170+k, mine started feeling odd well before 100k.

Like I said, pass. Look for a 2.2 and 5mt.
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:32 PM   #7
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I'll agree with Fibuz...

But I love that bumper :*(
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Old 12-02-2006, 11:13 PM   #8
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My mom has a '98 Outback with an EJ22 and a 4EAT. At 120k+ the car is doing good -- even though she never checks her oil or keeps track of it for changing time.
That'd be the limit of my experience with an Outback.
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Old 12-02-2006, 11:17 PM   #9
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The 98 outback does not come with an EJ22. Only the 95 outback did. And it only had a 5MT available.

Maybe the EJ25 went out and it had an EJ22 dropped in? Seems unlikely if your mom is the original owner.
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:01 AM   #10
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Other than headgasket issues (which at 177k could have already been resolved) then its a fine car.

I cant stress this enough. Invest in a good set of winter tires. They make ALL the difference
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:10 AM   #11
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It may be needing a timing belt, and/or some CV Drive shafts soon, and you should have a qualified Subaru mechanic check it out.

Other than that it should prove to be a highly reliable safe vehicle.
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Old 12-03-2006, 01:49 PM   #12
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with the high mileage, personally i wouldn't have bought it without first doing a compression test, it would tell you if the headgaskets are good or not and the condition of the engine.
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:55 PM   #13
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^^ that goes for just about any car though, not just the Legacies. yeah like everyone's saying, the Phase 1 DOHC EJ25 that's in those Outbacks is notorious for headgasket failure, but from what i understand if you have a machine shop mill the heads down so that they're perfectly flat, and run a different head gasket (which one i'm not certain unfortunately), they run just fine afterwards (and milling the heads isn't a very expensive procedure either once you have the heads off the block).

other than that, as long as the 4EAT transmission is in good shape, i would think that your cousin will love that car. it looks like it has the factory cross bars, throw on a Yakima Loadwarrior, and he'll have all the cargo carrying ability that he needs, and then some! the cargo area in the back is actually really big, especially once you fold the rear seats all the way forward. i'm 5'6", and i can lie down very comfortably in the back of my '95 wagon (which is essentially the same car as that outback but with a different suspension, and different motor) with the rear seats folded all the way forward.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:09 PM   #14
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just dropped it off at Precision Tuning to get checked out...ran pretty flawless on the way there, just a minor exhaust rattle at idle....tranny feels really good...only thing i'm worried about is that i noticed the whole front end has been painted, hopefully no frame damage....new something had to be up at this price...
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:43 PM   #15
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What do you mean the whole front end has been painted? You mean the bumper? On some 99s it came like that stock.

The exhaust rattle is just a heatshield issue. It's annoying but minor.
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:50 AM   #16
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Meh, for that price, it's not too bad, but as previously stated, the headgasket could make or break whether or not it is a good or not so good deal.

I think a 2.2L would be a better find, they're just tough. Not the quickest, but since that's not what your cousin's going for, that doesn't matter.

my $.02.

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Old 12-17-2006, 02:54 PM   #17
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Don't get that Outback.....Headgaskets, torque bind in the transmission, and axles/CV's are likely all on their way out.

I got my 1995 2.2 Legacy wagon for 2300 with only 100k on it. Look around...you are bound to find a better deal somewhere else. Try to find a manual trans too...they are a lot less of a headache in Subies.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:59 PM   #18
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What do you mean the whole front end has been painted? You mean the bumper? On some 99s it came like that stock.

The exhaust rattle is just a heatshield issue. It's annoying but minor.
whole front end = bumper/hood/fenders.
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Old 12-17-2006, 06:00 PM   #19
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Don't get that Outback.....Headgaskets, torque bind in the transmission, and axles/CV's are likely all on their way out.

I got my 1995 2.2 Legacy wagon for 2300 with only 100k on it. Look around...you are bound to find a better deal somewhere else. Try to find a manual trans too...they are a lot less of a headache in Subies.
thanks, but he doesnt drive stick.
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Old 12-17-2006, 06:02 PM   #20
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worse comes to worse i'm sure rich has a stock longblock laying around...
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:56 AM   #21
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headgaskets, cam seals, valve cover gaskets, timing belt, timing belt tensioner, water pump, possible pwr steering issues, brakes suck, crank sensors are sensitive, MAF sensor might need replacement, coil pack is pretty used up at that mileage, Make sure all the recalls are taken care of..ie; master clydr, alternator, strut gaurd etc.. OH yeah, dont forget the oh so wonderful piston slap that the phase I 2.5 motors have...

So that brings us to the AUTO Trans... flush that baby out..twice, put in some quality fluid and a bottle of transX and pray that it will hold up for you.. odds are the clutches inside are pretty worn... replace the diff. fluids as well..

Other than that... its a very solid car, with great reliabitlity!! SO ENJOY!!

I've had three of these babies!!
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Old 12-22-2006, 10:26 AM   #22
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just dropped it off at Precision Tuning to get checked out...ran pretty flawless on the way there, just a minor exhaust rattle at idle....tranny feels really good...
Mechanic's verdict ?

Yeah, there are certainly many issues that could arise on a high milage Subaru. Overall though, these are reliable and durable vehicles.
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Old 12-23-2006, 04:20 AM   #23
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The 2.5 is notoriously bad with headgaskets, stock or not.
The auto transmission can't be doing super at 170+k, mine started feeling odd well before 100k.

Like I said, pass. Look for a 2.2 and 5mt.
+1 on the odd feeling tranny im at 173xxx and it feels alittle odd, headgaskets went at 125xxx for me, plus just spent about 1100 bucks on parts and labor for a tune up and other misc things, great car over all though
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Old 12-23-2006, 12:19 PM   #24
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I have a 99 just like that one only silver and a 5m/t. It has 145K on it and runs just fine except the speedometer goes out every once in a while. Obviously you didn't have a choice of tranny, but I would hate mine if it was an a/t. It has just enough guts to be fun with a m/t and that is about it.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:09 PM   #25
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I have a 98 legacy GT and I love it. They're great cars. Bought mine from a private owner for 4,000; has over 100,000 and it still ran great till I wanted to mod the engine (of my own choice, nothing wrong with engine). Some have Headgasket issues but I haven't yet and they're easy to fix yourself. I'd get it if you wanted a reliable car. I've owned nothing but Subarus and they're great Auto's.

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